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Old 09-26-2005, 03:03 PM
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I can believe the Harry Potter mention.

I hate to be a debunker but that is plain wrong. There is zero mysticism in those books. They are extremely well written.

The most extraordinary thing about them is they feature one small boy trying thwart an evil conspiracy with nothing but his friends and his mind as no one believes him.

Sounds like something this forum should like to me.

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The adversary sits as the god of this earth. Belief in this being one way are the other has no effect on this being. By the way there are play witches and REAL WITCHES, there are Daemons and all sorts of beings that are non-human. They have never hidden themselves from humans. They let the humans interpret there actions and manifestations as they will. These have greater fish to fry.
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Old 10-29-2005, 04:56 AM
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TWO WITCHES A Modern Craft Fairy-Tale

http://witches.50webs.com/

Wiccans believe that with their knowledge of herbs witches were the ones who developed the art of cosmetics.

Question: Does putting on makeup mean one is practising the craft? Does it in effect make one a witch?
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Old 10-29-2005, 05:12 AM
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From Watchman Org.

Witchcraft / Wicca
By Rick Branch

Founder: While Gerald B. Gardner is generally credited with the modern revival of Wicca, he was neither the first to practice nor the founder of Witchcraft.

Founding Date: In 1949 Gardner published his first book, which was later followed by several other works.

Official Publication: Because of the varied nature of Wicca, there is no single official publication. However, Llewellyn's New Worlds of Mind and Spirit and Llewellyn New Times (Llewellyn Publishing) are two of the key periodicals.

Organization Structure: Each individual coven is autonomous and therefore will have their own organizational structure. Generally the high priestess is considered the leader of the Coven.

Unique Terms: Witch refers to both male and female members. Sabbats are the meetings held on festival dates while esbats are the general meetings held by local Covens.

Other Names: The Craft and The Old Religion are sometimes used to refer to the magical aspects of Wicca or to its revival of ancient non-Christian traditions. While Neo-Paganism is often associated with Wicca and the two certainly share many of the same characteristics, Neo-Paganism is, technically speaking, somewhat different in its ideology.
HISTORY
Though Witchcraft can be traced back several centuries before the coming of Christ, through the early Christian church period, the inquisition, early American colonies and finally through Spiritism of the past century, for the purpose of this Profile, the historical overview will begin with Wicca's modern revival in 1949 (The Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft, Rosemary Ellen Guiley, pp. 368-374).

Gerald Gardner published his High Magic's Aid, a novel about "The Craft," in 1949 under the pen-name, "Scire" (Drawing Down The Moon, Margot Adler, p. 61). The pen-name was used because of the current laws of the land. However, "In 1951 the Witchcraft Act of 1736, and a section of the Vagrancy Act of 1824, were replaced by the Fraudulent Medium Act. For the first time in more than 300 years in Britain, witchcraft was no longer a crime" (Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft, p. 374). Due to the changes in the legal system, Gardner was able to follow-up his novel with two other non-fiction works under his own name.

Guiley has observed, "It is difficult to say whether Gardner intended to create a new religion or whether it grew spontaneously from public interest in his writings" (Ibid.). However, Frank Smyth writes in Man, Myth and Magic, "In the absence of any evidence except hearsay, there is a strong case in favour of the suggestion that Gardner invented the cult of Wicca to satisfy his own sense of the esoteric" (Richard Cavendish, Editor, Vol. 14, p. 1869). Other authors have indicated that Gardner's revival of Witchcraft also "centered mainly around discreet sexual frolics in the nude, aided by drugs" (Encyclopedia of Occultism and Parapsychology, Leslie Shepard, Vol. 1, p. 366).

Throughout his life, Gardner was fascinated with many different aspects of the Occult. He had been a follower in varying degrees of such people and philosophies as Aleister Crowley, Ordo Templi Orientis, the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and Rosicrucianism (Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft, p. 375).

Historians have credited Doreen Valiente, a follower of Gardner who he initiated into the Craft in 1953, with "increasing the emphasis on the Goddess" (Ibid.).

While followers of Witchcraft had been in America for hundreds of years, its "greatest growth took place in the 1960s and 1970s, during a general revival of interest in Occultism" (Ibid.). Many historians of Wicca credit Raymond Buckland and his wife Rosemary with Wicca's successful spread into American society. "The Bucklands came to the U.S. in 1962" having been followers of Gardner (Encyclopedia of Occultism and Parapsychology, Leslie Shepard, Vol. 1, p. 133).

In 1973, Llewellyn Press, one of the most prolific publishers of Occult material, "sponsored a meeting of Witches in Minneapolis." The gathering, attended by Witches from seventy-three different Craft traditions, attempted to write a statement of principles. The attempt failed to satisfy all participants. The meeting was followed in 1974 by the Council of American Witches which did finally draw-up the Principles of Wiccan Belief. Later, in 1975, thirteen covens would "ratify the Covenant of the Goddess" (Drawing Down the Moon, pp. 99-103)

Rosemary Guiley explains why most modern followers prefer the term Wicca to Witchcraft. "As a religion Witchcraft often is called `Wicca,' an Old English term for `witch,' in order to counter the negative stereotype of Witches as ugly, evil, and Devil-worshipers" (Harper's Encyclopedia of Mystical and Paranormal Experience, p. 647).

Because of their wish to avoid stereotypes and the autonomous nature of Wicca, several key groups have sprung into existence over the past few decades. Some of these groups are the Gardnerian (founded by Gerald Gardner), the Alexandrian (founded by Alexander Sanders), the Dianic (based on the worship of the Greek goddess Diana), the Celtic (based on worship of ancient Celtic myths) and several others (Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft, pp. 377-379).

One other group which differs somewhat in its theological perspectives, yet is Wiccan in its overall philosophy is the School of Wicca founded by Gavin and Yvonne Frost. By some estimates, this group "may have created a hundred covens through its activities" (Drawing Down the Moon, p. 125).
DOCTRINE
As with most groups that fall under the wide umbrella term of Occultism, the theology of Wicca varies from group to group and even from coven to coven. However, the following are a few of the doctrines that most Wiccan covens will believe and practice.

1) Autonomy: "There is no central authority or liturgy; various traditions have their own rituals, philosophy and beliefs. Some have added elements from Eastern, Native American Indian, aboriginal and shamanic systems; others have injected politics into their traditions. New ritual, songs, chants and poetry are continually created" (Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft, p. 376). Raymond Buckland explains, "All religions lead in the same direction, simply taking different paths to get there. Witches feel that all should therefore be free to choose their own path" (Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft, p. 99).

2) Experience verses Dogma: Because of the Autonomy of each Coven and even to a large degree of each individual member of Wicca, the experience of the individual is of greater importance than any set of dogmatic doctrines. "Generally speaking Witches are very open-minded people, especially where religion is concerned. They have no hard and fast `Commandments,' no catechisms" (Ibid.). Adler adds, "By creating our own divinities we create mental steps for ourselves, up which we can mount toward realizing ourselves as divine. The lack of dogma in the Craft, the fact that one can worship the Goddess without believing in Her, that one can accept the Goddess as `Muse' and the Craft as a form of ancient knowledge to be tested by experience; these are precisely the things that have caused the Craft to survive, to revive, and to be re-created in this century" (Drawing Down the Moon, p. 173).

3) Rituals: These individual or Coven experiences are gained through self-designed rituals. "We are talking about the rituals that people create to get in touch with those powerful parts of themselves that cannot be experienced on a verbal level. Rituals are also created to acknowledge on this deeper level the movement of the seasons and the natural world, and to celebrate life and its processes" (Ibid., pp. 197-198).

4) Magic: Many of these rituals involve divination or magic. "In his book of shadows, Gardner listed eight ways to raise magical power (singly or in combination): (1) meditation or concentration; (2) chants, spells, and invocations; (3) trance and astral projection; (4) incense, wine and drugs; (5) dancing; (6) blood control by binding parts of the body with cords; (7) scourging (not enough to draw blood); (8) ritual sex" (Harper's Encyclopedia of Paranormal Experience, p. 649).

5) Goddess Worship: This worship of the Goddess sometimes manifests itself as the worship of "the Mother Goddess in her three aspects of Maiden, Mother, and Crone." Sometimes it is the worship of "what we potentially are" (Drawing Down the Moon, pp. 10-11, 202). In many covens the high priestess is seen as the personification of the "mother goddess who is the principal deity of witchlore" (Man, Myth and Magic, Vol. 14, p. 1866).

6) Feminism: While not all feminists are Wiccans, many find the philosophy of Wicca to be a compatible philosophy. "Women who have come to the Goddess outside the channels of Neo-Paganism and the Craft are beginning to find rituals and concepts that allow for the same idea. They are finding the Goddess within themselves and within all women. And, as might be expected, those feminists who have found joy in rituals, and who have discovered that the concept of `Goddess' feels right inside, are often drawn into the Craft" (Drawing Down the Moon, p. 205).

7) Seasonal Festivals: The worship of nature or natural order is of paramount importance. "Wicca is basically a fertility cult and its great festivals are geared to the seasons." Key dates in the Wiccan calendar would include February 2 (Candlemas), March 21 (spring equinox), April 30 (Beltane), June 22 (summer solstice), August 1 (August Eve), September 21 (autumn equinox), October 31 (Halloween), December 21 (winter solstice) (Man, Myth and Magic, Vol. 14, p. 1866).

8) Evil: Wiccan groups do not accept the existence of evil. They explain, "Wicca can be defined as a pagan mystery religion with a polarized deity and no personification of evil." In the Principles of Wiccan Beliefs is stated, "We do not accept the concept of `absolute evil,' nor do we worship any entity known as `Satan' or `The Devil' as defined by the Christian tradition" (Drawing Down the Moon, pp. 100, 103).

9) Horned God: As mentioned, some Wiccan covens worship not only a Mother Goddess, but also a masculine deity. "Many Craft traditions also worship a god, related to the ancient horned lord of animals, the god of the hunt, the god of death and lord of the forests" (Drawing Down the Moon, p. 11).
BIBLICAL RESPONSE
Because followers of Wicca do not believe the Bible to be the Word of God, it is difficult to demonstrate the error of Wicca from a biblical standpoint. However, from the Christian perspective, Wicca's theology has been condemned for centuries.

1) Witchcraft and magic (enchantments) are condemned. Lev. 19:26, 31; Deut. 18:10-11; 2 Chron. 33:6.

2) Worship of other gods (or of goddesses) is condemned. Exodus 20:3; 1 Kings 11:4-5.

3) Esteeming nature above God is condemned. Romans 1:21-25.

4) Satan and his influence of evil are real. Zech. 3:2; Matt. 4:1-11; Luke 6:45Watchman
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Old 10-31-2005, 08:22 AM
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Thanks, igwt. I want to add that the greek word for enchantment or witchcraft in the Bible is "pharmacopeia", the root of our modern word pharmaceutical. All of the old comics about the witch's brew with bats (for the rabies virus) are only a hint of how important chemical influence is to the black arts. Example: suppose a female witch wants to seduce a "man of high morals" for blackmail, etc? So she slips some yohimbe or other sexual stimulant in his wine, VOILA!! That's basically how it works.

Black witchcraft is the ORIGINAL mind-control technology. No wonder you-know-who is in bed with them.

As the Mossad has said, the CIA is obsessed with mind control. Time to move on to the oath you took, boneheads.
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:19 PM
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Bouncer: -"...greek word for enchantment or witchcraft in the Bible is "pharmacopeia", the root of our modern word pharmaceutical..."

Another interesting point is that the symbol the medical and pharmacutical industry uses...

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Wiccans are people who at heart want to be Thelemites but don't have the stomach or brains for it.

They want to be bad, but not too bad.
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A normal Wiccan family having a pleasent night on the town.

The keen observer will notice that this family has all the key ingredients necessary for today's contemporary happy pagan.

1. The Matriach, or mother figure. This old hag looks like she attended the Woodstock festival once too many times in the 60's. The former acid-dropping crone is the veritable midwife of her community.

Ask her about any obscure piece of Wiccan trivia and she will give you reem after reem of useless information trapped inside that giant grey spider web she uses for a brain.

She know her tarot. She knows her herbs. She knows her candle rituals. She knows her marijuana. She has a black cat named demon fairy. And she delights to go to Friday evening Merry Meet where she and an alotment of her other washed up hippies meet to discuss how horrible Christians are.

2. The daughter figures. The plump, young broom riders are for the environment. They save whales. They read Harry Potter and Da Vinci Code 24 hours a day. They love Charmed, and Buffy. They are experts in Advanced Teen Wicca for Beginners, and thus, they have finished every prerequisite necessary for being a Grand High Priestess of the Alexandrian Gardernarian order of Feminist Druidesss Wittans. They are for animal rights until presented with a medium rare T bone steak. They get horrible marks in school, which they all blaim on Christian racisim against the fairy folk.

3. Then there's the Father figure. This varcarious excuse for a dad has no clue what is going on, nor does he care in the slightest. He must endure living with a coven of cackling witches. All he wants to know is if the bar can tack an extended tab.

And there you have it; a fine example of today's sophisticated, advanced pagan.

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:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

You forgot Dr Phil.
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Actually, i like that symbol.

The cross is equalateral and symbolises balance and wholeness. The staff and snake symbolise wisdom. Also of course, Asklepios, "the wounded healer" who is depicted with a snake coiled around his arm.

The staff is vertical and is symbolic of the masculine and consciousness and the highest spiritual values.

That is an EXTREMELY powerful symbol.

What a shame it's in the hands of a bunch of materialist c___s. Excuse my French but that is exactly what they are...barring the new breed coming through.

I remember my first inkling that Doctors were businessman first when I worked as a theater orderly during Uni...as soon as the patient was out cold, all they EVER discussed were their share portfolio's and i'm not exaggerating for effect.
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