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Old 10-12-2005, 03:30 AM
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To ahmad:

I notice you have yet to deny that you and Fra are the same person. Well, here's your chance. In any case, you seem comfortable with revealing your true identity online, so why don't you give us a little more information. Your full name is supposedly Ahmad Nishitoba. Tell me your address and phone number too. Do realize how foolish it is to give out personal information over the internet? Do you understand how unsecure this technology is? How rampant identify theft is? I have never used my real name on a forum. Why? Is it because I am letting a Jinn control me? No, it's because I don't need any more telemarketing phone calls, spam, or junk mail than I already get. Plus, I don't want someone to look up my name and make harassing phone calls. Nor do I need some one trying to get personal information about me which could infringe on my privacy. It's just common sense really.

To Fra_nothing:

***The more you talk, the more you entrap yourself.***

That's called turn around my friend. While it may be fair game, it's really an extremely simple and common tactic used by people who's defense is beginning to fall apart. Did everybody seem the video of the new orleans cop who was caught looting in wal-mart? What did she do when she was confronted? She immediately accused the news man of being a looter, and claimed she her self was there to "watch out for looters".


***The very act of creating an 'imaginary' screenname to represent one's online presence is the very act of 'creating another self'.***

Strangely enough, I agree with you on this one. It's completely true. This is the freedom being social and anonymous gives people, which is one of the big draws of internet chat rooms and online games. You can become what you have always wanted to be. Plus, you can harass people, and never get any repercussions.

***Having thus split the personality in twain, you thus have an alter-ego. And moreover, you have the beginning of schitzophrenia.***

This, however, I disagree with. Shcizophrenia is not about multiple personalities, contrary to popular opinion. I should know, as my best friend is a schizophrenic. The whord literally means "split mind", which is where alot of the misconcpetion comes from. Having a split mind means there is a loss of connection between different pints of reference, and thus emotional and social breakdown occur. This, however, is a completely different disorder that having multiple personalities, which most commonly arises from early child hood abuse and repressed trauma. Shcizophrenia is genetic.

However, there is nothing wrong with fantasy, as long as it doesn't take the place of reality. Dressing up for a costume party, or playing a role playing game, and completely innocent and fun past times, and do not point to any sort of emotional disorder.

The real trick to mastering the social fabric of any online forum, or live chat, is to be comppetely confortable with the person you actually are, and traslate that through your anonymous screen name. I for one feel able to "win" any sort of chat room argument with a few simple techniques, because contrary to most who curse people out and fight online, I am not trying to compensate for anything lacking in my life, such as confidence. Really, the trick to defeating a live chat bully is humor, and intellegent humor. You counter his swearing insults with comedic banter. It makes you appear in control, plus, it amuses the other people in the chat room. This eventually causes the room to be on "your side" regarding the matter, and takes away the power from the bully. Recently, I have experimented trying these techniques in voice chats, the process of which I found incredibly fascinating. But I'm getting a little off topic here. We can perhaps discuss the dynamics of socializing online in another thread. If no one else starts it, I will.

***I'm far better, however, because I fully realize that I am legally insane. In fact, I kind of enjoy it.***

First off, what medications do you take, what have you been diagnosed with, and what sort of doctors have you seen? Being "legally insane" is a very technical term.

But I assume you like this idea because it makes you feel like an individual. Like you have something that other people do not. And that in turn makes you feel powerful, so you embrace any trace of "insanity" you can detect, and feel free to flaunt, and almost brag about it.

Now sir, I myself have had a bout with a mental disorder, and have been prescribed seroquel and paxil to balance myself out. In very high doses mind you. In a way, I used to feel as you did. However, I didn't go around flaunting it like you do. I did, however, for a time feel superior. Gifted. Special. This, of course, eventually came into perpective. I don't go around telling people I take anti-psychotics for an undiagnosed axiety disorder, because I want to avoid the very thing you have fallen into: dellusions of self grandeur. In anycase, I haven't suffered any symptoms of anciety for many years, and am working to get off the addictive properties of these medications. (Drug companies are evil).


***It's not really the question of 'do I have alter-egos?', no, with me the question is, How can I use my imaginary friends? How can I turn myselves into a focussed and disciplined military organization?***

You act as if this is some sort of special technique you yourself have mastered, and as if no one has thought about the very same priciples you seem to indicate. On the contrary, you be amazed at how many people secretly feel they have a mental condition, or that they are "specially gifted" in some way, or that by embracing what most people regect, and regecting what most people e,brace, you rise above the general populous. Which I suppose it true to a cvertain extent. However, rise is the wrong term. Differentiate is a better term.

Can I ask you, are you a scientologist?

Also, the notion that people with mental disorders are simply misunderstood really stems from a movement in the 70's. Now, I will not argue that mental disorders are caused by spiritual forces. I will, however, say that a mental disease is a very real thing.

Now, nobody out there is spiritually clean. We all have sin in our lives. But alot of very righteous men and women are toremented by demons. Something that the general public would refer to as a mental disorder. Individual spiritual cleanliness isn't so much realted to mental disorders as humankind's spiritual cleanliness as a whole. "The sins of the fathers shall become the sins of the sons". The scriptures do not indicate any point at which a generational curse ceases to be in effect. Unless it is broken by the power of Jesus Christ.

You do understand, though, that alot of psychology is done by very average peopel who simply want to better understand how the human brain works. Like any science, it has been manipulated, twisted, and polluted, and perhaps mainly for the benefit of the global elite. But that fact cannot discount the acceptance of some basic foundations of psychology. It probably is important not to subscribe to any one school of thought. But there are many sound and logical "modern" psychological foundations which are beneficial to study.

Though, I believe I understand where you appear to becoming from. And I think I myself "reject modern psychology" in similiar ways that you do.


In short, what I have demonstrated clearly is that not only can We defeat you inside of your own slave-box, but that We did not even exist in your box to begin with.

***It isn't safe to disturb the 0 sub-set. 0 has a bad habit of jumping around from universe to universe, from the second dimension to the tenth.***


Now, this is really just something that people who are sort of new to the whole hidden knowledge thing do. They use alot of curious sounding terms, that don't really mean much of anything, and are intended to indicate deep knowledge of the speaker because most people don't understand them, and therefore suspect there must be something more to them then meets the eye. I speak from experience on this one. And if I could go back in time, I would punch myself in the face. I suspect it's a phase you are going though. And one which will probably tone down as you learn more about what you think you know so much about.

It's fun to throw around the terms like "Holy Roman Empire, Zero subset, Ceasars Sentry, and all of that, ecspecially when you have been first exposed to these things. It's kind of like being reborn, and regrowing up. When your a teenager, you honestly think you have it all figured out. But in a few years, you realize what an ass you made of yourself. But at the time, you genuinely believe you are on top of things. It's the same way when you are "reborn" so to speak. You go through the same phases.

It's idealistic to say bi-polar doesn't exist if you don't know anybody who suffers from it. Though I think you mean that "bi-polar is actually a spiritual disorder", which I agree with. But that doesn't make it any less detremental to someone who suffers from it.

In anycase, there's alot to be discussed, I can see.

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Old 10-12-2005, 04:29 AM
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Insight said:

I notice you have yet to deny that you and Fra are the same person.
Do you realize that you will be held accountable for this accusation on the judgment day!. You accuse me of being a liar, may i ask you what proof do you have?

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Tell me your address and phone number too. Do realize how foolish it is to give out personal information over the internet?
As for me i have nothing to hide, actually with little effort i assure you that you will find this information on the web.

Do you think those in power wouldn't find you if they want? i think it is too late even to get scared!

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I have never used my real name on a forum. Why? Is it because I am letting a Jinn control me? No, it's because I don't need any more telemarketing phone calls, spam, or junk mail than I already get. Plus, I don't want someone to look up my name and make harassing phone calls.
Actually this is exactly what Satan wants from us, "to seize to exist".

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Nor do I need some one trying to get personal information about me which could infringe on my privacy. It's just common sense really.
Well who said common sense is always right!. remember that we are talking about your name (at least your first true name) here, if i ask you about your name am i infringing on your privacy?!

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You can become what you have always wanted to be. Plus, you can harass people, and never get any repercussions.
This is the whole point, you wear a mask that allows the Jinn companion to take over, how irresponsible, how sick it is!

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I should know, as my best friend is a schizophrenic. The whord literally means "split mind", which is where alot of the misconcpetion comes from. Having a split mind means there is a loss of connection between different pints of reference, and thus emotional and social breakdown occur.
Then you have a good chance to notice the Jinn's take-over in play. The multiple personalities are just a manifestation of this other entity taking over control of the body and mind, we shouldn't blame the Jinn-beings though because they can take over only if we allowed them to. Schizofrenia as you describe it still points to this take-over, because the body is designed to be controlled by the human-being, he is to lead his Jinn companion, if this companion is a demon, he will not stop untill he takes over, and when that happens the balance, the harmony between the physical body and the spiritual one is distorted, which causes all the disease, mental disorders, "loss of connection between different pints of reference" that we see.

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However, there is nothing wrong with fantasy, as long as it doesn't take the place of reality. Dressing up for a costume party, or playing a role playing game, and completely innocent and fun past times, and do not point to any sort of emotional disorder.
well, there is a fine line here between having fun, and being totally consumed in another personality, you will notice that the jinn-take over phenomena mostly take place among the actors because of their being accustomed to change their personalities. We should be very carefull in that area, isn't having fun in your real personality better! the questions are "why should i change my personality? who wants me to change my personality? what do i lose when i change my personality? " the answer is simple, it is personality theft, ironically the victim is totally accomplice!

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I did, however, for a time feel superior. Gifted. Special. This, of course, eventually came into perpective.
Now sir, this is the most clear indication of the Jinn-take-over, Satan was the first to say "I am better than he(Adam)", and the Jinns are his descendants.

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

[7:12] He said, "What prevented you from prostrating when I ordered you?" He said, "I am better than he; You created me from fire, and created him from mud."

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Old 10-12-2005, 04:36 AM
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I assure you that there is already an infinite number of Frater Nothings in existance. They all run around the world and play hop-scotch in people's brains.

These fun-loving bouncy creatures are time-worms who roll and squirm in joy all through the psychy of humanity at large.

I respect Ahmad as an individual. But All of Us assure you that he is not Frater N.
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:49 AM
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fra_nothing

From what you have said and what you're friends have said, i have NO doubt you will be getting a visit from the relevant mental health authorities combined with the Department of Homeland Security.

YOU are just the person they are keen to see locked up and medicated...because you are actually dangerous.

I had the most joyus fun watching cocky bipolar people get their just deserts as they were thrown in jail...why? Because like you, they used "mental illness" as an excuse to behave like Peter Pan and like a 2 year old do as they liked...safe and secure in their knowledge of being "mentally ill". When they were simply sent to maximum security remand centers i laughed my head off as sudden "normality" set in. But to late, they came back a little less "mad".

There are "real" people who have mental illness's. They actively seek out medication and alternative therapies to regain a sense of balance. They are the people I used to love to help.

You are simply a drugged up little "tweaker" who loves his Amphetamine. You love getting high and running amock dont you? Do you work? NO...coz you deal drugs to support yourself dont you? All the while professing to be a "good Christian".

If you think people ar'nt monitoring these forums EXACTLY for people like you and La Domino who I warned via PM...you are kidding yourself. It will not be the "Illuminati" who visits you...it will simply be people doing a public service and removing an idiot from society till he either buckles under medication administered via I.M monthly Depot injection or seeks out therapy.

Either way...the desire for the "high" of the bipolar person is a defence from the terror, the void, of complete loneliness.

And that is what you fear the most and you will either be dead or completely insane and walking with your arms hanging by your side with drool spilling down their front.

Either that or you will be aquainted with L.A's psuedo psychiatric facility the L.A County Jail...make you bend over and grab you're ankles boy. Enjoy.
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:54 AM
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Hahaha! You moron! I AM Peter Pan!

Don't you get it? WE WERE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE PETER PAN!

You lost your childhood, and 'the exposure of innocence is a lie.'

And again it is written, 'unless ye become as little children, ye shall in no wise see the Kingdom of Heaven.'
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Old 10-12-2005, 05:01 AM
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I AM DON QUIXOTE DE LA MANCHA!

To dream the impossible dream
To fight the unbeatable foe
To bear with unbearable sorrow
To run where the brave dare not go
To right the unrightable wrong
To love pure and chaste from afar
To try when your arms are too weary
To reach the unreachable star

This is my quest
To follow that star
No matter how hopeless
No matter how far

To fight for the right
Without question or pause
To be willing to march into Hell
For a heavenly cause

And I know if I'll only be true
To this glorious quest
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm
When I'm laid to my rest

And the world will be better for this
That one man, scorned and covered with scars
Still strove with his last ounce of courage
To reach the unreachable star
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Old 10-12-2005, 06:20 AM
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From what you have said and what you're friends have said, i have NO doubt you will be getting a visit from the relevant mental health authorities combined with the Department of Homeland Security.

YOU are just the person they are keen to see locked up and medicated...because you are actually dangerous.

I had the most joyus fun watching cocky bipolar people get their just deserts as they were thrown in jail...why? Because like you, they used "mental illness" as an excuse to behave like Peter Pan and like a 2 year old do as they liked...safe and secure in their knowledge of being "mentally ill". When they were simply sent to maximum security remand centers i laughed my head off as sudden "normality" set in. But to late, they came back a little less "mad".

There are "real" people who have mental illness's. They actively seek out medication and alternative therapies to regain a sense of balance. They are the people I used to love to help.

You are simply a drugged up little "tweaker" who loves his Amphetamine. You love getting high and running amock dont you? Do you work? NO...coz you deal drugs to support yourself dont you? All the while professing to be a "good Christian".

If you think people ar'nt monitoring these forums EXACTLY for people like you and La Domino who I warned via PM...you are kidding yourself. It will not be the "Illuminati" who visits you...it will simply be people doing a public service and removing an idiot from society till he either buckles under medication administered via I.M monthly Depot injection or seeks out therapy.

Either way...the desire for the "high" of the bipolar person is a defence from the terror, the void, of complete loneliness.

And that is what you fear the most and you will either be dead or completely insane and walking with your arms hanging by your side with drool spilling down their front.

Either that or you will be aquainted with L.A's psuedo psychiatric facility the L.A County Jail...make you bend over and grab you're ankles boy. Enjoy.
Do you really believe what you are saying here?

<<<If you think people ar'nt monitoring these forums EXACTLY for people like you and La Domino who I warned via PM...you are kidding yourself.>>>
A little paranoid?

Have you any idea how uncomfortable this place is?
You criticized the hell out of him but failed to explain his errors. If you are so certain of yourself... use this knowledge constructively.



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Old 10-12-2005, 07:56 AM
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He's a speed freak and probably has a needle hanging out of his arm as I write!!
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Old 10-12-2005, 07:57 AM
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Ahmad,

You talk way too much about NOTHING.

I'm sure you are FRA-NOTHING!!!
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Old 10-12-2005, 08:15 AM
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Do you really believe what you are saying here?

<<<If you think people ar'nt monitoring these forums EXACTLY for people like you and La Domino who I warned via PM...you are kidding yourself.>>>
A little paranoid?

Have you any idea how uncomfortable this place is?
You criticized the hell out of him but failed to explain his errors. If you are so certain of yourself... use this knowledge constructively.



"You are not alone" holds new meaning for me now.
Yes, i know exactly what i'm saying.

Whole departments monoitor forums.

fra_nothing and his buddies with such pearlers as..."Warriors Of God" thread where it was made known "we" were not proactive enough and it was made plain that "direct action" was required against the Illuminati/Government etc...

I tell ya right now...talk like this when forums are being harrassed and moderators having pressure put on them to stifle "anti-semetic" talk as well as forums simply "disapearing" into thin air when they are put under pressure because of certain posts mean Henry had better keep this one clean.

It wont be my foul language that is the problem here but OBVIOUSLY nutter posters who may well be here on orders as the clamps come down and someone with a modicum of success on the net (Makow) gets a serve like Chussadovsky did over on his own forum. Or worse.

When i was "visited" by the "State Security Unit" they were simply interested in if i was a "nutter". Suitably satisfied i was not they left.

I think you might want to re-read that nutters post's. If you still agree with him...well good luck to you.

If this place is'nt cleaned up i'll be leaving permenantly.

You can all enjoy you're new constructive posters.

In fact...c ya.
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