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Old 10-25-2005, 09:46 PM
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* POLL What part of the proposed terror laws do you most dislike?

The federal government is treating voters and the parliament with contempt by introducing its anti-terror legislation on Melbourne Cup day, shadow attorney-general Nicola Roxon said today.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/were-calling-howards-bluff/2005/10/26/1130239551689.html

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Old 10-25-2005, 10:04 PM
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The federal government is treating voters and the parliament with contempt by introducing its anti-terror legislation on Melbourne Cup day, shadow attorney-general Nicola Roxon said today.
Well fancy that?

The desperation is telling. They are really desperate and i'd love to know why 'Winston' is in such a hurry. Have the masters called and demanded to know why it's still not safe for the Elite kiddie fiddlers et al to "come on down"?

The bird flu and this has really got me...the pathetic and ridiculous nature of it...the complete "reaching" bordering on the absurd. Whats up?

Something in the air? Soon?

Well, the good thing about it all is this. I feel VERY confident that when push comes to shove, the cliched Oz spirit of anti-authority, Ned Kelly, Chopper Read, Eureka Stockade will show itself once again...if the footies not on.

Once all this TALK is actually transformed into concrete reality and Ozzie slobs are being asked for their "papers" and their cars searched at road blocks we will see how it all pans out.

The NWO masters just do not understand the Oz nature if they think we will take it. We are not Americans...even if deep down we want to be.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:10 PM
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People are more concerned with the IR changes than any thing else $$$...
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Old 10-26-2005, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: 'We're calling Howard's bluff'

I'm not - I'm vehemently opposed to both pieces of legislation. The absolute gall of Howard to say 'trust me' in relation to how the laws will be used, is amazing.

Lets look at his record of trust, shall we:

- A GST? Never, ever.
- that was a non-core promise
- there were children thrown overboard
- there were weapons of mass destruction
- parliamentary codes of conduct being breached
etc

Nice for him to say 'if you don;t like the offer, get another job'. Once he's gone, he never has to work another day in his life - super he can get at immediately, tax-payer funded office, staff, and allowance for life.

I detest him, and practically everyone else in government who has not stood up and said anything against both the IR legislation, as well as the anti-terror stuff.

And the apathy of the general public about this stuff - it beggars belief!
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Old 10-26-2005, 02:00 PM
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Default France plans new anti-terror law

The French government has backed a draft anti-terror bill proposing more powers to track suspects.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4379926.stm
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Old 11-29-2005, 07:42 PM
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Default Law Society criticises NSW anti-terrorism bill

Last Update: Wednesday, November 30, 2005.

The New South Wales Law Society says while the State Government has watered down aspects of the Howard Government's counter-terrorism laws, the state-based bill is fundamentally flawed.

State MPs will debate the bill today, which allows the police to detain terrorist suspects for weeks at a time without charge.

Law Society president John McIntyre says while the New South Wales bill allows suspects to go to the Supreme Court and argue against their case, the normal rules of evidence do not apply and people can be held on the basis of hearsay and and suspicion.

"Therefore it's likely that applications could be made and granted on the basis of heresy, supposition, suspicion, evidence of that nature," he said.

He says while the Government claims the bill allows for people to be detained for up to 14 days without charge, there is a loophole that could see them held longer.

"Our analysis of this legislation suggests that under section 26k there is an opportunity for people to be subjected to further orders and they may effectively be detained for multiple periods of time and which could ultimately result in a very lengthy period of detention," he said.

Unlike the federal laws, it is not an offence for a suspect to tell a family member or friend that they are being detained.

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Old 11-29-2005, 08:07 PM
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By Emma Rodgers. Posted: Wednesday, November 30 2005 .



Cartoonist Michael Leunig says he does not believe any reassurances the Federal Government may give over the prosecution of artists under the sedition clause included in the new anti-terrorism bill.

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