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Old 10-15-2005, 11:48 PM
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A Closer Look
October 10, 2005

Hour 1 and 2::
Michael Corbin interviews Paul David Collins and Phillip Collins. The
focus of the program provides further research from October 3, 2005,
and a disturbing relationship with the Minuteman Project leadership
and neo-Nazi factions. The Collins brothers discuss John Tanton, a
major benefactor of anti-illegal immigration national groups.

http://www.4acloserlook.com/realaudio/101005a-collins.ram
http://www.4acloserlook.com/realaudio/101005b-collins.ram

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Old 10-16-2005, 12:59 AM
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what is this bullshit
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Old 10-16-2005, 06:07 AM
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Its about the minutemen being controlled by the globalists. Very interesting information!



Manufactured race war anyone?
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Old 10-16-2005, 09:33 AM
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Agent Orange: You are right on the mark. The co-opting of the Minute Men movement by white supremacists represents another step in the elite's project of promulgating racial dialetics If they can radicalize the Minute Men, then they can pit them against the Aztlan movement. Such a manufactured race war would provide the ruling class with a readily exploitable threat and a pretext for the implementation of police state policies.

Thumper: Sorry you don't like it. However, it is a reality. It is very important for humanity to start getting over its hang-ups. Racism is one of them. We have a common enemy and they don't owe their allegiance to any particular ethnicity. They wish to subjugate all of us. The new world order is an equal opportunity oppressor.
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Old 10-16-2005, 09:51 AM
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w102pdc

Good on you for posting the links. Very informative.
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Old 10-16-2005, 12:25 PM
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the enemy is globalist sponsored illegal immigration, not 'racism'. Even if the minutemen weren't co-oped by 'nazis' there's no way the US could survive such a balkanizing effect of tens of millions of people speaking another language (not just spanish).

you've just played into the hands of the mainstream media who themselves call the minutement neo nazis.

your post deals at the very very surface of the problem. By subscribing into your 'anti-discrimination' message, the western nations effectively resign their right to control their borders, and self determination for their people. it reminds me of when liberal arts types say 'don't hate' or 'don't discriminate' (i.e. don't have a value system) when they shove a new perverse idea of theirs.

balkanization, multi-cult, mass migration, ethnic cleansing, and lowering the living standard are all goals of the NWO.

the pillars of human identity against one worldism tyrany in the exclusive forms of race, nation, family, and religion are indeed 'hang ups'. As are heterosexuality, and belief in one God.

A volatile reaction against mass foreign immigration is to be expected, except you're calling that the 'disease' when in fact it's the auto-immune response.

Treat the real disease (Globalist sponsored illegal immigration), not the symptom.
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Old 10-16-2005, 08:49 PM
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Evidently, you did not even listen to the interview. If you had, you would have taken note of the historical precedents concerning racial dialetics, which further the globalist agenda.

"the enemy is globalist sponsored illegal immigration, not 'racism'."

Wrong. Racism is globalist-sponsored because it facilitates divisive identity politics. Yes, illegal immigration is a problem. However, a racist backlash against it is NOT the solution. Racism only further confuses the issue of border integrity and national sovereignty.

"A volatile reaction against mass foreign immigration is to be expected, except you're calling that the 'disease' when in fact it's the auto-immune response."

Wrong. Expected or unexpected, a volatile reactions is neither acceptable nor helpful. Responding with hate is just as bad as allowing the problem to persist.

"the pillars of human identity against one worldism tyrany in the exclusive forms of race, nation, family, and religion are indeed 'hang ups'."

The contention that human identity is derived from race is inherently collectivistic. It presupposes that one derives their intrinsic value from some ethnic group instead of themselves. This is not antithetical to "one worldism." In fact, it synchronizes rather comfortably with the new world order's neo-tribalism.

As for nation, religion, and family, these only define one's personal identity to certain extent. Moreover, while they are valid institutions, none of them are designed to justify irrational hatred towards others.

"it reminds me of when liberal arts types say 'don't hate' or 'don't discriminate' (i.e. don't have a value system) when they shove a new perverse idea of theirs."

To be sure, some worthwhile value systems prescripe some hatred, but only of evil principles and precepts. The Devil is an equal opportunity employer and his agents are of all races, colors, and creeds. To attempt to relocate evil within a single ethnicity is to presuppose that evil has an exclusively genetic (and, by extension, material) cause. This is materialism of the most depraved sort. It ignores the spiritual origin of man's woes and attempts to restrict the battle between good and evil to this ontological plane. Hence, we have the numerous seek and destroy campaigns of this century (the war on drugs, the war on guns, the war on class distinctions, etc.).

"Treat the real disease (Globalist sponsored illegal immigration), not the symptom."

You do not specify any real "treatment." Yet, you seem very comfortable with border violence and racism. If these are your "treatments," then don't expect the problem to go away. Instead, you are providing the power elite with a politically expedient racial dialectic. Such racial dialectics effectively camouflaged the conspiracy behind the OKC bombing.

The real treatment is immigration policy reform, not anti-immigration racism.

You are entitled to your views. However, I fail to see how they help to solve the problem.
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:57 PM
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You do not specify any real "treatment." Yet, you seem very comfortable with border violence and racism. If these are your "treatments," then don't expect the problem to go away. Instead, you are providing the power elite with a politically expedient racial dialectic. Such racial dialectics effectively camouflaged the conspiracy behind the OKC bombing.
Why don't you talk about the fact that illegal immigrants make up 30 percent of the population in LA county prisons? How about the true border violence that is los zetas gangs killing people on both sides of the border, which according to prisonplanet have amounted to over 600 deaths IN ONE MONTH. What imaginary violence have the minutemen ever perpetuated?

Crying about racism is a total Red Herring in light of an ILLEGAL INVASION OF TENS OF MILLIONS.

The treatment is simple. Support the minutemen, deport the illegals, and stop parroting the whorish corporate media.
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peace all,

This is a typical Satanic scenario, setting the two extremes on a collision course, the first extreme is the liberals (globalists) who encourage open society, and the second is the conservatives who are too stuck in their race/dogma to see the truth.

The truth is neither the liberals nor the conservatives are right, if we really worship the one god, we should be balanced and avoid these extremes of Satan.
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:49 PM
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"Support the minutemen, deport the illegals, and stop parroting the whorish corporate media."

Again, you have not listened to the interview. The informaion presented in it is not something you will hear on CNN or MSNBC. I am not parroting the "whorish corporate media."

I wish I could support the Minute Men. The cause initially appeared genuine and, no doubt, many of the lower level adherents are genuine. However, men like Glenn Spencer have been tied with individuals like John Tanton, a major proponent of population control. Spencer has absolutely no qualms with Tanton's Malthusian rhetoric.

Tanton was a member of Zero Population Growth, an organization devoted to global depopulation efforts. ZPG was founded by Paul Ehrlich, who peddles phony eschatological claims of an impending Malthusian catastrophe. Ehrlich's wife is also a member of the Club of Rome, another elite machination.

Tanton also acted as president of Michigan's Planned Parenthood, which is historically connected with the eugenics movement. With the continuity of the population control and eugenic themes running through Tanton's work, I think it becomes clear what his true agenda concerning illegal immigration is.

Tanton's network of organizations are gradually subsuming the Minute Men movement. Thus, what began as a genuine cause in maintaining America's border integrity is in danger of being perverted.

It would be incredibly helpful if Jim Gilchrist would come forward and denounce such individuals. Why he hasn't is beyond me. Meanwhile, the Minute Men continues to follow a dangerous trajectory.

"Crying about racism is a total Red Herring in light of an ILLEGAL INVASION OF TENS OF MILLIONS."

To assert that racism is a "Red Herring" is to overlook not only a legitimate problem, but elite criminality as well. The power elite have been employing racial dialectics for years. To assume that the Minute Men movement is immune to such subversion is the height of hubris.

"What imaginary violence have the minutemen ever perpetuated?"

I never asserted that they were guilty of any violence. Evidently, in addition to not listening to the interview, you also did not read my post. No, the Minute Men have not perpetrated any acts of violence. Let's hope it stays that way. However, the potential for the Minute Men being radicalized is real. White supremacists are historically militant individuals. If they successfully co-opt the Minute Men, then the organization could develop a paramilitary auxillary.

"How about the true border violence that is los zetas gangs killing people on both sides of the border, which according to prisonplanet have amounted to over 600 deaths IN ONE MONTH."

You're only making my argument. These gangs and other Chicano supremacists are being financed by the Ford Foundation and other elite organs. If the Minute Men are radicalized, then they could be pitted against the radical Marxist Chicano movements. This would facilitate a politically expedient racial dialectic.

You don't have to take my word for it. Do the research for yourself.
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