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Old 09-22-2005, 03:59 PM
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Old 09-22-2005, 04:05 PM
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WTH????

So, what's wrong with excess estrogen, Thumper?

If I'm menopausal, and I am, so beware!!

shouldn't soy then be beneficial for me?

THEY say menopausal symptoms are caused due to lack of estrogen.
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Old 09-22-2005, 06:11 PM
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WTH????

So, what's wrong with excess estrogen, Thumper?

If I'm menopausal, and I am, so beware!!

shouldn't soy then be beneficial for me?

THEY say menopausal symptoms are caused due to lack of estrogen.
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!![/quote]
BlueAngel, I hope you don’t mind, but this kind of stuff is interesting enough that it deserves its own “thread”.
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
I'm here, JIMBO, alive, walking this planet, a survivor of MKULTRA/Project Monarch and for that I am THANKFUL!!!
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
Mind Control is a SUBJECT of great concern to me because it involves more than just "programming" a slave for some future mission.
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
When one thinks of mind control they usually equate it to a Manchurian Candidate. That does not even cover the spectrum of what is involved in their programs; particuarly Project Monarch, which is trauma-based.
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
I know that government conspiracies are real. I know that our government is corrupt. Both parties. So, if that was their goal for my future, I have no allegiance to either.
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
I have allegiance to my country. The America that should be!
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BlueAngel wrote:
It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
Maybe people do lie to themselves to mask the reality that they lived, but as far as mind control victims are concerned most times the reality that they lived is so horrific that blocking it was the only way they survived.
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
THEY DO NOT REMEMBER and, therefore, are not lying to themselves or anyone else. They can have dozens of alters. Psychological warfare ensues.
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
Coupled with hypnosis, electricshock, drugs, sleep, water, food, sensory deprivation, etc., etc., etc., false memories implanted doesn't really allow all of the REAL memories and the entire picture to evolve once a victim/survivor is triggered into remembering their past abuse and incarceration in one of these programs.
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
Trauma too horrible for the mind to endure is FORGOTTEN. Compartmentalized. This, the only way for mind control victims to survive the abuse. The brain's self-defense.
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
I was replying to NOMAD about the "Whiz Kid" and just making some general remarks as to memories I have as a child that seemed to parallel his experience. I was interested in his story and the fact that he was institutionalized because he was a threat to THEM and not himself.
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
I'd ultimately LOVE to interview him.
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BlueAngel wrote:
It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
JIMBO, I'm 48 years old...soon to be 49. I only uncovered this past life of mine about four years ago.
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BlueAngel wrote:
It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
That, my friend, is the essence and depth of mind control. The victim is unaware for decades that they were sujected to such vicious manipulation, control and abuse.
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
When the memories surface, the question remains for those who are alive and were not killed or snuffed out in porn films. WHY?
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
I admire Henry's work. And, by the way, I say "Oh, Henry," like the candy bar.
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
I know that there are many more like him who have been working behind the scenes for decades to uncover this CULT.
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I am open to feedback and any answers you may have are certainly welcome!!
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InPeace,
BlueAngel
Wow,... that's pretty wild. I have read about
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MKULTRA before, sometimes articles written by survivors like yourself, but I never thought I was going to meet anyone that had gone through like what you just described. A lot of bizarre stuff happening in our world. I’m speechless,…
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
I am kind of tired now, but perhaps another time I’ll have the mental energy to continue…
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
Here are some links you might find interesting.
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How to Block Microwave Mind-Programming Signals
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/blockingmwsignals8may03.shtml
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It's all in my head, as I was told!!!
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Old 09-22-2005, 06:12 PM
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Yes, as I've stated, the information I have is all in my head from my incarceration in MKULTRA/Project Monarch.
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Old 09-22-2005, 06:53 PM
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WTH????

So, what's wrong with excess estrogen, Thumper?

If I'm menopausal, and I am, so beware!!

shouldn't soy then be beneficial for me?

THEY say menopausal symptoms are caused due to lack of estrogen.
If I'm menopausal, and I am, so beware!!
is this why you attack?
If I'm menopausal, and I am, so beware!!
If I'm menopausal, and I am, so beware!!

I'm menopausal, and I am, so beware!!
menopausal, and I am, so beware!!
so beware!!
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Old 09-22-2005, 07:30 PM
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I don't know, Thumper, what is the problem with soy bean producing excess estrogen?

Should I search the web for resources or might you have some answers?

Although I am menopausal, I do not take HRT. As we know, the FDA warned about the high risk of HRT causing cancer and many physicians who had previously prescribed HRT for their patients; advised them to discontinue use.

At present, I believe HRT is still being presribed as if the warning was not issued at all.

An alternative choice would be a natural remedy over the counter, black cohash and/or soy.

My body is going through changes due to menopause and the loss of hormones; and I have tried black cohash/soy, but they do not agree with me.

Seems there isn't a drug they can produce that can cure our ill without killing us in the process.
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Old 09-22-2005, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: so what's the story about soy bean producing excess estrogen in the body?

duh, it's harmful for us men folk, woman. I avoid that shit like the plague. :-P
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duh, it's harmful for us men folk, woman. I avoid that shit like the plague. :-P
Not talking about men folk only are we??
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:25 PM
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Is EXCESS estrogen a problem for females?
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