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Old 09-25-2007, 07:11 AM
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Bush Self-Pardoning War Crimes (For His Entire Administration) - ??? - :-o :-o :-o


Honorable Congressman Ron Paul

Bush Self-Pardoning War Crimes ???
Bush Self-Pardoning War Crimes (For His Entire Administration)
Buried deep inside this legislation is a provision that will pardon President Bush and all the members of his administration of any possible crimes connected with the torture and mistreatment of detainees dated all the way back to September 11, 2001.


CNN The Cafferty File – Situation Room

CNN – Situation Room – Transcripts
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0609/27/sitroom.02.html

Let's check in with Jack Cafferty right now.

Jack, I'm beginning to think maybe I shouldn't have done these interviews yesterday and today. Should I feel guilty?

JACK CAFFERTY, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, I don't know, Wolf. If war breaks out between Pakistan and Afghanistan, you know, you may have some guys coming by and knocking on your door asking for transcripts.

Ordinarily, we don't do a question two days in a row, but this is important enough to be an exception. The House just passed President Bush's bill to redefine the treatment of detainees , and the Senate's expected to do the same thing tomorrow. Buried deep inside this legislation is a provision that will pardon President Bush and all the members of his administration of any possible crimes connected with the torture and mistreatment of detainees dated all the way back to September 11, 2001.

At least President Nixon had Gerald Ford to do his dirty work. President Bush is trying to pardon himself.

Here's the deal.

Under the War Crimes Act, violations of the Geneva Conventions are felonies . In some cases, punishable by death .

When the Supreme Court ruled the Geneva Conventions applied to al Qaeda and Taliban detainees, President Bush and his boys were suddenly in big trouble. They had been working these prisoners over pretty good.

In an effort to avoid possible prosecution, they're trying to cram this bill through Congress before the end of the week when Congress adjourns. The reason there's such a rush to do this, if the Democrats get control of the House in November, well, this kind of legislation probably wouldn't pass.

You want to know the real disgrace of what these people are about to do or are in the process of doing? Senator Bill Frist and Congressman Dennis Hastert and their Republican stooges apparently don't see anything wrong with this.

I really do wonder sometimes what we're becoming in this country.

The question is this: Should Congress pass a bill giving retroactive immunity to President Bush for possible war crimes ?

E-mail your thoughts to CaffertyFile@CNN.com or go to CNN.com/CaffertyFile -- Wolf.

BLITZER: Jack, thank you.

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Should Bush Be Allowed To Pardon Himself & His Cronies?
“Should Congress pass a bill giving retroactive immunity to President Bush for possible war crimes?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBUkxvfL_eE

Should Congress pass a bill giving retroactive immunity to President Bush for possible war crimes?

Answer: Absolutely NOT !!! That decision should be left to “President Ron Paul – 2008” .

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Jimbo said:

"In an effort to avoid possible prosecution, they're trying to cram this bill through Congress before the end of the week when Congress adjourns. The reason there's such a rush to do this, if the Democrats get control of the House in November, well, this kind of legislation probably wouldn't pass."

You're theory that there is a RUSH to push this legislation through NOW because the Democrats might have control of the HOUSE in November, 2008 doesn't hold water.

The Democrats are in control of Congress as we speak.

If you're basing your theory of Democrats controlling the House in November, 2008 if Ron Paul is elected President, this theory doesn't hold water either.

Ron Paul is not a Democrat.

If this bill is passed before the next Presidential election, we can thank all of Congress for that.

Democrats and Republicans alike.

Most of them work for the same masters.

I surmise you are suggesting that if Ron Paul were elected President, he would VETO this legislation.

They're not stupid.

The reason the legislation is being introduced now.

What?

Do you think they'd just sit on her buttocks until the next President is sworn into office?

Doesn't matter anyway.

Like I said, whomever is sworn in works for the same masters.

What is Ron Paul's opinion on the matter?

Who in the CONGRESS has broached the subject of prosecuting Bush and his cronies for war crimes?

Whether or not this falls under Executive Privilege, I'm not sure, but Clinton pardoned everyone he ever knew before he left office.

Bush can do the same.
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:17 PM
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If you look at the date of the transcript you’d realize that this is old news. This took place about a year ago. However, it was posted on the RENSE site, I guess as a “reminder” of the ridiculous things this clan is capable of passing through Congress. What a team! Two angles, one goal. Anyway, my point is that, if for any miraculous occurrence they happened to need pardoning for alleged war crimes, their only hope would be the benevolence of the hand of true freedom. Ron Paul would be representative of a government completely different from what we’ve had in recent times & for quite some time. His opinion would matter, since if we left it to the American people, the outcome could be very unforgiving.
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:38 PM
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On September 27, 2006 when this was reported, Republicans were in charge of Congress.

Shortly thereafter Democrats took control.

So, what happened to the legislation?

Anyone follow-up on this OLD NEWS?

You say that if the decision to prosecute Bush and his cronies were left to the American people the outcome would be very unforgiving and better left in the hands of Ron Paul???

Why?

Would he be more forgiving than the American people?

The American people are not involved in the decision making process.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:43 PM
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Obviously not.

Ron Paul claims he wants to bring government back to the way it was (theoretically) intended to be. Where the power lies in the people, you know “by the people & for the people”, & where the government’s job is to make sure that the people’s rights are protected & not infringed upon, as well as following the Constitution. Our blueprint for fairness, equality, liberty, & the pursuit of happiness – A beautiful concept.

In recent videos on the Internet you can see where they were arresting people, mostly women, for reading the Constitution, in Washington, DC. When asked on camera, the cops wouldn’t say what the charges were, they wouldn’t even speak or say anything. Complete silence. Nobody knew what was going on. And then they have the audacity to claim at the UN, the global altar of world government for “mass” consumption, that we need to “spread Freedom” ??? What ??? – coming from the masters of falsehood & doublespeak, of lies & deception, hypocrisy & human indignation.

I don’t know what Ron Paul would do if faced w/ the decision to “pardon” war-crime criminals. He would probably stick w/ the Constitution & let that be the measuring stick by which the criminals would be judged. We probably wouldn’t go the ICC (International Criminal Court), since this institution is part of their global scheme. The Nazis got out of control (out of the control of the “secret global order”, their “global masters”) because of Hitler, & Hitler made an attempt on the “Pope” (you’d probably wonder why), w/o success. You might be aware of this I don’t know. The reason Nazi criminals were convicted, I think it was for more of a show than anything else. To make us “believe” that “justice” does exist. The real criminals were given new identities & exiled around the world. Many of them ended up in South America, & I am sure many other places around the world. Their top scientists & ideologues were absorbed by our institutions & also given new identities. That’s how they propelled the space program. What a scam. That’s why there is no Freedom. We were never Free. We were led to believe, all along, we were the “Free World”, when in fact they were just using us to colonize the world, to build the infrastructures, the rail-roads, the cities, to drop the communication lines, & to develop the industries & the technologies we have today.

Once they figured how to do all that, & to make it cheap, then they figured they can make it “even cheaper” in the “global village”. Where do you think that phrase came from. But for a “global village” to come into being, they first have to wipe out the “prosperity” we achieved. For the “global economy” to take hold they have to lower the standard of living of “prosperous” nations like the US, so that they can have their “dream”, “cheap labor” across the world. That’s why they want to let the Mexicans in, export all of our jobs out of the country, bring in “dirt cheap” H1-B visa workers from the poorest nations across the world, devalue the dollar, devalue the housing market (the next great robbery around the corner), destroy social security, destroy everyone’s pensions, & destroy everything along their path. For their “New World” to come into being, they have to destroy the “this world”, our world. For “sovereign & independent” nations to “stop being”, they have to destroy them. That’s why the war on terror has no end in sight. They want to get them all.

Wealth is not destroyed, but merely transferred (electronically across the world & into their Swiss Bank accounts), away from the pockets of those who lost it & into their “vaults”. Brilliant.

That’s why they want to wipe us out. By now, too many people know what’s going on.
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How Can The U.S Morally & Legally “False Flag” Itself ??? - :-o :-o :-o

How Can The U.S Morally & Legally “False Flag” Itself ???

I don’t know the answer to this question, but perhaps w/ enough, reliable, researched, & corroborated information we can find out,…

By which mechanisms (whether legal or secret) can any U.S. high government official order a “False Flag” attack against its own citizens & infrastructure in order to mock, & thus fake, a foreign attack against the U.S. by an enemy outside of our borders & presumably from another country – & then use it as a justification for War? How can this be possible? And if so, who has the power to approve & order the execution of such an aggressive military exercise? And how, can this power be “eternally” removed, by the citizenry of the United States of America, & so that it never happens again?

A Blueprint For A “New Pearl Harbor” – 1998 – “A Catastrophic & Transformative Event” that can be used to “undermine” America’s fundamental sense of security – By design as of 1998.

Zelikow –


Excerpt Transcript – From the first half of the Video.


Phillip Zelikow in his capacity as the Staff Director for the Kane/Hamilton 911 Commission, that delivered its report in July, of 2004, is a very important figure, & he is one of the key operatives in the cover-up of the 911 terrorist attacks.

The guy is clearly an academic closely related to the Bush administration, close friend of Condoleezza Rice, & he had written about the so called Catastrophic Terrorism, before 911. And yeah, he was in the perfect position to see how much hate could be made out of this event. He had already talked about “Catastrophic Terrorism” & in a sense knew how it could be used. He was certainly the perfect choice for helping to write the report, because this is a guy that could see how to manipulate it, in terms of peoples civil liberties, & getting a war going, & so on, & so, …he is the perfect guy.

“Foreign Affairs” the magazine for the “Council On Foreign Relations” (CFR), in its November, December, 1998 edition, published an article entitled “Catastrophic Terrorism – Imagining The Transformative Event”. The “Pearl Harbor” like event occurred just 3 years later. Philip Zelikow was 1 of the authors.

“…if the 1993 bombing of the WTC had succeeded, “the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of “Catastrophic Terrorism” would be a watershed event in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America’s fundamental sense of security… Like Pearl Harbor, the event would divide our past and future (thus break) into a before and an after. The United States might respond with ”Draconian Measures” scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force. More violence would follow, either future terrorist attacks or US counterattacks. Belatedly, Americans would judge their leaders negligent for not addressing terrorism more urgently.” Philip Zelikow, CATASTROPHIC TERRORISM: Imagining the Transformative Event – 1998.

“He was certainly the perfect choice for helping to write the report…”

Philip Zelikow, who is the head of the 911 Commission, has an interesting background. His “thesis” in college was on “Creating Public Myths”. And as many of us know, 911 was the “Ultimate Public Myth”.

“Contemporary History” is defined functionally by those critical people and events that go into forming the public’s presumptions about its immediate past… akin to “public myth” without all the negative implication.”

“Such presumptions are beliefs thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and shared in common within the relevant political community.” – Philip Zelikow

Prior to his appointment to head the 911 Commission, Philip Zelikow was the executive director of the Aspen strategy group (Markle Task Force on National Security) whose members include Cheney, Rice and Wolfowitz.

My starting point is of course that these attacks were not the work of any group of Arab or Muslim fanatics, but were rather a “deliberate war provocation” orchestrated by the US Intelligence Community & the security bureaucracy. But let’s focus on Zelikow as an individual.

When Philip Zelikow was then appointed, to be the Staff Director, doing the substantive work of the Kane/Hamilton Commission, he suffered from a crippling conflict of interest. Because he has such close personal ties to Ms. Rice, who of course on her capacity as the head of the “National Security Council”, was 1 of the main people that he was going to “investigate”. Governor Kane of New Jersey, the former Congressman Lee Hamilton from Indiana, put in ceremonial appearances, did some public speeches on the subject, but the main work was done by a “Staff”, that was directed by Philip Zelikow.

Catastrophic Terrorism – by Philip Zelikow et alia Nov.-Dec. 1998


“Zelikow is not interested in discovering what’s going on.

As a reward for the job he did w/ the report, they put him on the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board / PFIAB, which is a group you don’t hear about very much. But is a very key link between what you might call the “White House” & the “Ruling Establishment of the United States”.

He is an example of the kind of “invisible government operative” who is part of the cover-up that will attempt to make sure that the truth about the “911 Terrorist Attacks” is never known, all the while eagerly calling for military action against Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, & other Arabs & Muslim States.”

References: :-o :-o :-o

Zelikow - 911 Commission Cover-Up – P1 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuoQZkBFj9A

Zelikow - 911 Commission Cover-Up – P2 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XQWBQKsqBU

Death, Lies & Videotape - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYI7JXGqd0o&mode=related&search=

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The Militarization Of The American Police - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

The Militarization Of The American Police
Here it is. It is no longer a "conspiracy" it is the "real thing". The victims are anybody. Kids as little 5, 6, 12, or 13 years old. Male or female. Grand paps & moms. Anyone...

The Militarization Of The American Police - by Greg Evensen. August 13, 2006. (from www.newswithviews.com)

"As a former state police trooper, I can state emphatically, that I oppose the move away from local policing to a heavily armed “national” quasi-military police force policy.

"...a “show of force” to keep the natives in line. This is to soften up the American public in case they held thoughts of fending for themselves or decisively telling these servants that they weren’t needed, thank you. But then, a well armed citizenry doesn’t fit the UN model of a disarmed..." (populace).

"I simply do not understand the thinking of upper level criminal justice system directors who have not recently, if ever, read their US or state constitution. This is especially true in regard to the public’s right to privacy and self-protection. Issues regarding the 2nd amendment, due process, limited government, and how far we have strayed from the Founder’s beliefs abound."

"Suffice it to say that as a nation, we have stood by while the police forces of the USA have become a force that projects intimidation, fear from the community, and a reputation for excessive force. Regardless of the needed response, it makes even routine contact with the public a major ordeal."

"If many Americans like a militarized police state future they may well get it. For me, that is not acceptable. I choose to work toward my destiny and that of a free America within the constitution, for sure. I prefer an American future without the unconstitutional agencies, laws, judge’s rulings, and decrees from many treasonous bureaucrats. We don’t need threats and intimidation from goons masquerading as local and state lawmakers or brain-washed, gun-toting morons like the New Orleans Chief of Police."

"The time is coming fast, when millions of Americans who understand what this colossal struggle is all about in the United States and around the world, have severe choices that will be required to be made. The UN will not simply allow the US [u]to continue[/b] as a sovereign nation when the rest of the world is under its domination. That is not paranoia. That is simply the deduction one gets from understanding the UN’s published plans. Your future actions will determine whether you will go to the re-education camp, or the internment camp for troublemakers (read that constitution supporters)."
http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg.htm

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Excerpt from above post:

"The time is coming fast, when millions of Americans who understand what this colossal struggle is all about in the United States and around the world, have severe choices that will be required to be made. The UN will not simply allow the US to continue[/b] as a sovereign nation when the rest of the world is [u]under its domination. That is not paranoia. That is simply the deduction one gets from understanding the UN’s published plans. Your future actions will determine whether you will go to the re-education camp, or the internment camp for “troublemakers” (read that constitution supporters)."
http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg.htm

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We will all be PARDONED for our past actions and escape a re-education camp, or the internment camp for "troublemakers", if we cease and desist heretofore?
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The Militarization Of The American Police - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

The Militarization Of The American Police
Here it is. It is no longer a "conspiracy" it is the "real thing". The victims are anybody. Kids as little 5, 6, 12, or 13 years old. Male or female. Grand paps & moms. Anyone...

The Militarization Of The American Police - by Greg Evensen. August 13, 2006. (from www.newswithviews.com)

"As a former state police trooper, I can state emphatically, that I oppose the move away from local policing to a heavily armed “national” quasi-military police force policy.

"...a “show of force” to keep the natives in line. This is to soften up the American public in case they held thoughts of fending for themselves or decisively telling these servants that they weren’t needed, thank you. But then, a well armed citizenry doesn’t fit the UN model of a disarmed..." (populace).

"I simply do not understand the thinking of upper level criminal justice system directors who have not recently, if ever, read their US or state constitution. This is especially true in regard to the public’s right to privacy and self-protection. Issues regarding the 2nd amendment, due process, limited government, and how far we have strayed from the Founder’s beliefs abound."

"Suffice it to say that as a nation, we have stood by while the police forces of the USA have become a force that projects intimidation, fear from the community, and a reputation for excessive force. Regardless of the needed response, it makes even routine contact with the public a major ordeal."

"If many Americans like a militarized police state future they may well get it. For me, that is not acceptable. I choose to work toward my destiny and that of a free America within the constitution, for sure. I prefer an American future without the unconstitutional agencies, laws, judge’s rulings, and decrees from many treasonous bureaucrats. We don’t need threats and intimidation from goons masquerading as local and state lawmakers or brain-washed, gun-toting morons like the New Orleans Chief of Police."

"The time is coming fast, when millions of Americans who understand what this colossal struggle is all about in the United States and around the world, have severe choices that will be required to be made. The UN will not simply allow the US [u]to continue[/b] as a sovereign nation when the rest of the world is under its domination. That is not paranoia. That is simply the deduction one gets from understanding the UN’s published plans. Your future actions will determine whether you will go to the re-education camp, or the internment camp for troublemakers (read that constitution supporters)."
http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg.htm

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Oh My G-D....


Just when you think it could'nt get worser, I just read that BLACKWATER has been training American Police Departments for a while now, secretly that is.. :-?

story below...

Blackwater training police in American cities and towns

The mercenary firm Blackwater USA is well known for the controversy involving its "shoot first, ask no questions" policy in Iraq. It is also known that Louisiana's Department of Homeland Security contracted with Blackwater to provide public law enforcement services in New Orleans following hurricane Katrina. Blackwater is also planning to establish regional training centers in Potrero, California and Mount Carroll, Illinois, billed as Blackwater West and Blackwater North, respectively.

These training centers, in addition to Blackwater's Lodge and Training Center in Moyock, North Carolina -- Blackwater East -- and a possible fourth rumored to be slated for the Pacific Northwest -- Blackwater Northwest -- may result in the establishment of a network of Blackwater-trained police, sheriffs, and other police units around the country. Given Blackwater's dismal record on human rights and brutality, this spells trouble for civilian control of police and paramilitary forces in the United States, from major metropolitan areas to small rural towns.

On October 14, the Washington Post ran a story, which included photographs from Blackwater's Moyock training center. However, what was most intriguing was a photograph of a police and military patch board at Blackwater's headquarters that indicated the police agencies that have sent their officers to Moyock for training.

Blackwater is secretive about its non-federal, as well as its foreign clients, which the Post pointed out includes Jordan, Azerbaijan, and Burkina Faso, but a WMR inspection of the photograph of the police agencies has yielded the following list of agencies that have used Blackwater for training:

1. Iowa Department of Natural Resources

2. Maricopa County, Arizona Sheriff's Department

3. Matthews, North Carolina Police

4. Atlanta Police

5. Chillicothe, Ohio Police

6. Charleston, South Carolina Police

7. Port Chester, NY Police

8. Highland, Indiana Police

9. Unalaska, Alaska Police

10. Metropolitan Washington, DC Police

11. Charlottesville, Virginia Police

12. Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority (Dulles and Reagan National Airports)

13. St. Louis County Police (Missouri)

14. Queen Anne's County, Maryland Police

15. Prince George's County, Maryland Police

16. FBI SWAT Team

17. Gloucester Township, New Jersey Police

18. Tempe, Arizona Police

19. New York Police Department

20. Yonkers, New York Police

21. Fairfax County, Virginia Police

22. Maplewood, New Jersey Police

23. Gastonia, North Carolina Police

24. Tampa Police

25. U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA)

26. DeKalb County, Georgia Police

27. Arlington County, Virginia Police

28. Baltimore Police

29. U.S. Coast Guard

30. Suffolk, Virginia Police

31. Franklin City, Virginia Police

32. Milford, Delaware Police

33. University of Texas Police

34. Norfolk, Virginia Police

35. Ottawa-Carleton, Canada Police

36. San Bernardino County, California Sheriff

37. Plattsburgh, New York Police

38. Chicago Police Department

39. Oregon State Police

40. Los Angeles Police Department

41. Tonawanda, New York Police

42. Special Forces of Colombia

43. Jacksonville, North Carolina Police

44. Harvey Cedars, New Jersey Police

45. Elmira, New York Police

46. Department of Corrections, New Jersey

47. Lexington, Kentucky Police

48. Willimantic, Connecticut Police

49. Georgia Department of Law Enforcement

50. City of Fairfax, Virginia Police

51. Alexandria, Virginia Police Special Operations

52. Illinois State Police

53. Dallas, Texas Police

54. Hamilton, Ohio Police

55. Morganton, North Carolina Police

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A number of the police departments that have been trained by Blackwater have abysmal civil rights and police brutality records, most notably the Chicago Police and Illinois State Police, both cited by former Illinois Governor George Ryan as being guilty of police misconduct in his decision to commute the death sentences of Illinois' death row inmates. It was a decision that likely had much to do with his indictment by the Bush administration on corruption charges -- political misuse of the Department of Justice that has been seen in the indictments and investigations of Alabama former Democratic Governor Don Siegelman and HealthSouth former CEO Richard Scrushy, Qwest's former CEO Joseph Nacchio, Democratic campaign contributor Martha Stewart, Coastal Corporation' s former Chairman and Democratic contributor Oscar Wyatt, and Democratic-leaning trial attorneys around the United States, as well as the firings of several U.S. Attorneys who refused to engage in political
prosecutions, and a Justice Department workup on North Carolina presidential candidate John Edwards in 2004.

The training and potential political indoctrination of police officers by the extreme right-wing and proto-fascist Blackwater, coupled with the politicization of the Justice Department and U.S. courts, has the potential for the streets of Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, Atlanta, New York, and Washington, DC, as well as Chillicothe, Harvey Cedars, and Elmira to turn as bloody as the streets of Baghdad and Fallujah.

Citizens have a distinct opportunity of confronting their local elected city, county, and town officials over Blackwater training of their police officers. Local officials should be pressured to reveal the numbers and identities of officers trained by Blackwater, the subjects covered by the training, the revenues spent, and a public demand should be made to cease and desist in such training.

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