Is religion opium for the people?

[Marsali]

I apologise if I offended you, Akbar. While I do believe Islam to be a warrior religion, I realize that the majority of Muslims just want to live their lives peacefully, and to be left alone.

The invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were terrible tragedies, with a great loss of life, mostly of innocent civilians. While the invasion of any country is rarely justified, it's always a really bad idea to invade a Muslim country, because they will usually fight back.

I'm not going to answer any of your questions, Akbar, because it will only lead to endless arguements. I've been there and done that on this forum, and it doesn't really lead to anything good. I'm not going to change your mind about anything, and you're not going to change mine.

[Insider]

I have read the Koran. Do I need to say more or can we have discussion without disrupting arguments.

Sure insider, I'll argue with you. What do you want to argue about? Islam?

Let it fly...

[Akbar]

Marsali,

I'm not offended. I just would like for you to respond to my posts rationally and not emotionally. The information I posted was not meant to cause an argument, but to start an intelligent dialogue. If you have rational responses to my question then I would love to hear them. If not then just state that you cannot rationally explain those things you hold dear. Abraham is often called the father of religion. What is special about Abraham is that he came to his belief in God rationally. God does not give us a brain then turn around and insult our intelligence with the trinity belief. Everything in creation points to their being a creator behind it. Even Jesus stated why call me good All the praises belong to the father.

[Insider]

mihai_bravu wrote:
Sure insider, I'll argue with you. What do you want to argue about? Islam?

Let it fly...

You already know it all so you can go wallow with Allah's favorite camel.

[Marsali]

Just because someone writes something that you obviously strongly disagree with doesn't mean that it's emotional or irrational.
By labeling what I wrote as emotional or irrational, it means that you don't have to (or don't want to) take it seriously.

Insider wrote:

You already know it all so you can go wallow with Allah's favorite camel.

So, you only argue with people who don't know what they're talking about?

And what do you have against camels?

[Insider]

mihai_bravu wrote:

So, you only argue with people who don't know what they're talking about?

And what do you have against camels?

Michael, give us your thoughts on hexagrams.

[madkhao]

Back to crosses,
I had another thought
I + -
the cross is also a symbol for positive
the dash negative
notice the dash is the position in which we lay when we sleep or die. it is parallel to the earth
it can symbolize death
and the cross contains the position we are in when we are standing or sleeping.
it can symbolize life
they say symbols are the language of the conscience
so I formulate as long as we are spiritually or physically in the negative position our conscience and our being can only travel the earth and we are never truly alive and we are trapped on earth
now in the cross symbol we are sleeping and are dead but when we awake from our slumber here
on earth we begin to have life
now christians know that death has been overcome and when the chains of death have been released from us we become I

[Akbar]

Yes, but the main thing is that it appears to relate more about human beings. The insight you gave is good, but what is it that causes the human being to stand erect or go to sleep. The word of God makes the human being erect and without we fall to sleep to the great posibilities that God wants for us.