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Old 10-31-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: why are people so hostile to white nationalists, or white separatists? Is it Pavlovian?


This is relevant.

New World Order: Soloution Or Seduction? Am reposting this classic little lecture. made small enough so you can e-mail it. In 2 parts. I think it is easily the best lecture on the basics of the NWO and it's origins and is presented perfectly. Jeremy Lee is a brilliant speaker. He speaks mainly of Oz in the middle but the lecture is directly applicable to all people.

www.members.iinet.net.au/~falluga

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Old 10-31-2005, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: why are people so hostile to white nationalists, or white separatists? Is it Pavlovian?

well, it's undoubtedly high time the black people woke up....

there seems to be a common misconception that blacks are incapable of creating a prosperous economy and need the whites to make it happen for them. but nothing could be farther from the truth. in fact, blacks had a very prosperous economy and society in the state of oklahoma in the early 20th century, so much so that an area of greenwood, oklahoma came to be known as "black wall street", as it was powerful enough to rival the wall street of new york city.

and then came one of the worst holocausts perpetrated by the kkk. and what did the government of the "land of opportunity" do? looked the other way of course! and this is never taught in the history books either.

more details on the holocaust for those looking for more information....

http://www.blackwallstreet.freeservers.com/

the "land of opportunity" also enacted the "asiatic barred zone" that prevented orientals from immigrating to usa. initially asian indians were allowed to immigrate as they were scientifically classified as caucasian, but in course of time, the law was changed (thanks to the racist justice sutherland, who could not bear to see a darker-complexioned asian indian getting usa citizenship) in order that a person was not only required to be genetically caucasian, but also have a complexion that's light enough to be identified as caucasian by the "common man", in order to be eligible for immigration. so much so for the "land of equal opportunities"......

this continued for a very long time (as the racist self-righteousness was being fanned really well) until president kennedy annulled the above barbaric laws, and started giving a true meaning to the "land of opportunity". hence, the people of color ought to be grateful to president kennedy for opening the door for them.

now, this is not meant to persecute the whites of today's generation, and most whites of today are free from racial prejudices. but should there be a big surprise to see this backlash happening? i really don't think so! after all, what goes around comes around, as ordained by nature.

today nature has given the colored people an opportunity to regain their self-esteem and pride. they can accomplish this either by putting down the whites, or through a divine approach involving forgiveness, tolerance and self-introspection. and do the whites hold the responsibility of practicing forgiveness and lovingly persuading the colored people to follow the latter approach? i absolutely think so!
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: why are people so hostile to white nationalists, or white separatists? Is it Pavlovian?

The problem with current liberal dogma is not just 'white guilt' but the idea implanted in the heads of minorities that without full white acceptance (or 'non-discrimination'), they cannot be full members of a society, or even human beings. This paternalistic relationship should at first appear insulting to minorities, but the lefties have finaggled it to mean something 'empowering' when you can force other people to accept you.

The overt message is that whites control the resources, the subtext however, is that non-whites cannot prosper on their own.

It only creates feelings of low self-esteem, jealousy, hatred, etc. This is another class warfare technique.

We know that welfare was a tool used to destroy black society, and make it appear that they were eating out of the hand of whites. The same is true with affirmative action/forced integration. Self-esteem can only come through accomplishment and self-sustainance, and self-determination.

Liberals need the constant tension of class warfare to keep their jobs, so instead they tell minorities that they have full rights to a white society, and when they feel rebuffed, they are being 'oppressed'. Whites in turn feel resentful. Both sides are being played off eachother.
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:12 PM
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Default Re: why are people so hostile to white nationalists, or white separatists? Is it Pavlovian?

But crowneagle does make a good point that Blacks can be prosperous when left alone. I'm sure someone can dig up the stats later, but just look at how things went down hill after forced integration and the welfare state. Before they had professional sports teams, doctors, dentists, their own universities, mayors, etc. compared to now where their 'leaders' can just lobby for more money and 'acceptance' from the white majority.

They've essentially taken the black man's fishing pole away, and gave him a bowl to beg with instead.
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: why are people so hostile to white nationalists, or white separatists? Is it Pavlovian?

I agree with Thumper. Good post.
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Old 11-17-2005, 08:58 AM
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Default HOMELAND - Into A World Of Hate

This book apparently documents fanatics from the far right.





*also called Into a World of Hate: A Journey Among the Extreme Right (USA/Canada)

'His style is bold, the reportage lively, and he makes the characters – some drawn with the power and detail of Dickens – menacing enough that you can hear them breathe heavily into your ears...Ryan took seven years to penetrate the dark world of fascism in the 21st century. He took great risks and clearly put the whole of himself into the project. He is a compelling witness. He writes furiously, at times brilliantly. He makes you share his fears and passions.'

The Independent, Yasmin Alibhai-Brown

Preface

We see them fleetingly. Men dressed in white sheets, paunchy figures in survival gear, throwing their Hitler salutes, almost unreal. We laugh or shake our heads, turn the page, and move on to less depressing or ridiculous news.

Like you, so I once thought. Sniggering at the TV, safe and comfortable, the world reduced to bite-sized headlines. After all, what have skinheads, hooligans and Nazi fanatics to do with the rest of us?

But what if – just if – these people represented something larger? Leading ordinary lives in and among us, with the same problems and fears. Not so different after all.

Homeland is the story of my journey into their world. A glimpse into a place most of us will not, or choose not, to see.

Neither investigation, history lesson, or political analysis, this book is one man's recollection of his time spent amongst these men and women. Six years of my life writ large, for better or worse. As much my story as theirs.

I hope you learn from it.

What is Homeland?

Homeland tackles the rise of the extreme right in a unique, often disturbing, adventure/odyssey. It's a mix of adventure, travel and extremism, all rolled into one.

Moving from British neo-nazi gangs to US Presidential candidates and Europe’s political zealots, Homeland is a gripping six-year adventure and social commentary, a truly unique account of the underbelly of modern society.

Describing how he builds trust with the men and women at the heart of such movements, Nick Ryan depicts a search for identity, belonging and belief, as he travels through an interconnected network of both violent and political extremists.

If you want to know about the coal face of extremism, how fundamentalism as dangerous and threatening as al-Qaeda in the East is now rising in the West – indeed, is inextricably linked to it – Homeland is the place to find it.

The work for the book led to Nick's involvement with the critically-acclaimed BBC drama England Expects (written by Frank Deasy), which he helped produce over a three-and-a-half year period.

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Old 11-17-2005, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: HOMELAND - Into A World Of Hate

Well, goodie goodie, IGWT, another book on those evil Nationalists and skin heads.

Nick Ryan should not have taken 6 years to get his book to press, that evil has been supplanted by the evil de jour Muslims with their Molotov cocktails and cries of "Allah is great!" Guess you just can't depend on anything any more to sell books.

All that suffering in a place "most of us will not, or choose not" to see or go. Poor baby. Perhaps he will ensconce himself inside the radical left next, it beats working, huh? He will doubtless find it dull after the last 6 exciting years. Commies are not known for much but vicious deeds and murder. You might want to research that book in someone's archives, like say, Henry Kissinger.

All right, everybody, off with those sheets, I need them for the table. Nick Ryan has been invited over, we're serving grits and crow.
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Old 11-17-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: HOMELAND - Into A World Of Hate

Yeh, tuck in that "mullet" hairdo BARBARA and ring the bell for dinner.

Still, their is a heavy dickhead element in these movements. Encouraged of course by the Intelligence Services. Cant have articulate, middle class people in the movement. Might gain credibility.
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Old 11-17-2005, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: HOMELAND - Into A World Of Hate

Truebeliever, my man, you KNOW you are right!

If you took out all the infiltrators and agents provacateur all that would be left is one lonely old bald-headed buy with a beer gut and tatoos looking around saying, "WTF, WTF?" :lol:
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