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Old 11-18-2005, 06:05 AM
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Right. I'll wait by the front window with the porchlight on. Just a trick to get me to identify myself, so then the real fun can begin... no thanks, played that game already. You'll have to work a little harder than that.
How do you expect me to give you the answer you want if you don't tell me?

What country? and State. We'll start with that shall we.

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What you claim against a group, you claim about every member.

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Old 11-18-2005, 06:34 AM
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I hope Saturnino wont mind me utilizing his location, but to show how easy it is to find out who are masons and who are not.

In Brazil you have the following lodges, this in particular are Prince Hall lodges, something you don't get outside the Americas.

ARLS Amor a Justica No. 133 - Sao Paulo - 46 38 W 23 33 S

ARLS Edgard Armond Lodge No. 407 - Sao Paulo - 46 38 W 23 33 S

ARLS Hugo Simas No. 92 - Curitiba - 49 17 W 25 25 S

Fénix de Brasília - 1959 R.E.A.A. - Brasília - 47 55 W 15 52 S
Farol Guia das Missoes, 69 - Santa Rosa - 54 28 W 27 52 S
Frank Shermann Land Lodge No. 545 - Sao Paulo - 46 38 W 23 33 S

Gran Loja Autonoma do Brasil - Campograno - 47 55 W 25 25 S

Luz Invisivel 033 - Curitiba - 49 15 W 25 25 S

Marechal Floriano Lodge No. 31 - Caxias do Sul - 51 13 W 30 02 S

Ponto no Espaco No. 279 (GLESP) - Sao Paulo - 46 38 W 23 33 S

Sir Alexander Fleming Lodge - Porto Alegre - 51 13 W 30 02 S

Sol & Liberdade 2897 - Tupan - 46 55 W 23 33 S
Tupan Lodge No. 3244 F.& A.M. - Tupan - 46 55 W 23 33 S

Veritas & Justitia Lodge No. 509 - Sao Paulo - 46 38 W 23 33 S

Weber de Mello Lula Lodge No. 3366 - Joao Pessoa
XV de Novembro - Palmas - 28 02 W 37 45 S

I'll used the first lodge as an example:

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Diretoria

CARGO
NOME

V.'. M.'.
Joviano Lima Luz Filho
1º Vig.'. Paulo Roberto Gabuardi
2º Vig.'. Amadeu Carlos Ferreira
Orador Marcelo Francisco de Castro
Orador Adjunto Ezaú Messias dos Santos
Secretário Cleiton Simão da Rosa
Secretário Adjunto José Benedito Silveira Sólito
Oficiais

CARGO
NOME
Tesoureiro Geraldo Tavares
Tesoureiro Adjunto Elcias de Souza
Chanceler José Galvão Penteado
Chanceler Adjunto Antônio Marcos Rossi
Mestre de Cerimônias José Domizetti da Cunha
1º Diácono Marcelo Gomes Aranha de Lima
2º Diácono Benedito Roque de Souza
Hospitaleiro José Aloísio Corradini
Hospitaleiro Adjunto Ubirajara Jarbas de Souza Junior
Mestre de Harmonia Arnaldo Pereira
Porta Estandarte Gentil de Souza Coelho
Cobridor Interno Vitório Massaru Bando
Cobridor Externo Jorge Luis Fernandes
1º Experto Dirceu Nardi
2º Experto Antonio Carmelito Marassato
3º Experto Orestes Torso
Mestre de Banquetes José Carlos Osso
Porta Espada Carlos Alberto Scarpelli
Porta Bandeira Valdir Fernando Nardi
Arquiteto José Antônio de Moraes Barbosa
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:35 AM
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Default Re: Yes, Bondi I do have a question

What does it prove ? I can give you the address of the Rothschilds, if you want. It doesn't mean they will say they are part of the cabalist elite.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:39 AM
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As for movers and shakers, simple look for the World Conference of Masonic Grand Lodges.

The one in 1999 was actually held in Sao Paulo, when Salim Zugaib, was the Most Worship Grand Master of the State of Sao Paulo, Brazil.

If you go to sites like www.worldfreemasonry.org you can actually see who attended and spoke about what.

The only thing you need to decipher regarding the info you find and read is which are regular and which are not.

The same as Christianity, Freemasonry has it's spin offs, which claim to be the real thing, and actually are not.
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Old 11-18-2005, 09:26 AM
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What does it prove ?
It proves if you want to know who the Freemasons in your own area, it is not hard to find out.

the original question

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then would you please be so kind as to provide me with a complete membership list for your organization or tell me where I may obtain one?
To which I quite plaining explained how to find the information.

to which the response was

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Nice evasive answer, Bondi.
Which still leaves me no closer to identifying the ring and pin boys in my own community.
I had not evaded the question, I had in fact answered it in full.

If he wants to give me his area, I will list the masons of office in the area.

Trouble is, he's gobbed off not expecting an answer, and is now finding excuses, he could of easily said anywhere in the world to see if I would, but made out if he did his safety would be compromised.
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Old 11-18-2005, 10:34 AM
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Bondi, knowing who the Masons are doesn't help seeing what they do. Whta do you think, that we should knock on their doors and they would tell us all about their schemes ?

We have centuries of history that tells us about their mischief, their own books that tell us about their Luciferian doctrine, hundreds of witnesses (ex-Masons) who tells us what happens there...even here in Brazil they threw down the Monarchy...you can go to Paris today and see the church where they killed almost a hundred priests. Their values are totally in line with the New World Order and are against religion, nationalism and tradition.

I don't where to start ! Please consider reading at least one book about it from the other perspective.
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Old 11-18-2005, 10:42 AM
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Bondi, knowing who the Masons are doesn't help seeing what they do. Whta do you think, that we should knock on their doors and they would tell us all about their schemes ?
That wasn't the question.

It is hardly fair to knock for not answering something that wasn't asked.

He wanted a list of all the members, he never asked anything esle (or she, don't know which you are Freedman, so no offence)

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Saturnino wrote:We have centuries of history that tells us about their mischief, their own books that tell us about their Luciferian doctrine, hundreds of witnesses (ex-Masons) who tells us what happens there...even here in Brazil they threw down the Monarchy...you can go to Paris today and see the church where they killed almost a hundred priests.
as you can go to Rwuanda and see the mass grave of the genecide cause by Christians.

The inqusition had a few fatalities I seem to recall.

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Their values are totally in line with the New World Order and are against religion, nationalism and tradition.
They have no religious stance, no political stance, any lodge that has is not a regular masonic lodge, and therefore not Freemasonry.

The values, or as we call them the 3 principles, of Freemasonry are

Truth, Relieve, and Bortherly Love.

The term brotherly love as taught to all masons is brother as fellow humans, ie all are equal, before you get the wrong end of that stick and start wagging it.

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I don't where to start ! Please consider reading at least one book about it from the other perspective.
That is where I started.
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Old 11-18-2005, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: Yes, Bondi I do have a question

No no, Bondi...
when Christians kill, they are acting completely against their faith.
The difference is when Masons work for the New World Order, they are following strictly their beliefs.
Again, you know that.
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Old 11-21-2005, 03:58 AM
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No no, Bondi...
when Christians kill, they are acting completely against their faith.
But when a mason does something wrong, he's doing for Freemasonry! Figures.

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The difference is when Masons work for the New World Order, they are following strictly their beliefs.
Again, you know that.
So is Freemasonry the NWO, Yes or No?

If a mason works for the governemt, does Freemasonry then become a government organisation.

I know of a priest who is a Freemason, so are we a Christian organisation as well.

Freemasonry is not the NWO.
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:05 AM
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I know of a priest who is a Freemason, so are we a Christian organisation as well.
My dear, dear BONDI. Here is the problem and here is where I sincerely doubt your "sincerity".

A "priest", cannot, by definition, be a "Christian" and a "Mason". It is philosophically and ethically impossible.

The Masonic order worships at ALL levels the "intellect" and the "impersonal" patterns of nature. Thats Masonry at it's best. At it's worst it's outright Satanic.

ROFL. Please, stop. Just who the hell do you think you're exchanging posts with? 15 year old Ickian supporters?
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