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Old 04-26-2005, 09:56 PM
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Godís Master Plan? - :-o :-o :-o

So, Ahmad, while you are at it,

1) Is it in Godís master plan, for powerful men in power to kill less powerful men, women, & children?
2) Are those killing the masses already condemned, or are any of them men of God?
3) Is everything bad that happens to you a punishment, as if you had it coming?
4) Is it part of the master plan for evil to try to dominate our minds & hearts until God decides, enough is enough?
5) What about the dualities in nature, light & dark, good & evil, the Ying & the Yang, love & hate, male & female. What is their purpose?
6) When are the 7 angels or arch-angels going to play their trumpets?

Please enlighten...
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Old 04-26-2005, 11:20 PM
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Peace,

"1) Is it in Godís master plan, for powerful men in power to kill less powerful men, women, & children?"

Ofcourse not, this is Satan's plan, his goal is to gather followers in order to destroy them and their victims (the human beings). And to make it easier for you, try to look at one event from two different perspectives. But know that we can never know exactly God's plan, however we try to understand using the scriptures. For example the Israelis killed Rachel, if you ask Satan why? he might reveal his jealousy and hatred of the righteous, God-fearing individuals. If you try to understand God's wisdom, you may find it completely different, the Israelis are lead on to the edge of the cliff, while Rachel was simply summoned back to Heaven because she crossed the point of fear (when she stood infront of the bulldozer) and thus proved here faith, and earned a ticket back to Heaven. She was simply transferred back to Heaven, and rest assured that she didn't suffer beyond her means.
So every event happening has two natures, the blind only see what Satan has to show them, while the righteous can see through and understand (to some extent) God's wisdom behind it.


"2) Are those killing the masses already condemned, or are any of them men of God?"

Ofcourse they are condemned, God never advocates sin, killing is forbidden except in the course of justice, e.g: self defense.

[7:28] They commit a gross sin, then say, "We found our parents doing this, and GOD has commanded us to do it." Say, "GOD never advocates sin. Are you saying about GOD what you do not know?"

[17:33] You shall not kill any person - for GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. If one is killed unjustly, then we give his heir authority to enforce justice. Thus, he shall not exceed the limits in avenging the murder, he will be helped.



"3) Is everything bad that happens to you a punishment, as if you had it coming?"

Absolutely yes.

God is the Doer of Everything*

[4:78] Wherever you are, death will catch up with you, even if you live in formidable castles. When something good happens to them, they say, "This is from GOD," and when something bad afflicts them, they blame you. Say, "Everything comes from GOD." Why do these people misunderstand almost everything?

Nothing Bad Comes From God

[4:79] Anything good that happens to you is from GOD, and anything bad that happens to you is from you. We have sent you as a messenger to the people, and GOD suffices as witness.

*4:78 Bad things are consequences of our own deeds (42:30, 64:11), though God is the doer of everything (8:17). God created the fire to serve us, but you can decide to put your finger in it. We thus hurt ourselves. It is God's law that if you put your finger in the fire, it will hurt. Rashad Khalifa


"4) Is it part of the master plan for evil to try to dominate our minds & hearts until God decides, enough is enough?"

Well, this is why we are here, it is because we had doubts when Satan said that things can happen independent of God's will, he said that the creatures themselves are gods, e.g: the forbidden tree can grant eternal life on its own, and money can grant happiness regardless of its origin...etc. Thus we are here to decide once and forall if we believe God or Satan is truthful.

[3:179] GOD is not to leave the believers as you are, without distinguishing the bad from the good. Nor does GOD inform you of the future, but GOD bestows such knowledge upon whomever He chooses from among His messengers. Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and His messengers. If you believe and lead a righteous life, you receive a great recompense.

Satan uses all the creatures to tempt us and he is granted access (and a respite till the judgment day) to our minds, but he cannot control them except if we allow him. I believe that this year is the turning-year, when Satan's kingdom will be topelled, for now he is obviously controlling the resources and enslaving us all in his system (but remember that the ultimate controller is God), and this was planned by God so that people like the evil dictators be exposed and the righteous people like Rachel, Diana, Marla, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, ....etc prove their righteousness. However in all the scriptures there is a hidden prophecy of fulfilment for God's true worshipers of all natioanlities and colors, God says that at some point Satan's kingdom will be toplled (but he will still tempt the people) and the righteous will take over the rule of this dominion untill the final prophecy of God&Magog comes to pass 10 years before the end of the world (2280 AD), these are heathen communities that will eventually appear and fight the righteous.


"5) What about the dualities in nature, light & dark, good & evil, the Ying & the Yang, love & hate, male & female. What is their purpose?"

I believe their purpose is to emphasize that the visible is an illusion and the unseen is the reality. That we always have to look for the good point and God's message instead of being occupied with what Satan has to offer us. Also just imagine if we had a perpetual day forever! or night only, would we really feel God's hand in the universe! we would have lost hope and surrendered to the monotonous reality of Satan. But it is this duality that gives us hope in God.

[2:164] In the creation of the heavens and the earth, the alternation of night and day, the ships that roam the ocean for the benefit of the people, the water that GOD sends down from the sky to revive dead land and to spread in it all kinds of creatures, the manipulation of the winds, and the clouds that are placed between the sky and the earth, there are sufficient proofs for people who understand.

God's Blessings

[28:71] Say, "What if GOD made the night perpetual, until the Day of Resurrection? Which god, other than GOD, can provide you with light? Do you not hear?"

[28:72] Say, "What if GOD made the daylight perpetual, until the Day of Resurrection? Which god, other than GOD, can provide you with a night for your rest? Do you not see?"

[28:73] It is mercy from Him that He created for you the night and the day in order to rest (during the night), then seek His provisions (during the day), that you may be appreciative.

All what you can see and feel is but to prove to you that God is here and He is in full control.


"6) When are the 7 angels or arch-angels going to play their trumpets?"

I don't know about the seven angels, they are not mentioned in Quran, however the horn will be blown on the year 2280 to end the final battle between good and evil (God&Magog) and then everybody will be struck unconcious and then the horn will be blown again and everybody will be resurrected (and then the earth will be destroyed by the physical coming of God (and not Jesus) in dense clouds along with the angels, and a new earth and Heaven will be created) then everyone will be summoned before the Judge to present his defense, read his book and hear the judgment.
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Old 04-26-2005, 11:58 PM
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Godís Master Plan? - :-o :-o :-o

Ahmad, thanks for taking the time to respond !
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Old 04-27-2005, 02:08 AM
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I thought the whole point was that God withdrew and said basically..."I've worked hard to create you...now come to me of your own free will to a Father who loves you".

I set you free.

It is Satan who will be doing the destroying...we need only accept Gods love and it will end. God will empower individual human beings to confront naked power and aggression and bring peace on Earth.

When you and I take the time to do our little bits to fight this NWO program we are acting with the will of God behind us.

Bit by bit.
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Old 04-29-2005, 10:57 AM
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The Washington Monument is comprised of many bricks from masonic temples that were donated by lodges from various locations in the U.S. Not all of the bricks are of this nature, but many are.
God doesn't not necessarily equate to Christianity - and the masonic tradition does not believe in the divinity of Jesus the Christ.
Pierre Charles l'Enfant was, himself, a mason.
More research would show that the cross that is formed by connecting those landmarks, mentioned in a previous post, are actually only part of a much larger symbol. If you include all of the aforementioned landmarks in addition to others, you'll notice that it forms a perfect pentacle, or the "Blazing Star." Other symbols formed in conjunction of other landmarks are an owl, or the "Molloch," which you can also find in the upper right hand corner of the dollar bill.
Another thing to note would be that many of the dedication ceremonies or unveilings of these landmarks happened at specific times of astrological star and planetary placements, right down to the hour and minute.
A good book on this topic is called Secret Architecture Of Our Nation's Capital: The Masons & The Building Of Washington, D.C. by David Ovason. He doesn't write in conspiritorial condemnation of it, quite the contrary. He's a proponent of the hidden meanings and ceremonies involved with erection of the capitols architecture.
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Old 04-29-2005, 06:42 PM
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He doesn't write in conspiritorial condemnation of it, quite the contrary. He's a proponent of the hidden meanings and ceremonies involved with erection of the capitols architecture.
And this is supposed to be a good thing? What the fuck you smokin' dude? I want some. Puff puff give mofo, you fuckin up the rotation. :-P
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I di'nt say it was a good thing. Unh uh...no I di'nt.
I mentioned that because often times a person can be more easily discredited if they are writing in oposition of something. This guy let everyone in on the secret because he was proud.
Is the architecture bad? In my opinion it ain't good as far as why, when, where, and who was involved in it's erection.
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Old 05-01-2005, 05:07 AM
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More research would show that the cross that is formed by connecting those landmarks, mentioned in a previous post, are actually only part of a much larger symbol. If you include all of the aforementioned landmarks in addition to others, you'll notice that it forms a perfect pentacle, or the "Blazing Star." Other symbols formed in conjunction of other landmarks are an owl, or the "Molloch," which you can also find in the upper right hand corner of the dollar bill.
Here's a good satellite picture of Washington courtesy of google.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Washin...8680&t=k&hl=en
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That's a good link. If you to the link, make sure you zoom out 3 times in order to get enough of the landmarks in the picture. If you look closely, you'll be able to make it out. You should also be able to make out the Triple Tau below the pentacle and to the right.
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Old 05-03-2005, 07:39 PM
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I di'nt say it was a good thing. Unh uh...no I di'nt.
I mentioned that because often times a person can be more easily discredited if they are writing in oposition of something. This guy let everyone in on the secret because he was proud.
Is the architecture bad? In my opinion it ain't good as far as why, when, where, and who was involved in it's erection.
ooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTT...here.. .
here you go. Sorry for camping.
oops! my bad. Thanx fer sharing. :-P
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