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Old 06-26-2007, 01:52 PM
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Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Sun revolves around the Earth.

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Old 06-26-2007, 01:57 PM
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Do you believe everything that is written in the BIBLE?
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:40 PM
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Not being a theologian, I will pass on that question.

The point in this case is not what the Bible says; rather what it doesn't say.

Joshua commanded the Sun to be still, implying it was previously in motion without saying where it is going. Anyone who believes the Sun revolves around Earth is putting words in the Bible that are not there.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:19 PM
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Quote:
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Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Sun revolves around the Earth.
That's not quite correct.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:22 PM
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roscoe wrote:
Not being a theologian, I will pass on that question.

The point in this case is not what the Bible says; rather what it doesn't say.

Joshua commanded the Sun to be still, implying it was previously in motion without saying where it is going. Anyone who believes the Sun revolves around Earth is putting words in the Bible that are not there.
Sixty-Seven Scriptural References

Which Tell Us That It Is The Sun

And Not The Earth That Moves


Genesis 15:12...... "...and when the sun was going down..."

15:17..... "...when the sun went down..."

19:23..... "The sun was risen upon the earth."

28:11..... "...because the sun was set...."

32:31..... "...the sun rose...."


Exodus 17:12..... "...until the going down of the sun...."

22:3...... "...if the sun be risen upon him...."

22:26.... "...the sun goeth down...."


Leviticus 22:7...... "...And when the sun is down...."


Numbers 2:3........ "...toward the rising of the sun...."


Deuteronomy 11:30..... "...the way where the sun goeth down...."

16:6....... "...at the going down of the sun...."

23:11..... "...when the sun is down...."

24:13..... "...when the sun goeth down...."

24:15..... "...neither shall the sun go down...."


Joshua 1:4..... "...the going down of the sun...."

8:29... "...as soon as the sun was down...."

10:12.. "...Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon...."

10:13.. "...and the sun stood still...."

10:27.. "...the time of the going down of the sun...."

12:1.... "...toward the rising of the sun...."


Judges 5:31.... "...as the sun when he goeth down...."

8:13.... "...before the sun was up...."

9:33.... "...as soon as the sun is up...."

14:18.... "...before the sun went down...."

19:14.... "...and the sun went down...."


II Samuel 2:24.... "...the sun went down...."

3:35.... "...till the sun be down...."

23:4..... "...when the sun riseth...."


I Kings 22:36.... "...the going down of the sun...."


I Chronicles 16:30.... "...the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved...."

II Chronicles 18:34.... "...time of the sun going down...."


Job 9:7.... "...commandeth the sun and it riseth not...."

Job 26:7.... "...He hangeth the earth upon nothing...."


Psalm 19:4.... "...tabernacle for the sun...."

19:5 ... "...cometh out to run...."

19:6.... "...goes forth in a circle from one end of heaven to the other...."

50:1.... "...from the rising of the sun...."

93:1.... "...the world also is stablished that it cannot be moved...."

104:19.. "...the sun knoweth his going down...."

104:22.. "...the sun ariseth...."

113:3.... "...from the rising of the sun...."


Ecclesiastes 1:5.... "...The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down

and hasteth to the place where he arose...."


Isaiah 13:10.... "...sun shall be darkened in his going...."

38:8...... "...is gone down on the sundial of Ahaz...."

38:8...... "...so the sun returned...."

41:25.... "...from the rising of the sun...."

45:6...... "...from the rising of the sun...."

59:19.... "...from the rising of the sun...."

60:20.... "...the sun shall no more go down...."


Jeremiah 15:9.... "...her sun is gone down while it was yet day...."


Daniel 6:14.... "...going down of the sun...."


Amos 8:9.... "...cause the sun to go down at noon...."


Jonah 4:8.... "...when the sun did arise...."


Micah 3:6.... "...and the sun shall go down...."


Nahum 3:17.... "...when the sun ariseth...."


Habakkuk 3:11.... "...the sun and moon stood still in their habitation...."


Malachi 1:11.... "...from the rising of the sun...."


Matthew 5:45.... "...for He maketh His sun to rise...."

13:6..... "...and when the sun was up...."


Mark 1:32.... "...when the sun did set...."

4:6...... "...when the sun was up...."

16:2...... "...at the rising of the sun...."


Luke 4:40.... "...when the sun was setting...."


Ephesians 4:26.... "...let not the sun go down upon your wrath...."


James 1:11.... "...for the sun is no sooner risen...."




That is a Total of 67 Verses from the Bible Which Say

that It Is the Sun that Moves and Not the Earth!

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# of Verses from the Bible Which Say

that It Is the Earth that Moves and Not the Sun:


0

***********************


http://www.fixedearth.com/sixty-seven%20references.htm
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:25 AM
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The Sun and Earth are BOTH in motion; why are you putting words in my mouth by asserting that I have denied the Sun being in motion. The Sun being in motion doesn't establish it as going around the Earth; it is going somewhere else.

This is where Pythagoras, Copernicus and Galileo were wrong; they tried to say that the Sun was stationary AND in the center of the Universe.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Earth is stationary, nor does it say that the Sun revolves around the Earth therefore we need not believe it.

The Earth being the center of the Universe is a different question that Holy Church interprets in a spiritual nature.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:34 AM
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Quote:
redrat11 wrote:
Quote:
roscoe wrote:
Not being a theologian, I will pass on that question.

The point in this case is not what the Bible says; rather what it doesn't say.

Joshua commanded the Sun to be still, implying it was previously in motion without saying where it is going. Anyone who believes the Sun revolves around Earth is putting words in the Bible that are not there.
Sixty-Seven Scriptural References

Which Tell Us That It Is The Sun

And Not The Earth That Moves


Genesis 15:12...... "...and when the sun was going down..."

15:17..... "...when the sun went down..."

19:23..... "The sun was risen upon the earth."

28:11..... "...because the sun was set...."

32:31..... "...the sun rose...."


Exodus 17:12..... "...until the going down of the sun...."

22:3...... "...if the sun be risen upon him...."

22:26.... "...the sun goeth down...."


Leviticus 22:7...... "...And when the sun is down...."


Numbers 2:3........ "...toward the rising of the sun...."


Deuteronomy 11:30..... "...the way where the sun goeth down...."

16:6....... "...at the going down of the sun...."

23:11..... "...when the sun is down...."

24:13..... "...when the sun goeth down...."

24:15..... "...neither shall the sun go down...."


Joshua 1:4..... "...the going down of the sun...."

8:29... "...as soon as the sun was down...."

10:12.. "...Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon...."

10:13.. "...and the sun stood still...."

10:27.. "...the time of the going down of the sun...."

12:1.... "...toward the rising of the sun...."


Judges 5:31.... "...as the sun when he goeth down...."

8:13.... "...before the sun was up...."

9:33.... "...as soon as the sun is up...."

14:18.... "...before the sun went down...."

19:14.... "...and the sun went down...."


II Samuel 2:24.... "...the sun went down...."

3:35.... "...till the sun be down...."

23:4..... "...when the sun riseth...."


I Kings 22:36.... "...the going down of the sun...."


I Chronicles 16:30.... "...the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved...."

II Chronicles 18:34.... "...time of the sun going down...."


Job 9:7.... "...commandeth the sun and it riseth not...."

Job 26:7.... "...He hangeth the earth upon nothing...."


Psalm 19:4.... "...tabernacle for the sun...."

19:5 ... "...cometh out to run...."

19:6.... "...goes forth in a circle from one end of heaven to the other...."

50:1.... "...from the rising of the sun...."

93:1.... "...the world also is stablished that it cannot be moved...."

104:19.. "...the sun knoweth his going down...."

104:22.. "...the sun ariseth...."

113:3.... "...from the rising of the sun...."


Ecclesiastes 1:5.... "...The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down

and hasteth to the place where he arose...."


Isaiah 13:10.... "...sun shall be darkened in his going...."

38:8...... "...is gone down on the sundial of Ahaz...."

38:8...... "...so the sun returned...."

41:25.... "...from the rising of the sun...."

45:6...... "...from the rising of the sun...."

59:19.... "...from the rising of the sun...."

60:20.... "...the sun shall no more go down...."


Jeremiah 15:9.... "...her sun is gone down while it was yet day...."


Daniel 6:14.... "...going down of the sun...."


Amos 8:9.... "...cause the sun to go down at noon...."


Jonah 4:8.... "...when the sun did arise...."


Micah 3:6.... "...and the sun shall go down...."


Nahum 3:17.... "...when the sun ariseth...."


Habakkuk 3:11.... "...the sun and moon stood still in their habitation...."


Malachi 1:11.... "...from the rising of the sun...."


Matthew 5:45.... "...for He maketh His sun to rise...."

13:6..... "...and when the sun was up...."


Mark 1:32.... "...when the sun did set...."

4:6...... "...when the sun was up...."

16:2...... "...at the rising of the sun...."


Luke 4:40.... "...when the sun was setting...."


Ephesians 4:26.... "...let not the sun go down upon your wrath...."


James 1:11.... "...for the sun is no sooner risen...."




That is a Total of 67 Verses from the Bible Which Say

that It Is the Sun that Moves and Not the Earth!

*******************


# of Verses from the Bible Which Say

that It Is the Earth that Moves and Not the Sun:


0

***********************


http://www.fixedearth.com/sixty-seven%20references.htm
This has to do with the point of reference. The Bible is writen for humans residing on earth, therefore if you are standing on earth your point of reference will make you think that you are stationary while the sun is moving. In reality, it is the earth that is moving and taking you for a ride.

The bible did not try to mislead, it's just that the maths were not fully developed at the time, plus hardly anyone would have understood them anyway.

Now if the bible was writen for humans residing on Mars or even Uranus, it would have to be have been revised to explain how the earth revolved around the sun.

The problem with people taking what is said literaly is that they really don't understand what the true message is.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:38 AM
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The Earth being the center of the Universe is a different question that Holy Church interprets in a spiritual nature.
roscoe,

As I have said, people that try to put a literal meaning to the words (and translated words at that) have no understanding of the true message.

In fact, they are most likely unbelievers, even the ones that hide behind the Bible.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:57 PM
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Shadow; it is a mistake to leave out the fact that the Sun is in motion also. This was one of the mistakes of Copernicus and Galileo.

Hiding behind the Bible=BIBLIOLATRY.


redrat; I understand that there are no Bible passages that say the Earth is moving. On the other hand, there are no Bible passages that say that it is NOT.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:46 PM
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Roscoe,...Shadow...


What I will write here I hope can Enlighten the subject at hand a bit. (Is the Earth Moving?)

To answer that question a person first has to have some sort of rational thought based on the visible perceptions we see around us daily.

Im not a theologian nor a scientist, however both of those professions, I doubt could answer the subject at hand with clarity. (except possibly the original creator of the website The Earth is Not Moving.)

Here's what I'm trying to convey, When a Prosecutor/Lawyer prepares a case let's say against a thief,(just for argument's sake here.)

Does not the Prosecutor professionally prepare and document a CASE against the defendant? This means getting eyewitnesses, incriminating evidence, motive, and other necessary documentation to PROVE the case.

Now take that analogy and transfer it to our reality around us, (the world at hand) depending on your beliefs (GOD or no GOD) does not this world at hand lead you to believe that something is very, very, not right? And I don't mean to say that GOD (which I believe exist as the creator of this world) is responsible for the conditions of this world today. What I mean to convey is that the world as we see it, is and has been TEMPORARILY overtaken by Rebellious Angels led by Satan/Lucifer if you will.

Those who deny that GOD exist will say that Man is ultimate ruler, that humanity can do better without a "GOD," to those I say NO!

Therefore a person who believes in GOD can easily come to a conclusion that the Whole world is being manipulated, How else can you explain all the Evil in the world? And what does this have to do with wether the Earth is Moving or not?

Answer: It has everything to do with trusting the truth, the GOD of the Bible, the CREATOR of the world, thus as the subject of the Earth and whether it is moving or not becomes very clear, and as you read more and more into the conspiracy to "dethrone" the GOD of the BIBLE, and his very words, then everything begins to make more and more sense.

That is why I personally don't believe anything the scientific community, nor the "controlled-religous establishment" has to say on this subject, and as far as the perceptions of everybody on this subject, I say it depends on your personal belief system, DO YOU BELIEVE WHAT THIS WORLD SATANIC SYSTEM (Remember Temporary Satanic System) ask's you to believe? I don't, I believe what the GOD of the Bible says, and of course there are many "Satanic Versions" and "Satanic Religions" who claim to be GOD followers, however it is up to the individual to find the truth out there somewhere. :-o


The truth is here!

read it!

http://www.fixedearth.com/
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