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Old 03-17-2005, 05:43 AM
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Mary,

I do thank God too, for in the midst of all this mess, He has been faithful to His word and I have never missed anything.

The problem we face now is that, even though we never get a loan or buy on credit, the government will make the debt for you and make your children pay for it in taxes. No escape...

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Old 03-17-2005, 06:30 AM
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My friends from rich First World countries...
you are just beginning to feel what is like to be ripped off by the bankers and government. Here in Brazil we know it firsthand. People have 10 times less income than in the US. 10 times !
All the money the government takes from us goes to the IMF bankers. It has been like this since the 1800s, when Brazil got into debt with ...guess who...England.

They always find traitors of our country who will sell the people`s wealth for a condo in Miami and an account in Switzerland. Do you know who is the president of our Central Bank ? Meirelles, who used to be CEO of Fleet / Bank Boston ! The former minister of economy used to be a sidekick of Soros !

And the president of Brazil says he is a socialist ! They are ALL in the same side, i.e., against us.

So, don`t complain about your situation...you need at least 50 years of exploitation to go down to our level. (sigh...)
Saturnino, thanks for your message. I agree. But listen, working class US citizens are just hanging by a thread these days. Evene though this is the riches country in the world. If the government were to take away the material things and their home, they have nothing in their pockets or just a couple of hundred bucks in the bank. But still I know what you are saying. We have more opportunities here, and not between a rock and a hard place--yet!!

US middle class to poor are not prepared in anyway to survive if such a thing were to happen. Who is? Most are not creative, not able to economize effectively. I hate to say that!
And that is because they feel that everything they have---they actually need. But then you have those that do not have the fancy material gadgets and gizmos. They only know this type of life, but masquerade in an everyday "everything's fine" costume.


I for one do not want "50 years" of exploitation.
Though at times I'm treated like sh-t in the country I was born in. I have no value here, and that's another story! Many, many people feel they are not needed, they can be replaced.
At times, I look back and say, that for someone born in this country of parents who came with only a hundred bucks in their pocket, I am lucky.

But then again I say-----"for now"!!
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Old 03-17-2005, 03:31 PM
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What keeps this country together is basically 2 things:

1) food is extremely cheap. Nobody starves in Brazil, not even the most miserable person. People are generous and they help each other.

Our socialist/globalist president is working in a hoax and a lie called Fome Zero, (Zero Hunger) , and says he will give food to all Brazil. The liar has not given anything to anyone, it is just one more way to give a number and an ID chip card to people and let the money be stolen by government. Now he says the UN should have a global tax for eliminating hunger...beware !!!

2) family still matters. Unemployed people are simply going to live in the back of the house of the parents, uncle, etc. They share whatever they have and life goes on.

I fear for the US because 1 and 2 doesn`t apply for you. When things get rough, a banana will still cost you 1 dollar, not 5 cents like here. And family ties are weak in the US.

But even in Brazil the globalists are finding ways to destroy this last salvation in times of crisis...they raise up the property taxes, they privatize water and light, they tax the food, so even your parents won`t be able to help you anymore. In Bolivia, the globalists tried to tax the RAIN WATER ! (huge reaction) What are slums (favelas) if not houses of people who can`t pay property taxes ? They also steal the electricity.

That`s a vision of the future...a huge favela, and everybody with their dole ID cards.
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Old 04-09-2005, 09:20 PM
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The Federal Reserve Bank is not part of the U.S. Government and never has been...It is a Private Corporation, major shareholders of which are some of the larger financial institutions like Morgan Stanley, larger shareholders of Morgan Stanley are Banks of England, ie Lazard Brothers, Rothschild etc. Not to mention numerous ties between members of the boards of these institutions. Many board members are also involved in secret societies which we all know about or have heard of. But the main point I wanted to make, because I noticed some in this thread are unaware, that the US has a central bank type of system like most other countries in the world. In the US it is called The Federal Reserve and Americans are led to believe that it is their government which prints the cash...uh uh...the gov issues bonds (promise to pay back) and the fed prints the money right off a press, they exchange money for bonds, Then the fed charges interest on the money owed. In Canada we passed the Bank Act in 1911 or so, the U.S.A. passed a similar act giving away their power to print money to the bankers. Therefore the government has no power except what the bankers give the nod to.
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Old 04-10-2005, 04:26 PM
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So, don`t complain about your situation...you need at least 50 years of exploitation to go down to our level. (sigh...)
"!![/quote] I'm thinkin' within the next five years, easilly. Look how weak the dollar is now and how many manufacturing/engineering jobs exist in India and China. :-P
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Old 07-03-2005, 09:49 AM
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Good job Paris..

I was gonna reply something to that line..but you beat me to it..

Unfortunalty you missed one thing..
you said "Then the fed charges interest on the money owed." thats not correct..

whats owed ?

YOU ALL NEED TO RESEARCH MONEY !!
YOU ALL NEED TO RESEARCH THE CONSTITUTION !!

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Old 07-03-2005, 09:53 AM
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politly speaking..you are slightly mistaken TrueB.

Research more ..

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Old 07-04-2005, 11:34 AM
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It's been my strong opinion for some time that theres no rift in the NWO and that China is a complete creation of the West.

It lives and dies with Western Capital and therefore is under Western Capital control.

Here is a news article which exemplifies this...
http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=10759&TagID=2

How does China benefit from U.S corps bringing in jobs when there will be no one to sell the goods too?

If the U.S goes down...EVERYBODY goes down which is EXACTLY what 'they' want.

Lots of chaos...lots of Police State crack downs.

Which is why the Elite are pouring into Australia and New Zealand. They know the jigs up.

An awful lot of Israeli/Jewish immigration down here to.

The great shame is it does'nt have to be. If the U.S defaults...so what? The wheat is still in the fields, the car you brought on credit will not spontaneously combust...the Japs cant tow Manhatten back to Tokyo harbour so...so what?

Money and the so called 'economy' is just an idea. Nothing more. When the money goes...so what?

Of course it will not be 'so what' for alot of people at the bottom.

Get with friends and family and form communities. Barter and get ready to work for your daily bread. Ideally get some property or at least get a garden going. Pull out those ridiculous palm tree's and get some potato's and tomatoes happining.

With enough people involved and a good quantity of ammunition you should be able to ride it out. :-?

Of course it may not come to that and they may just back off.

Remember all that we need to live well is available in spades...money only eases the transfer of goods and services between people...it is a means not the end...find another means.

In the end we are all about to find out just how much we really need each other. By getting to know your neighbour your increase your chances of doing well in the possible chaos to come.

If we turn into beasts out for ourselves the little slimy bastards have won.

Europe/EurAsia are king. The Americas are to be farms, forests and mines. Why do you think exploitable resources are off limits?
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The NWO's elite~!
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