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Old 09-18-2006, 07:35 PM
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I look forward to the unravelling of WW2.:-)

TB, I read with great interest your response on Hitler, and I must say, you make more sense now that you at least AGREE Hitler was Satanic, with that said, I've always trusted this gemtlemans website with respect to WW2 history.

http://members.iinet.com.au/~gduncan/massacres_axis.html

When we analyze what really happened to the Jews during WW2, (and I'm aware of other threads on this forum related to the HOLOHOAX) I notice that not one person has bothered to write about the ATROCITIES Jews committed after their "liberation" by the Allies, this "hidden history" is worthy of some investigation would'nt you say?

http://members.iinet.com.au/~gduncan/

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Old 09-18-2006, 11:14 PM
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TB, I read with great interest your response on Hitler, and I must say, you make more sense now that you at least AGREE Hitler was Satanic, with that said, I've always trusted this gemtlemans website with respect to WW2 history.
Satanic? If that means he garbed himself in black and sat around Pentagrams with Himmler then I dont agree. You'll never see Hitler dressed in black. The SS was ALL Himmlers doing as were his Thule society connections and love of converting castles into Pagan ritual sites. Also with regards Himmler...he was demanding the planting of herb gardens in Auswitz to ensure adequate vitamin and mineral intake of the inmates.:-) Being the mad killer that he was.:-)

I dont buy the arguments that Hitler was involved with "German Death Cults". I know Italian Mafia people...does that make me Mafia? :-)

With what i've read so far I see Hitler as tolerant and amused by the views of some of those around him but not nescessarily deeply involved.

Hitler was SPECIFICALLY a "Luciferian/Rationalist". He loved the intellect of man, especially his own and worshipped the "age of reason". Hitler would fit in perfectly with todays corporate warrior, lap top in tow with an Excel Spreadsheet handy sporting a "beautiful set of numbers" to explain how the war will be won.

Hitler was a puppet of a combination of European/U.K Royalty and Banking families financing things through Wall Street and the Rockerfella's via the German/American Company "I.G Farbin". Thats English for "Community Of Interests".

It's interesting to note that ALL of the initial financing of Hitler came through I.G Farbin who had a heavy involvement with Rockefella and J.P Morgan (therefore Rothschild). Not one cent flowed from such noted German companies as Krupp and Siemens who i've read were openly hostile to Nazi ideology. At first anyway.

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When we analyze what really happened to the Jews during WW2, (and I'm aware of other threads on this forum related to the HOLOHOAX) I notice that not one person has bothered to write about the ATROCITIES Jews committed after their "liberation" by the Allies, this "hidden history" is worthy of some investigation would'nt you say?

http://members.iinet.com.au/~gduncan/
I like the guys site. Very good and a local too me to boot! I might try to get in touch with him.

I note the history of attempts on Hitlers life. He claims 19, i've read over 30. Hitler was either directly in touch with a gaurdian angel of some type (possible, Hitler had a definaite 6th sense) or I'd sware he was being protected some way...maybe through Goerings contacts with European Royalty and their contacts with just about every body including British Intelligence. It's also intersting to note Hitlers use of a 19 pound tungstan carbide "peak cap" to ward off the assassins bullet fro0m long range and from above.

Then theirs Goering. He was giving away invasion times to Belgium Royalty and generally mouthing off that Hitlers was .."always risking everything". (According to Hitlers Adjutant in a doco I saw).

I think Goering was less than loyal to Hitler. I dont buy all the "Ultra Intercepts" stuff and Enigma machine stories with British boffins riding around in gas masks to cover their hay fever while being brilliant and eccentric at the same time. If they could break Ultra so easily and decode WHOLE battle plans within 24 hours why were they having so much trouble with the German Naval Codes? Why did they go to so much effort to get their hands on one by boarding a German sub? Easy...the code books WERE at sea and Goering and his friends at the German High Command could NOT get their hands easily on one.

We note that when Manstein did his brilliant "backhand manouver" on the Russians near Kursk (this was BEFORE the famous Kursk tank battles), stopping them in their tracks and wiping them out...it was done "locally" with no input from Hitler and the "Wolfs Lair". Therefore their was NO CHANCE for the OKW/OKH spyring to get the plans off to who had to know.

Allen Dulles (OSS - then to become CIA) was in Switzerland at this time and it was said he was in charge of the "Lucy Spy Ring" spying at the HIGHEST levels of the German High Command. Later people speculated that this was a cover for the "Ultra Intercepts" and Enigma code breaking. I say it was a REAL spyring run perhaps through General Canaris with involvment from Goering. This is how the German Land Army was defeated and why the Allies had SO MUCH trouble getting at German naval codes. They did'nt have anyone spying their for them! Only later with the development of narrow band radar that could pick up U-Boat peroscopes and increased long range air patrolling were the German Wolf Packs subdued.

David Irving states this is unlikely as there is NO document where someone states that they believe someone is spying at the highest levels of the German armed forces. I find that a little nieve.:-) Given the huge number of assassination attempts, the prevelance of "Prussian Freemasonry" and Goerings well known treason and Royalty connections...why is it so hard to believe? The British are renoun for their subterfuge and European connections so whats the problem?:-)
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Old 09-18-2006, 11:17 PM
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REDRAT11...thanks for the kind words by the way.:-)
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Old 09-19-2006, 10:02 PM
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Satanic? If that means he garbed himself in black and sat around Pentagrams with Himmler then I dont agree. You'll never see Hitler dressed in black. The SS was ALL Himmlers doing as were his Thule society connections and love of converting castles into Pagan ritual sites. Also with regards Himmler...he was demanding the planting of herb gardens in Auswitz to ensure adequate vitamin and mineral intake of the inmates.:-) Being the mad killer that he was.:-)

I dont buy the arguments that Hitler was involved with "German Death Cults". I know Italian Mafia people...does that make me Mafia? :-)



Hitler was SPECIFICALLY a "Luciferian/Rationalist". He loved the intellect of man, especially his own and worshipped the "age of reason". Hitler would fit in perfectly with todays corporate warrior, lap top in tow with an Excel Spreadsheet handy sporting a "beautiful set of numbers" to explain how the war will be won.




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When we analyze what really happened to the Jews during WW2, (and I'm aware of other threads on this forum related to the HOLOHOAX) I notice that not one person has bothered to write about the ATROCITIES Jews committed after their "liberation" by the Allies, this "hidden history" is worthy of some investigation would'nt you say?

http://members.iinet.com.au/~gduncan/
I like the guys site. Very good and a local too me to boot! I might try to get in touch with him.

I note the history of attempts on Hitlers life. He claims 19, i've read over 30. Hitler was either directly in touch with a gaurdian angel of some type (possible, Hitler had a definaite 6th sense) or I'd sware he was being protected



You know TB, I think my "Lens of History" is way different than yours, I simply look at things purely from a BIBLICAL perspective, for example. with all that's going on in the world today, I view purely that what I see is nothing more than the Bible being "layed out" before my eyes, thus, all the SATANIC players of the ILLUMINATI, if you want to call them that, are simply doing as they're told to do (or else!) I know that alot of these ILLUMINIST lackeys from reading real history books, will simply be EXECUTED on the spot. Edward Gibbons MONUMENTAL Book I believe its called the History of the World,( I'm sure that's the wrong title of the book) But he lays out what is basically COMMON SENSE in these matters, and that is that SATANIC PEOPLE are carrying out the last days plan as they want it proceed.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to put a good face on this Hitler character, and that's your right, I simply see the man as a satanic brainwashed fool! nothing more nothing less.

Every website on HITLER seems to confirm my beliefs, I realize the "lamestream media" is utterly RUBBISH, but come on the NET seems to verify my feelings on the man, as well as BILLIONS of other folk. can the NET be wrong?

http://www.cephas-library.com/nwo_satanism_of_hitler.html

P.S. By the way TB, you realize even the great DR. Makow confirms that Hitler was Satanic, I simply don't understand your "rationalization" of Hitler being a LUCEFERIAN RATIONALIST please explain the difference? (if you already did'nt already) THX.

Hitlers Satanism...

http://www.crystalinks.com/thule.html
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:44 AM
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You know TB, I think my "Lens of History" is way different than yours, I simply look at things purely from a BIBLICAL perspective, for example. with all that's going on in the world today, I view purely that what I see is nothing more than the Bible being "layed out" before my eyes, thus, all the SATANIC players of the ILLUMINATI, if you want to call them that, are simply doing as they're told to do (or else!)
We are simply defining terms. I consider someone "Satanic" when they worship Satan. A Satanist BELIEVES in God AND SATAN and simply picks Satan. It's really that simple.

A "Luciferian" is quite different. I could not give you a definate term but Luciferians believe mostly in their own intellect and concepts such as the "age of reason". They deny absoloutly anything not within the range of the 5 senses. They deny "feeling" and would rather play their Playstation than relate to other human beings. They have a love of technology and above all POWER! Hitler was not about to worship Satan who he would consider a threat to his own personal power.

You can say the whole NWO thing is satanic and you are right. It is the desire of Satan to rule the Earth without Gods presence. A pretty silly thing to do when you think about it.:-) Even for satan.

But a Luciferian does'nt believe in God OR Satan...again, he worships himself and to be honest that includes Hitler and just about EVERYONE I know.:-)

Just because Hitler fits the "Luciferian" description well does'nt mean he fits it perfectly. He used to say after all, according to insiders around him..."I am basing my religion on Parsifal. Only when a man takes on the mantle of hero can he do the will of God". Hitler actually mentions God alot...i'm just not sure which one?:-)

If Hitler was openly Satanic then we would see alot of mindless destruction by him and pentagrams. Before you laugh, remember it was the allied bombing campaign that laid waste to Germany and extended the war for 5 long years. Hitler used destruction for specific aims and then stopped. Hitler was a lover of architecture and art (NOT expressionist art) and was well versed in ancient history and religion.

Are you going to say then that this man was an open Satanist? By any definition he was your typical beauracrat and numbers man with a vision for Germany which included the whithering of Christianity and the worship of reason over blind faith. Hitler was not about to start worshipping "Wotan" the ancient German version of the greek God Mars...Hitler worshipped himself and his own will. Consider this well known statement by Hitler to his generals shortyly after the French campaign and I beleieve just before the invasion of the Soviet Union..."[paraphrasing] the final nail is my own will. Without my person it will all fail". Meaning he believed himself TOTALLY irraplaceable.

I might also add that Hitler was ACTUALLY worshipped by many Germans meaning they actually prayed TO him, NOT for him. Hitler was like Pharoe..a virtual God on earth and NOT someone worshipping the "evil one"...catch my drift?

Note also the Scribes and Pharisees who make the Laws of God "of none effect". They too want to worship reason. They too want to be little gods on earth making laws up from the Rothschild built Supreme Court in Jerusalem.

Their is a big difference between wanton destruction like the Bolsheviks and the desire for "fine art and culture" mimiking ancient greece and Rome where ONE MAN can become Emporer or perhaps head of a powerful central government?

I dont fear satanists. I fear Luciferian/Rationalists who consider themselves above ANYTHING but their own intellects which can come up with all sorts of brilliant ways to bring a utopian paradise on earth no matter the cost. The end justifies the means and if a luciferian like Robert McNamara has to plan a bombing campaign in East Asia that will leave 3 million Vietnamese dead then so be it.


Does this man look like the devil incarnate?

Watch "The Fog Of War". In this doco McNamara details his role in the implimintation and planning of the firebombing to death of 1 million Japanses civilians. Then he details his role in the bombing to death of a further 2-3 million Vietnamese civilians. Lets also remember his role along with General Limnitzer in the firebombing of Germany that sent 600,000 German civilians to their deaths.

Do you think this man rapes little children over pentagrams chanting praises to the evil one? Gauranteed some do, but people like this who have the blood of MILLIONS on their hands will not be found in pagan castles hanging out with former chook farmers like Heinrich Himmler.

I meet luciferian rationalists ALL THE TIME...the father who ignores his childrens needs because he wants to watch the footy. The man who ignores his wife and complains of her "emotions". The man who will sacrifice love for monetary reward and a promotion. The list goes on.:-)

Hitler was a man to be admired in small measure for standing up to the dominant power of the day..."Political Zionism". It's still with us stronger than ever. Only adherence to the Christian faith and the Commandments of Christ will save us and prevent us from falling so far from Grace we end up becoming agents of evil rather than peace. :-)
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Fact 1 : Hitler was possibly the strongest oponent of the so-called "New World Order" history has known. As a consequence, WW2 was started by the English with the explicit purpose of destroying Hitler's national-socialist system and everything it stood for.

Fact 2 : Loads of anti-NWO literature was published in the Third Reich, some of very high quality.

Fact 3 : Although it is unclear who exactly was the father of Alois Hiedler, it is unlikely that it was a Rothschild.

Fact 4 : The Third Reich is now the most hated regime in the world, largely because of a sort of horror propaganda common for both the British and the Sovjets.

Fact 5 : Although Himmler, Rosenberg and Hess were very interested in Germanic paganism and occultism, Hitler didn't have any interest in that and has always been a staunch supporter of the separation of church and state.

Fact 6 : There is no evidence of connections between high level NSDAP members and the Thule Society. In fact, the Thule Society was declared illegal in the Third Reich along with various other societies that had an interest in the occult. Karl Maria Wiligut was one of the rare exceptions because he was under the protestion of Himmler, who was inspired by Wiligut for his SS mythology.

Fact 7 : Back in Hitler's days, the old elite and the new elite hadn't joined forces yet. If Hitler did indeed receive funds from the Rockefeller's and the Bush's (the old elite), it was because they saw him as a possible ally against the new elite (of which a significant part was Jewish). It is only since the failure of the New Deal that the old and new elite joined forces.



My conclusion : it is very unlikely that Hitler was a British agent.
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