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Old 12-26-2006, 07:53 PM
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Now I do believe you are a Hamsters toy. Filled with tonkar dung, could be.

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You are a dino bore, for you turd they aint no word.
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Old 12-27-2006, 10:29 AM
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You're the turd that shadow dropped.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:33 AM
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1. Nature of dinosaur discoveries - only within the last 150 years and in huge unusual concentrated quantities going against the laws of nature and probability.
Before the 1800s, anthropology barely existed as a science. That's the reason why we know little about earlier discoveries. Also, it is likely that bones that were discovered before the 1800s were attributed to mythological figures like "dragons".

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2. Nature of dinosaur discoverers and excavators - not by (initially) disinterested parties. When discovered by parties without a vested interest, they need to be told by dinosaur experts that they are dinosaur bones.
Most people are just stupid.

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3. Nature of public display preparation - integrity and source of fossils - possible tampering and bone substitution and possible fraudulent activities on a massive scale.
It definitely happened on a small scale, but I know of no evidence of large scale fraud.

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4. Existing artistic drawings and public exhibits showing off-balance and awkward postures that basic physics would rule out as being possible.
Examples please.

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5. Very low odds of all these dinosaur bones being fossilized but not the bones of other animals.
Please elaborate.

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6. Implications of dinosaur discoveries to the theory of evolution and the belief that man was created in God's image, suggesting possible hidden and subtle political or religious agendas served on a naive and unsuspecting public.
Even creationist Kent Hovind doesn't argue against the existence of dinosaurs. In fact, he uses so-called evidence of man's co-existence with dinosaurs for his arguments that the world is just a few thousand years old.

Anyway, I see no reason why the existence of dinosaurs would be necessary to promote evolution as a scientific theory.

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7. A lack of organizations and people questioning or being skeptical of each and every discovery and public display. Dinosaurs are popular.
A lack of criticism could simply imply that there is little reason to criticise.
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Old 10-02-2008, 05:10 AM
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Alltough you do bring up some good points I seriously doubt that dinosaurs are hoax. I could rather believe that aliens are completely hoaxed becauses that is just sipmly stupid in my opinion when you think logicaly all alien stories don't make sense.

Anyway I recommend you to read michael cremo's work he has overwhelming evidence that human being have been around here for millions of years since the dawn of history and that the scientific community is basicaly covering this up to promote their stupid evoltion theory. Evolutions therory now thats a hoax just do research and you will realize how incredibly stupid it is and it makes you wander why so many people believe in it.

Michael cremo also found evidence that we have been around dinosaurs there are so much evidence for that but whenever someone presents it he ends being fired banned from his university and is carreer is completly destroyed. Dinosaurs aren't a hoax. The fact our civilized culture is only 5000 years old now thats a hoax.
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:55 AM
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I read this thread and decided to register just to comment on it and this is my first post. I cannot believe some of the comments made here and I'd love to get a debate going with this rushdoonie (or whatever it is) guy - are you still a member?

I loved his hypocrisy, bringing up valid points about believeing in something without 100% proof etc. I agree with his technique for finding fault in the existance of dinosaurs, very scientist-like I thought. If he were an atheist I could almost start to believe him but oh my.....when it was obvious this was all about scientists and their lies to cover up the existance of a Christian God I laughed out loud. Talk about contradicting yourself! There's substantially less evidence about God (any deity for that matter) than dinosars!

Please still be an active member, I want to debate you!
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:54 PM
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The following issues raise red flags as to the integrity of the dinosaur industry and cast doubts as to whether dinosaurs ever existed.

1. Nature of dinosaur discoveries - only within the last 150 years and in huge unusual concentrated quantities going against the laws of nature and probability.
Actually, peoples around the world have been finding occasional deposits of ancient fossils for centuries, but it is only since we started heavy excavations for minerals because of the industrial revolution that the number of finds has increased. Carving roadcuts, mine shafts, and other normally unrelated activities often turn up deposits of fossils. Also, the process by which a fossil is formed happens only in the rarest of circumstances. Generally a flash flood or other calamity has to was the creatures into a body of water where sedimentation can take place, so its understandable as to why the finds are concentrated to only certain areas
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2. Nature of dinosaur discoverers and excavators - not by (initially) disinterested parties. When discovered by parties without a vested interest, they need to be told by dinosaur experts that they are dinosaur bones.
Well, many finds are accomplished by amateurs all the time. One just happened here in colorado recently where 2 kids found a mastodon skeleton, correctly identified it, and are getting credit in the literature.
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3. Nature of public display preparation - integrity and source of fossils - possible tampering and bone substitution and possible fraudulent activities on a massive scale.
Certainly mistakes are made in reconstructions, as in the apatasaurus pelvis being pointed the wrong way, but like everything else these things are peer reviewed and I seriously doubt there is a conspiracy of ten of thousands pf paleontologists going on.
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4. Existing artistic drawings and public exhibits showing off-balance and awkward postures that basic physics would rule out as being possible.
Certainly some dinosaurs have very awkward postures due to their immense bulk, but it is actually the understanding of physics that is improving our modeling of how these creatures walked and lived.
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5. Very low odds of all these dinosaur bones being fossilized but not the bones of other animals.
Actually, we do find other animals besides dinosaurs preserved right along side their giant cousins. Part of this perception is that the dinos hog the spotlight (and the grant money) while the lesser creatures pass un-noticed. Also, the bulk of the dinosaurs bones lends them to preservation much better than the smaller creatures, but the smaller ones are found just the same.
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6. Implications of dinosaur discoveries to the theory of evolution and the belief that man was created in God's image, suggesting possible hidden and subtle political or religious agendas served on a naive and unsuspecting public.
Huh? Not going to touch that one
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7. A lack of organizations and people questioning or being skeptical of each and every discovery and public display. Dinosaurs are popular.
So just because they are popular its a conspiracy? Gotcha? Could it be that there is little to be skeptical of?

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Old 10-15-2009, 02:55 PM
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It's definitely yet another distraction from truth, and it makes hella money for the top of the pyramid....

i could see them pulling this hoax off,..as just a distraction and money operation
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The motivation is definately there, vis a vis money, but if this were a criminal court we would also need method and opportunity. It seems with all of the independent research that is going on that somebody would have exposed the hoax by now.
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Old 10-15-2009, 03:46 PM
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on a side note, dinosaurs could somewhat play into the reptilian theory, considering most dinosaurs were just oversized lizards as they portray, popular dinosaur artifacts are T-rex etc., just big ancient lizards.
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