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Old 03-10-2006, 09:49 PM
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Another War for Israel

The amen corner howls for war with Iran

by Justin Raimondo

A prominent public official finally said what we've been saying all along in these pages:

"The U.S. presence in Iraq is hurting the worldwide war on terrorism and benefits only Iran and al-Qaeda, U.S. Rep. John Murtha said on Sunday. 'The only people who want us in Iraq are Iran and al-Qaeda,' Murtha said on CBS's Face the Nation political talk show. 'And I talked to a top-level commander the other day and he said China wants us there also. Why? Because we're depleting our resources … our troop resources and our fiscal resources.'"

Not to worry: Iran, it seems, is next on our hit list, and this is largely at the behest of the one beneficiary of the Iraq war Murtha fails to mention: Israel. The Israelis have been loudly howling for months about the prospect of a nuclear Iran: their amen corner in the U.S. has gone into overdrive, pushing for sanctions and drawing a dire picture of nuke-wielding "mad mullahs."

The world was shocked when Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad threatened to wipe Israel off the map, yet it has to be said that even the maddest mullahs don't imagine nuking Washington, D.C. Iran's nukes, if it ever acquires any – in 10 years' time, like the experts say – will more than likely target Tel Aviv, not Toledo.

Yet in one important sense, at least, the former is just as American as the latter – at least it is in the eyes of American decision-makers, who conduct U.S. foreign policy as if Israel were the 51st state. An outstanding example of this unique symbiosis is the news that the Israelis have penetrated Iran via U.S.-occupied Iraq, with the full complicity and assistance of the Americans:

"Israel's special forces are said to be operating inside Iran in an urgent attempt to locate the country's secret uranium enrichment sites. 'We found several suspected sites last year but there must be more,' an Israeli intelligence source said. They are operating from a base in northern Iraq, guarded by Israeli soldiers with the approval of the Americans, according to Israeli sources."

This sort of scuttlebutt has been knocking around ever since Seymour Hersh first broke the story of Israel's penetration of Kurdistan. The point is that the extension of American power in the Middle East has allowed Tel Aviv's tentacles to slither all the way to the Euphrates and beyond – to Tehran.

The Times of London also reveals that NATO is keen to get in on the act: "multilateralism," i.e., gang-banging, is back in style. This ought to delight the Democrats, who are in some ways ahead of the Republicans (and certainly ahead of the Bush administration) on the Iran issue. Hillary Clinton has done everything but call for declaring war on the mullahs, and House Democratic mis-Leader Nancy Pelosi supported the movement to impose draconian economic sanctions on Iran.

The supposedly "antiwar" Democrats are getting way out ahead of the Bush administration when it comes to Part II of the Great Middle Eastern War. With Hillary's finger on the trigger, the first shots of World War IV are almost certain to be sounded.

The dramatic narrative of the Iranian nuke crisis is going according to a familiar script, one we became well-acquainted with in the run-up to war with Iraq. All the same ingredients of the Iraqi potboiler are being thrown into the mix: a Middle Eastern country ruled by an unattractive tyrant, Israel's partisans furiously beating the drums for war, and "weapons of mass destruction" described by dubious exile groups.

Playing the part of Chalabi, we have the Marxoid-feminist cult of Maryam Rajavi and her army of Amazonian fighters. Ostensibly corralled within the walls of Camp Ashraf in Iraq, these Iranian "freedom fighters" – half of them women – are on the State Department's list of terrorist organizations. Yet I have it on good authority that American visas are being handed out to these burly gals at a fast clip: all they have to do is show up at a U.S. embassy somewhere in the Middle East – say, Istanbul – and they are granted "asylum" in the U.S. They constitute a reserve army ready to spring into action when the time comes to put an Iranian face on an American invasion.

The UN Security Council is slated to discuss the Iranian nuke issue shortly, and the sequence of events – Western demands that Iran cease and desist, followed by angry Iranian refusals – is perfectly suited to war propaganda. As the pace of the narrative picks up and the tension builds, the war drama unfolds according to a by-now-timeworn pattern. It's not the kind of screenplay that usually wins an Academy Award: this is strictly formulaic stuff, designed to give consumers of war propaganda what they need in order to rationalize mass murder. It may be crude – as in the case of Saddam Hussein's alleged ties to al-Qaeda, or tales of WMD hidden beneath Saddam's Babylonian palaces – but it does the job.

Remember how important the nuclear issue was for getting us into the Iraqi quagmire: this time around, the same crew is pushing the same button. A recent poll shows that a clear majority of Americans are willing to risk war in order to stop the Iranians from going nuclear. Invoking the specter of nuclear annihilation is the best way to scare the living daylights out of otherwise thinking people. If the War Party can convince the Americans that the "mad mullahs" are on the brink of having the ability to nuke New York, they will have accomplished their mission.

Some, like Gore Vidal, believe we live in "the United States of Amnesia," and that Americans can't remember what happens from week to week, never mind the lies they told last year and the year before. I respectfully disagree: the people clearly realize they were lied into war, and they aren't happy about it. As to whether they'll let the War Party get away with pulling another fast one, that remains to be seen.

The Republicans, if they are smart, will bet on "no" and back away from the abyss, while the Democrats blithely step off the ledge and invite the rest of the country to come with them. The Bushies are already under fire for going soft on those Ay-rabs with the Dubai port-management brouhaha, and the Democrats show every sign of taking up with alacrity Marshall Wittmann's advice and outflanking the GOP on "national security" issues, i.e., out-warmongering the Republicans.

As the next presidential campaign season looms, the prospect of John McCain and Hillary Clinton going at it mano a mano, in a contest to see who can bluster with a more convincing bellicosity – well, all I can say is that the presidential debates will redefine gender roles for the next hundred years, and it isn't going to be pretty.

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Old 03-11-2006, 10:29 AM
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The whole purpose of elections in this country has been lost. It doesn't matter for whom you vote, national policy just rocks on unabated.

It's like going into a restaurant, being presented with an extensive menu, placing your order and getting the same dish everyone else is getting. The only difference is in the individual who brings it to your table.

The illusion of choice and change is just that, illusion.

We have been brainwashed into thinking, "If you don't vote, don't bitch." Forget it. Vote all you please, nothing is going to change but the people serving up the gruel.

What'll it be today, Sir, Blue Police State Dictatorship or Red Police State Dictatorship? Excellent choice, Sir. Coming right up!
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:17 PM
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is Israel was really running the NWO, what's up with B'nai brith?

if you study the history of those kinds of things. minority groups that are agitators only increase hatred, not diminish it.
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Old 03-11-2006, 01:10 PM
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Forgotten your Bible already, Thumper?

"Ye are of your father, the Devil, and his works you will do."

and

"Can a good tree bring forth bad fruit?"

Get your nose out of Revelations and get back into Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

As I've said a gazillion times, I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN anymore, but I know the Bible. All religions have truths in them.

If you are going to follow the Christian faith, you need to know what it is all about, first hand, not from some intermediary with an agenda.
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Old 03-11-2006, 05:54 PM
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Forgotten your Bible already, Thumper?

"Ye are of your father, the Devil, and his works you will do."

and

"Can a good tree bring forth bad fruit?"

Get your nose out of Revelations and get back into Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

As I've said a gazillion times, I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN anymore, but I know the Bible. All religions have truths in them.

If you are going to follow the Christian faith, you need to know what it is all about, first hand, not from some intermediary with an agenda.
the point i was trying to make is that could they be infiltrated?

as i've written on this board before, elevating a minority group beyond reproach is what i liken to 'teachers pet' syndrome, or sowing seeds of discord, kind of like what they do with the muslims in Europe.

the vast majority of jews have no beef with christianity, and yet we have the ADL, Binai B'rith, jewish lobbyists, etc. who pretend to act on their behalf by going out and actively demonizing them. same goes for gun rights or anyone who talks about the NWO, thus making opposition to the NWO exactly equal to anti-semitism.

That's a pretty bad move wouldn't you say? i'm reminded of the anti-semitism laws that preceded the jewish pogroms in the soviet union.
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Old 03-12-2006, 09:42 AM
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The answer to your question is a resounding NO, Thumper, they are not infiltrated, they are the infiltrators. The very suggestion that someone COULD infiltrate this cabal borders on the ridiculous.

There are always some exceptions to every rule, but in this case they certainly ARE NOT a majority, that is either wishful thinking on your part or you are being disingenuous.

You seem to forget that it is the jewish community that supports these groups you pointed out. The little mom and pop operation on the corner may be just as nice and friendly to you as anyone else, but their checks go out every month to these jewish organizations. I have worked with and for some of these people, it is a fact.

There is only question to be answered, "Is it good for the jew?" The whole world could hang in the balance but their first and only concern is how it affects them. They do not see themselves as part of the whole; they feast on fear and "persecution," most of which they have brought on themselves, just as today.

As an Egyptian journalist put it, "You could give the jews Heaven and they would hang pictures of Hell on the walls."
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