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Old 10-31-2006, 08:42 PM
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Zionist Prison Camp(Amerikaa)...

http://illuminaticonfessions.squarespace.com/display/ShowJournal?moduleId=838025¤tPage=2

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Old 10-31-2006, 09:09 PM
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Bloggers......


http://justanotherblowback.blogspot.com/

DOD Debunkers...

http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2006/10/how-911-conspiracy-debunkers-operate.html


Flight 93 Hoax

http://flight93hoax.blogspot.com/

Streaking Object

http://www.geocities.com/streakingobject/index.html
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:18 PM
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Events...

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Possibly 300 dead soldiers being covered up????


U.S. Army Base Falcon IRAQ.....


http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2006/10/1732758.php

Falcon damage report...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=94824

Correlation>>>>Iran Did It!....
FROM POST #69...

U.S. Naval Buildup right after the Falcon Disaster

http://debka.com/article.php?aid=1223
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Flying Engines...


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PENTAGON BULLSHIT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

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went to vote today and i was disappointed that a referendam on immigration was not offered up.Color me suprised.White boy you had better start making some noise and soon before you have no say or choice but revolution.We need the same unity that others are allowed.
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Monsanto.......

How the Illuminati corporations control the food chain (12/10/2006)
>>>INTERESTING ARTICLE ON FOOD AND SEED CONTROL<<<




Hello all ...

Twenty-five years ago when I was a national spokesman
for the British Green Party I was talking about the
plan by the corporations to monopolise global food
production from field to plate. Today, the crime is
almost complete.

This is even more significant when you realise that
those ’corporations’ are in fact one corporation
operating under different names. Behind the fake
directors and interlocking personnel the same force
dictates the policy and goals for them all. And one of
those goals is to control everything we eat and drink.

People talk about controlling oil to control the
people. But nothing, apart from air, is more
fundamental to human survival, let alone health and
prosperity, than food and water. If anything should be
exempt from the profit motive it should be water,
which is a most basic requirement for life in this
reality. But our water supplies are in the hands of
the same corporation that now controls food production
and sales across the world. This was all planned a
long time ago.


To achieve this control, diversity had to be
eliminated and this is why life has been made so
difficult for small and independent farmers. Almost
wherever you look suicide rates among farmers are some
of the highest in the population and often the stress
of battling daily to survive is a key, often
overriding, factor. The numbers of independent farmers
going bankrupt or selling up and leaving the land has
soared since the Illuminati war on the small farmer
began world-wide. It is a similar story with small
businesses of all kinds because the corporations want
to own and control everything.

The Italian dictator Benito Mussolini is alleged to
have said that ’Fascism should more properly be called
corporatism because it is the merger of state and
corporate power’. Whether he said it or not the
statement remains true, not least in Hitler’s Germany.
Today we see the gathering global fascism in the
merger of state and corporate power - with the
corporate far more powerful than the political. This
interconnecting web has allowed the corporations to
integrate their ambitions and manipulations into
political policy and never more powerfully than in the
hijacking of the food chain.

A perfect example was the sting played on European
farmers in the 1980s under the European Community’s
Common Agricultural Policy or CAP. At first, this
appeared to be the equivalent of winning the lottery
for farmers of all kinds. Basically, they were paid
for whatever they produced whether they sold it or
not. Imagine that, whatever you make you are
guaranteed the market rate courtesy of the European
taxpayer.

I remember as a Green Party spokesman arguing against
the infamous CAP and facing the wrath of the farming
community who were lighting cigars and raising a glass
to the Genie and his magic lamp. But why wouldn’t
they, given the short-term thinking that infests the
human psyche ? All their dreams had come true.

The policy of we’ll-buy-what-you-sow led to massive
surpluses and the infamous ’food mountains’ and ’wine
lakes’ as the unsold production was stored in giant
warehouses across the continent. This was one of the
grotesque examples of the rich-poor divide highlighted
by Bob Geldof at the time of Live Aid in 1985. While
extraordinary amounts of food were being stored in
Europe, millions were dying from starvation.

But the Illuminati are nothing if not inhuman.

The CAP also devastated the countryside and the land
and soil in general as farmers cleared all impediments
to opening every square inch they could to more
production. Every sow was guaranteed dough and this
was without the need even to find a buyer or a belly.
They were also taking out big bank loans to buy more
land at the ever increasing prices fuelled by what was
happening.


Trees and hedgerows were uprooted and wildlife
plummeted with the loss of habitat and the poisons
provided by the pharmaceutical cartel to increase
yields in the short term while destroying fertility in
the long. Talking to farmers about the insanity of
this as a Green party spokesman was, appropriately,
the story of the seeds and the stony ground.

Then came the sting.

Opposition to the Common Agricultural Policy increased
until it was the major issue of the day because the
European taxpayer was footing the astonishing bill.
What’s more, the hidden forces behind the policy were
supporting and giving publicity to this public outrage
- ’something must be done’. Stage two was underway.

The European Economic Community, now called the
European Union, announced that it would have to change
the CAP in the face of public demand and the
’mountains’ of food left unconsumed. This ’change’ was
to stop paying farmers for everything they produced.
The gravy train had collided with the buffer stops.
Farmers across Europe were now faced with actually
finding buyers for their produce, but once the
subsidies evaporated prices slumped with so much food
and drink available both in production and storage.
Small and independent farmers went bankrupt on a
massive scale because they couldn’t pay their debts to
the banks that they increased dramatically through
land-buying and other investment in the manufactured
boom.

And who was waiting to buy the farms at a few cents on
the dollar ? The corporations who were behind the
whole thing via the Illuminati network in government.

In the United States, something similar has happened
in the last half century with a series of decisions by
the Illuminati-owned Federal Reserve leading farm debt
to soar. By the end of 2005, it was well in excess of
$200 billion and today in the United States, once a
nation of small farmers, only two per cent of the
population are involved. Illuminati corporations like
Monsanto in St Louis and the price-fixing
Archer-Daniels Midland in Illinois, have been major
beneficiaries of other people’s misery.


This has happened on every continent as the market has
been artificially suppressed in readiness for the ’buy
outs’. Where this has not yet happened the
corporations control the food chain by owning the
seeds, setting the prices and imposing ’free trade’.

Patenting seeds was unthinkable before the 20th
century and indeed Article One of the US Constitution
specifically excluded, for moral reasons, the
patenting of ’life’. In the 1930s, plant breeders were
allowed to patent seed varieties, but not to have
rights to subsequent seeds that were produced from
them by the growers. Then in 1980, the Illuminati
challenged these restrictions through the General
Electric Corporation and specifically one of its
employees, an Indian-born scientist called Dr Ananda
Chakrabarty. He developed a genetically-engineered
microbe to ’eat’ oil licks, which in the end proved
unusable. It was refused a patent by the US Patent
Office, but Chakrabarty made history when the US
Supreme Court awarded him, by just one vote, the first
patent for a life form. With that judgement, the
floodgates did swing.

During the Reagan-Bush years patents followed for
animals, human genes and body parts. The corporations
contend that if they own the gene in the animal or
plant, they own the animal and plant. So what about
the genetic engineering of the human body ? Yep,
according to this contention they would say they
therefore own the body. As Andrew Kimbrell, Executive
Director of the Center for Food Safety, said : ’It
actually means giving corporations, incredibly, the
power to own and control species of the earth’. It
means that if you own animals or seeds that have been
patented by the corporations you have to pay a royalty
for every new one produced. This includes the poorest
farmers of the ’developing world’.


From the mid-1990s, the Illuminati pesticide and
chemical producers, notably Monsanto and Dow, began to
buy the seed producers. Monsanto spent some eight
billion dollars alone and Dr. Charles M Benbrook,
former Board of Agriculture Director at the Academy of
Sciences, said : ’Basically, the US pesticide industry
bought the seed industry for all intents and
purposes.’

The intent and purpose was to control food production.

The law was changed still further to, wait for this,
allow the corporations to patent seed varieties that
they have not genetically engineered. The only
criteria were that no-one else had got there first !
This led to the corporations taking the seeds from the
seed banks designed to protect genetic diversity and
going to the patent office to register ownership. It
is reckoned that Monsanto alone owns more than 11,000
seeds.

It has reached such ludicrous levels that even if
seeds they don’t own are contaminated by
genetically-modified seeds blown onto a farm from
elsewhere, even a passing truck, the corporations are
taking the farmers to court for illegal use of their
patented seed without a license. This is happening to
increasing numbers of farmers, including Percy
Schmeiser in Canada who was well-known for developing
his own seeds.


Monsanto went onto his land without his knowledge or
permission and then issued a law suit for his use of
patented canola seeds that had blown onto his land. It
didn’t matter how unjust and crazy it was, the court
gave the judgement in favour of Monsanto. Why ?
Because the corporations, through the Illuminati
network, control the courts as they control the
politicians who allowed all this to happen in the
first place. Percy Schmeiser was forced to destroy a
thousand pounds of seeds that he and his wife had
developed over decades because they had been
contaminated by the unwanted Monsanto variety. Percy’s
wife, Louise, said :

’Monsanto comes along when we have worked for all
these years and they just want to take it away just
like that ... they can just come and do anything to
the farmers, just like they own them, and it really is
upsetting. And I feel they have taken our rights away
and our privacy. And we are not the only ones they
have done it to, there are many others.

Why are they prosecuting so many of these little
farmers when they are only worth a couple a hundred
thousand, when they are such a multi-national company
- why ? Is it greed or is it that they just want to
control all the seeds ?’

The answer is both. It is another front on the war
against the independent producer and seed diversity.
The Schmeisers lost all their retirement money in
legal costs fighting the case and thousands of
innocent farmers just pay up when Monsanto come
calling to avoid crippling lawsuits.


Rodney Nelson, a farmer in North Dakota, was another
Monsanto victim. He said that every farmer he had
spoken to who had been targeted by Monsanto had told
the same story. Monsanto had arrived to test their
crop and those with nothing to hide thought little of
it until a year later when, to their astonishment,
Monsanto said they had found their patented seed
variety on their land. The delay of a year meant the
plants were not available for them to challenge the
claims.

Monsanto told Nelson that they had tested all 1,350
acres of his soya bean crop, but when it was pointed
out in the subsequent legal case that to do this would
have meant gathering one sample continuously every 20
seconds, they changed their story. They had, they
said, only taken a handful. In short, they were making
it up. But the Illuminati control the courts and
Rodney Nelson describes the judge’s ’view’ of this
incredible injustice :

’It didn’t matter how Monsanto’s genetic-altered
canola got into his field. Whether it cross-pollinated
or blew in by the wind, or by birds, insects or
animals or falling off a farmer’s truck, or carbine
and so on, it didn’t matter, if there were some plants
there I had violated Monsanto’s patent, even though I
didn’t want it in my field.

He ruled that any farmer that has a conventional
plant, it doesn’t matter what kind of plant, if it’s a
seed, a tree, if it gets cross-pollinated with
Monsanto’s gene against your wishes and against your
property, my plant becomes Monsanto’s property. Now
stop and think what that means for farmers all over
the world, farmers, gardeners, anything to do with a
life-giving form. That shows you the power of patent
law over farmers’ rights.’

One farmer suggested there is not a single field in
western Canada that has not been contaminated by
Monsanto’s GM Canola and that’s the whole idea. That
was the reason for the ’trials’ in the UK ordered by
Tony Blair, the biotech industries man in Downing
Street. Once they are established, the contamination
begins, followed by the lawsuit. One of the most
active funders of GM research, by the way, has been
the Rockefeller Foundation, which will surprise no-one
who has studied Illuminati history.

But the most sinister development of all are the
so-called ’terminator seeds’ that die after a single
use and cannot be re-used to produce seeds for the
next year’s harvest. The United States government has
been funding the research since the Reagan-Bush
administration in 1983 and, if you didn’t know the
true motivation, it would seem inexplicable that a
government would seek to develop a technology that
threatened to turn farmers and whole nations into
slaves of the seed corporations. Willard Phelps, a
spokesman for the US Department of Agriculture, said
the aim was to establish the widest possible use of
terminator seeds ’to increase the value of proprietary
seed owned by US seed companies and to open up new
markets in Second and Third World countries.’ Henry
Kissinger’s words in the 1970s capture the motivation
: ’Control the oil and you can control entire
continents. Control food and you control people ...’


Jackson Stephens ... if you emptied his pockets the
Clintons would fall out.

The ’suicide seeds’ were developed with taxpayer money
in a joint operation between the United States
government and a company called Delta and Pine Land
which was reported to have had a rather famous
investor - Queen Elizabeth II. The largest shareholder
has been the Stephens Group in Arkansas, controlled by
Jackson Stephens, the major bankroller of Bill
Clinton’s deeply corrupt political career. A chairman
of Delta and Pine has been Stephens Group
vice-chairman, Jon E.M. Jacoby, who once said of
Clinton’s alleged corruption in Arkansas : ’You see a
girl walking down the street. You can say, "There goes
a beautiful girl" or "There goes a whore". What the
hell’s the difference ? They’ve both got legs.’ Nice
people.

Now the punch line : In August 2006 it was announced
that Delta and Pine had agreed a $1.5 billion deal to
sell its operation and terminator seed patents to ...
Monsanto.

Running parallel with the creation of copyrighted
seeds has been the systematic destruction of the
alternatives. Ninety-seven per cent of the vegetables
grown at the start of the 20th century are now
extinct. There were once five thousand potato
varieties grown world-wide, now only four are grown on
any scale. This is extremely important because it
opens the way for those varieties that remain to be
destroyed by disease or genetic manipulation. In
Ireland in the 19th century when only a few varieties
of potato were grown, the consequences of potato
blight attacking those species was a million people
starved to death.


The fewer varieties we use the greater the danger from
disease and insects and this had led to the dependence
of chemical spraying - provided by Monsanto and co -
which have created the so-called super bugs and weeds
that have developed through mutation an immunity to
the poisons that killed them before. In my book, It
Doesn’t Have To Be Like This, published in 1989, I
wrote that the chemicals were ... ’creating
super-pests that have become resistant to the
chemicals so more and more pesticides are needed to
kill them. Where will it all end ?’ Nearly 20 years
later we are beginning to see. A report by the
California Policy Seminar, a joint program of the
university and state government, said :

’As a result of these practices worldwide, the number
of resistant pests is growing exponentially, the
authors point out. According to recent biological
research, the number of insects and mites that have
become resistant to chemicals since 1950 is up
10-fold, from less than 50 species to more than 450.’

All these things connect with the Illuminati plan to
control the good chain and, through that, to control
the people. Their ownership of the land and, by
lawsuit, the independent farmers, means they control
what and how much is produced ; by control of the
supermarkets and the commodity markets they dictate
the price it is sold for ; and by enforcing ’free
trade’ laws through the Illuminati World Trade
Organisation they prevent any country from blocking
imported produce to protect homes markets. All this
has created :

Dependency on Illuminati corporations for seeds.
Dependency on Illuminati corporations for the
pesticides, herbicides and fertilisers to make the
seeds grow or survive. Dependency on Illuminati
supermarkets which have destroyed independent stores
and dictate the price they will pay to farmers.
Dependency on Illuminati corporations for virtually
everything that we eat or drink. Dependency = control
and that is what this whole story is about.

To be continued ... :-?

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The Entire Internet!

The Internet and "conspiracy forums".

Cointelpro operations and Cointelpro operatives


What is Cointelpro?

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/cointel.htm

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/churchfinalreportIIIa.htm

Cointelpro Conspiracy Forums

above top secret.com
RINF.com
godlike productions.com
the list is lengthy, too many to list!

Great researcher!

http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/cointelpro-updates-above-top-secret.html

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/Laura-Knight-Jadczyk/column-lkj-030811.htm
AboveTopSecret...Servers and Data Centers..
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave13f.htm

http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/Stranger_Than_Fiction.php



Connect the Dots.....

http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006_01_07_laura-knight-jadczyk_archive.html

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?whoistoken=0

Herndon, Virginia...Lot of "Retired Goverment Operatives" retire there.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Herndon,+VA


ATS SERVER and DATA Center
AboveTopSecret...Server and Data Center

Illuminati Company or.....

https://www.theplanet.com/index.html?p=facilities

https://www.theplanet.com/index.html?p=tour



Pure Speculation of course. :-)
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The Entire Internet!

The Internet and "conspiracy forums".





Cointelpro Conspiracy Forums

above top secret.com
RINF.com
godlike productions.com
the list is lengthy, too many to list!










Connect the Dots.....



http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?whoistoken=0

Herndon, Virginia...Lot of "Retired Goverment Operatives" retire there.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Herndon,+VA


ATS SERVER and DATA Center
AboveTopSecret...Server and Data Center

Illuminati Company or.....

https://www.theplanet.com/index.html?p=facilities

https://www.theplanet.com/index.html?p=tour



Pure Speculation of course. :-)

Hey! check the Whois domain finder, the Gov't run ATS forum just had it removed after "THEY" probably read this post. HA. it reads 'not available'. ATS, they have their "Operatives" scoping every 'Conspiracy Forum' for any info exposing that site. By the way, just to be on the safe side,I have'nt found much on Makow, or this website,however, A "Knowledge" of what forums are real is crucial to learning what is real, and what is'nt, The Truth is out there.(The Zionist work overtime too fool you.) :-?


Wait a minute, here it is....




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