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Old 05-20-2006, 06:08 PM
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It is a pity you have such a limited understanding of what Christianity really is.
Then by all means define what Christianity is.

Is it following the Bible? I've done that, read it 8+ times through. Spent whole days reading it for weeks at a time. Spent a lot of time referring to original words, and definitions. Learned through context the real meaning of words and messages.

Is it going to church? -Done that too. 3 times a week, for a year and have attended many different types of Christian churches. Imo they're all ignorant of the Bible.

So what is Christianity that I have such a limited understanding about? Perhaps you could enlighten me or debunk my research on the False Apostle since no one seems to dare attempt it.

By showing that the Bible is fallible, then we have good reason to not trust any of it. Have you ever asked a rabbi why they don't believe in the prophecies about Jesus? I have.

Christianity in any form is mind-control, it makes them ignorant, inneffective, and that is dangerous.

I'm a believer in intelligent design, I think the Jewish diet is the best, if Jesus is God then I already believe in him, but I'm not going to fall for some perverse piece of literature or person telling me who He is. Even the Bible itself teaches against that.

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Old 06-02-2006, 09:16 PM
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MADTHUMBS SHUT SATERNINO DOWN! SATERNINO HAD NO RESPONSE TO THAT AND I TOTALLY AGREE MADTHUMBS! CHRISTIANITY AND ALL RELIGIONS TO ME ARE NOTHING BUT A FORM OF CONTROL. YEH, THEY TEACH GOOD VALUES, BUT GOOD VALUES ALONE WONT GET YOU INTO HEAVEN! IT TAKES MORE THAN JUST BEING A GOOD PERSON AND FOLLOWING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS! IT'S ALL ABOUT KNOWLEDGE OF THE SELF. UNDERSTANDING THAT YOUR A GOD! DOES CHRISTIANITY TEACH YOU THAT YOUR A GOD? NOPE! INSTEAD THE PASTOR RATHER SAY YOU GO STRAIGHT TO HELL IF YOU COMMIT SUICIDE WHEN THAT ISNT TRUE. THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATES ITS ONE UNFORGIVEN SIN, AND THAT'S BLASPHEMY. NOT WHAT IS BLASPHEMY? SAYING GOD DOESNT EXIST? NOT SO... WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT REVEALS ITSELF TO YOU, ITS TRUE NATURE AND YOU STILL DENY HIM, THATS BLASPHEMY. THINK ABOUT IT? THE LORD WONT HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE TO WHAT IS UNKNOWN TO YOU. BUT IF HE SHOWS YOU HIMSELF, AND YOU DENY HIM, ITS A RAP FOR YOU. THATS UNFORGIVEN.

NOW YALL ARE PROBABLY SAYING, WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE FOR TELLING US ALL THAT PREVAIL. ILL TELL YOU. I MYSELF BELIEVE IN RE-INCARNATION. I BELIEVE YOU GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF SELF AND WHEN YOU DIE, IF YOUR NOT READY TO ENTER HEAVEN(OF COURSE THE MOST HIGH DETERMINES THAT) THEN YOU COME BACK TO EARTH AS ANOTHER HUMAN ON ANOTHER JOURNEY! I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT JESUS DID. JESUS HIMSELF SAID THE WAY TO THE FATHER IS THROUGH ME AND I DONT THINK THAT MENT ACCEPT ME INTO YOUR HEART AND YOUR GOING TO HEAVEN. IT MENT, WALK IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF JESUS, DO MIRACLES AND GREAT WORKS FOR THE MOST HIGH. WE'RE ALL CAPABLE, JESUS SAID WE'RE GODS! DID HE NOT?

SO, ILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS QUESTION. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE OR UNDERSTAND WHAT I JUST SAID, BUT YOU DO AGREE THIER IS ONLY ONE UNFORGIVEN SIN. THEN TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU COMMIT SUICIDE BUT YOU DONT GO TO HELL? BECAUSE YOU DEFINATELY ARNT GOING TO HEAVEN. BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE FORGIVEN SIN, SO YOU WONT GO TO HELL EITHER. WHERE DO YOU GO? PURPOSE BACK TO EARTH... REINCARNTED? HEY BELIEVE WHAT YOU CHOOSE BUT RELIGION IS A FORM OF CONTROL! AND THATS THAT!
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:20 PM
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I MISPELLED ALOT OF WORDS. SORRY :>\
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:01 PM
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Perhaps you could enlighten me or debunk my research on the False Apostle since no one seems to dare attempt it.
http://www.reasoning.netfirms.com/

Wish granted. int:

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Have you ever asked a rabbi why they don't believe in the prophecies about Jesus? I have.
What kind of question is this? It is like asking, "have you ever asked an atheist why he doesn't believe in God?" Or "Have you ever asked <insert other religion here> why he doesn't believe in Jesus?"

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Old 10-09-2006, 07:33 PM
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The true Mosaic Jew did believe in Jesus, they became Christians.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:25 PM
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Then by all means define what Christianity is.
Will do! Bringing my posse with me though. A few Masters and pHD's in Theology etc...is 3 to many to hold over at your place?

[Have taken pic out on request]

Truly, we will flog the love of Christ into you before we're done. :lol:

Will come and go..have tea and biscuits ready!
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:34 PM
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Default MADTHUMBS...I Honestly Think You're Either Mad Or Professional Disinfo...

I took a quick look at your magnificent Phd material on "Paul". You dont actually say anything? What is your point? Are you saying because something does'nt add up in your head it is dismissed immediately?

Again...you are infected with the "reactionary" virus after partaking in "Christianity Lite" in the U.S. Because you are a racist and bigotted American who believes the world ends at an East Coast Casino beach... you forget the other 750+ million Christians who do not worshit Benny Hinn, Greflo Dollar and Jimmy Swaggart.

Give me point by point REFUTATIONS of the Bible. Here. One at a time right here and I will refute them right here. I want the refutations as CLEAR as CRYSTAL.

Eg: PAul is a lying cunt because he says here..."blah blah blah" and then 5 minutes later is killing babies.

Also...i personally consider the Gospels my main theme. Christ did'nt say it then it's up for grabs. MAke sure to give me blow by blow reasons why it is "brainwashing".

I need to make this clear because your arguments are quite frankly shit (because you dont make any) and people dont debate because they fail to see what you are on about.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:42 PM
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MADTHUMBS: I will have to back down. One of my posse is right next to me crunched over in laughter after reading one of your posts. He refuses to debate you.

To be honest, the fact that a you can seriously write what they write and believe you are being objective... I realize nothing of what is put to you will be accepted.

Their is a BIG WIDE WORLD out their brother of VERY smart people who have spent their lives LIVING the Gospel. Experiencing and relating to things you cannot imagine. Benny Hinn and the other hypocrit/conmen are limited mostly to the U.S. You are reacting to a particular U.S phemonema.

I wish you well in the coming End Of Days. Sincerely. :-)
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:07 PM
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Very interesting comments cuda. Welcome.
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Old 10-10-2006, 09:28 PM
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madthumb be careful what you wish for.When the anti christ reveals himself he will do just that .bring all factions together.When that happens will you bow to him?Just a friendly warning from a christion.And i do agree that the churches (not christions)are selling boosh to there members.When you are presented with a consevitive or liberal choice some people think the conservitive choice is the lesser of two evils but they are the same just a differant face.One preaching immorality and the other claiming to be christion.Those with knowledge can see that.Satan is a pretty smart guy and he has had a long time to get to know people and he has had quit a bit of help from the lost souls that think money and power is all there is.Like most churches in america do. when money is your god the devil is your banker.The one eyed man is king in the land of the blind.
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