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Old 11-12-2009, 10:16 AM
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This doesn't prove ANYTHING. If you had researched the Duesberg hypothesis, you'd understand that. According to the Duesberg hypothesis, a positive HIV test is actually quite common and unrelated to AIDS.

Maybe you should actually research the Duesberg hypothesis before coming up with this sort of strawman arguments. I suggest you start by watching the 2 hour documentary HIV=AIDS: Fact Or Fraud and move on from there.
Ill look at it, but the fact that I found so many inconsistancies in just a cursory investigation does not impress me much.

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Old 11-12-2009, 10:38 AM
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Ill look at it, but the fact that I found so many inconsistancies in just a cursory investigation does not impress me much.
Thusfar, you've only brought up strawman arguments that are anything but impressive. Just watch the video first. It gives a very good introduction into the matter and this video is actually what made me interested in the topic in the first place.
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:45 AM
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Thusfar, you've only brought up strawman arguments that are anything but impressive. Just watch the video first. It gives a very good introduction into the matter and this video is actually what made me interested in the topic in the first place.
A straw man means that I am exaggerating the claim. There is no need to do that in this case.
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A straw man means that I am exaggerating the claim. There is no need to do that in this case.
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. Your arguments were based on a misrepresentation of Duesberg's hypothesis or otherwise you would have known they were irrelevant.

Anyway.... Why don't you just watch the video first before you make any more comments? It's only two hours. Thusfar, I haven't encountered a single "debunker" or "skeptic" who can provide a plausible explanation for the points made in the video (eg. the failure of the HIV/AIDS hypothesis to pass Koch's postulates or the fact that almost all cases of AIDS within the developed world are limited to specific risk groups).
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The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. Your arguments were based on a misrepresentation of Duesberg's hypothesis or otherwise you would have known they were irrelevant.

Anyway.... Why don't you just watch the video first before you make any more comments? It's only two hours. Thusfar, I haven't encountered a single "debunker" or "skeptic" who can provide a plausible explanation for the points made in the video (eg. the failure of the HIV/AIDS hypothesis to pass Koch's postulates or the fact that almost all cases of AIDS within the developed world are limited to specific risk groups).
Well, he was the one that claimed that women dont get KS, after all, so that is not an overstatement.
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Well, he was the one that claimed that women dont get KS, after all, so that is not an overstatement.
Where did he make that claim? Can you link to the actual source you got that from?

Anyway... So what if out of all KS cases there are 5% or less women instead of 0 women? It's a silly inaccuracy that does not disprove his hypothesis.
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Peter Duesberg on AIDS - Duesberg.com - HIV / AIDS research website for Peter H. Duesberg.

Or is this site wildly misrepresenting his ideas? Im still looking into it.
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It does appear to be his official website.

Anyway, have you watched the video yet?
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No, sorry. Bit busy running a business and doing the nano-thermite research you gave me. But I wont forget about it.
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No, sorry. Bit busy running a business and doing the nano-thermite research you gave me. But I wont forget about it.
Take your time. We can continue this discussion after you watched the video
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