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Australia's History; Pyramids, Egyptian Glyphs, more!
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Whereas I'm not a believer in aliens, I do feel pyramids and other archeological anomalies around the world, tell us an important truth of the movements of man, that the NWO relies on keeping "buried", for their coming "False Messiah" scam to be believed.

It has always struck me as 'off', that The Bible starts with the Super-Continant (that doesn't divide untill Peleg's time), and one of the 'heads' coming off the river (out of Eden) is called the Euphrates, then "they" try to tell us it's that trickle (compared to the Super-Continant's Euphtrates) in the Middle East, that "they" then use to base the 'right' to tell us, is where the Bible "story" comes from.

I fully believe that archeological anomolies prove that The Bible was written for and about the whole world, as It claims, and that's why "they" keep these discoveries "buried".

The world over now, people are looking for end time signs in Israel. I believe they are looking in the wrong place for the wrong signs, and that that's been the plan all along, and why so many histories have been so blatently lied about.

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Yep the Egyptians have been to Australia...DEFFO

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~classblu/egypt/article.htm
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And Look who is here ...ANUBIS







Scarabbs, Anubis, Mummies, Stars etc etc...


Sketches of some rock art


This thread goes well with the thread, "Who are the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel?"

The point I'm getting at is that we don't need to look for any 'magical', 'secret', 'illuminated' writtings of men, but honestly look at the real evidence, of real history, that's so "actively ignored", but still there to be found.

After all, it's kind of hard to "hide" whole continants!
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Something else I got off crystalinks, written by a guy called David Lovegrove (The link is http://crystalinks.com/australisphynx.html )

Australia is a vast and very old land. There is a spiritual vibration in the outback that I believe is part of the ancient mystery of our indigenous people. It is a very powerful sense of a sort of eternal wisdom of the land, and it's like you feel that you are being watched and weighed up by ancient elders. For me it wasnt just a good feeling. I actually grew a little afraid of the realness of this feeling. It was like "we are watching you little white child walking in our sacred places". I eventually felt that I was approved of and also protected and watched over.

The uncanny thing for me about the aboriginal people is that in physical appearance they look very much like the people of southern India. I am very interested in Yoga, and whilst in the outback I felt that maybe the Yogic tradition came from here thousands of years ago or at least that there is a strong link.

Outback Australians like to talk of the uncanny "magical" deeds of Aboriginal men of power, and the people I have talked to over the years were not new age people, but were actually rather "straight", yet were convinced of the truth of these stories.

I see no reason why there could not have been civilizations of high technology(technology of the physical and the spirit) here in the distant past. If we have got to where we are now in maybe 7000 years, why couldn't something similar or greater happen a long way further back?

One day I was talking to a Christian Minister (Uniting Church, which is Presbyterians and Methodist and Baptist combined). Anyway, he was a very honest and reliable sort of man, and he had been a minister in an outback town for a number of years. One day he was driving his landrover out of town (the only road out) and stopped to talked to an old aboriginal Elder who was a friend of his.

The minister told the Elder that he was going to this other town a couple of hundred miles away (not far in Australian terms), and the old elder said, "Okay, I'll see you there."

The minister drove off wondering what the man meant, as he knew that the Elder had no car. He drove for hours and as he pulled into the town there was the aboriginal man sitting on a verandah.

When asked how he got there ahead of the landrover he just smiled.

Now this sounds like a tall tale, but the man who told me the story had no reason to lie, in fact such a tale seems to be in a distinctly non christian realm, and I am a good judge of people and I could tell he was sincere.

The spirituality of the aboriginal people is a secret thing, and even among them there are secrets for men and secrets for women and secrets only for the specially initiated. The white invader her has usually treated the aboriginal people with contempt, seeing them as dirty naked savages, labelling them as lazy and untrustworthy. Things are a bit better now, but this attitude and misunderstanding is still widespread.

There is no reason I can think of why the remnants of the traditional aboriginal people would even attempt to share their spiritual wisdom and profundity with a people as arrogant and ignorant of nature as the invader. They are at heart a very kind and gentle people, and many times I have wept tears of shame when confonted with the cruelty inflicted on them since my ancestors came here 200 years ago. What happened here is just as obscene and genocidal and barbaric as what happening in America to the native peoples.

The aboriginal people are great judges of character, and as I have a love and kindred feeling for them the people I have met usually have warmed to me and accepted me as a friend. When I went to the outback I was told in a psychic way that I was being watched and weighed. I am not terribly into the whole gamut of new age beliefs yet I have lived a life of spiritual experiences, partly through my own seeking and partly through some kind of fate.

In the outback I got the strongest feeling possible that the spirit! ual masters of this land are still the spiritual masters of this land, no matter how much the western materialist capitalist culture appears to prevail. I believe that we are like big children playing with super toys, ignorant of all but the most obvious facts of life. The movie "The Right Stuff" touched on this belief that many of us have that certain aboriginal people are able to do "impossible" things.

There is a scence where "Gordo" is in Outback Australia and the Elders are singing around a fire throwing swirls of sparks , and he is told that they are up there helping Scott Glenn as he orbits the Earth. Many older Australians like me (I'm 45) take it as given that there are amazing mysterys in this country that are secret for good reason.

I mentioned in a previous letter about the possible connection of ancient Australians and the Vedic culture of India. In the well known book Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda describes his life witnessing miraculous abilitys of yogic saints he met, and his! own experiences. This includes people being in two places at once, not eating for years, sitting underwater for hours, raising the dead. He writes in a matter of fact way, and one has to either believe him or consider him a liar and a lunatic! I believe that the secrets of the aboriginal people are of this nature- abilitys that are considered supernatural to Western people whose culture was stripped of its tradition by the Christian clergy and its economic power, and by the Industrial Revolution that mechanized our ancestors lives and has removed us a long way from nature (and dare I say it, sanity).
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"Big" things have never really struck me with awe, like the little, and "missing" details of life, so the Gympie Pyramid (one of, I believe, 10, but I haven't found that link again, yet) I'll leave to the pyramid buffs.

It's the questions, the following questions raise, that 'get me in'.
At this link;
http://www.awarenessquest.com/osborn.htm

SUMMARY:

The entire complex has suffered repeated cyclone activity and a great deal of erosion - proof of great antiquity. The annals of ancient history associate the names of Queen Hatshepsut of Egypt and Ethiopia, King Solomon of Israel and Hiram, the Phoenician of Tyre with three year voyages to Ophir - identified by historians with Australia in the era of around 1000 BC. In the era 90 AD, Ophir was stated by historians to be owned by India In so much as great controversy exists, pertinent to ancient history, it is believed that excavations of the site will open old doors long shut and vent’ many similar artifacts and petroglyphs found all over Australia relative to Egyptian, Israeli and Cananite history.

This site and other sites recently discovered point to an as-yet undocumented culture of sea trading by ancient Phoenicians and in as much as this site has not yet been excavated and existing artifacts have been collected from the surface, it is predicted that archaeological investigation may well re-write Australian history out of Sarina. However, the deep and abiding concern of people involved here is that the site may be vandalised.

Part One of this analysis will be followed in 12 months by an expanded Part 2 embracing other sites on the coast relative to the phenomena.
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From this link;
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/720016/posts
I find another Egypt/Sth. America connection, but still haven't re-found the links to the Australia/Sth. America connection. It was to do with a genetic cross of Aus/African DNA found in native Sth. Americans, but if "Egyptians went to both lands....and below this is the story of the Aus. Aboriginals giving a masonic handshake on meeting their first white man.

The Mystery of the Cocaine Mummies

In the 21st dynasty of the Pharaos, 3,000 years ago, there took place one night at a temple, the funeral of Henut Taui - the Lady of the Two lands.

Compared to the great rulers of Egypt, her burial was a modest affair. But just like the Pharaos, she too was mummified, and her body placed in the depths of a desert tomb, in the belief it would give her immortality.

In an unexpected way, it has. Her mummified body waited throughout recorded history - the Greeks and Romans, the Dark and Middle ages, the Renaissance and Napoleon, until in the early 19th century, her tomb was plundered.

The king of Bavaria bought the ornate sarcophagus with the mummy inside. He gave it to a museum in Munich, where for another century, Henut Taui lay undisturbed.

Then four years ago a German scientist, Dr Svetla Balabanova, made a discovery which was to baffle Egyptologists, and call into question whole areas of science and archeology to chemistry and botany.

She discovered that the body of Henut Taui contained large quantities of cocaine and nicotine. The surprise was not just that the ancient Egyptians had taken drugs, but that these drugs come from tobacco and coca, plants completly unknown outside the Americas, unheard of until Sir Walter Raleigh introduced smoking from the New World, or until cocaine was imported in the Victorian era.

It was seemingly impossible for the ancient Egyptians to get hold of these substances. And so began the mystery -

Aboriginal gives Masonic handshake on meeting first white man

In 1931 in the N.W. Kimberley¼s, Prof. A. P. Elkin, Professor of Anthropology at Sydney University came upon a tribe of Aborigines who had not met a white man before. The professor was astounded when tribal elders greeted him with Ancient Secret masonic hand signs. He was struck by the startling sematic features present in the natives. He discovered the Aborigines worshipped the sun. They also had an earth mother & Rainbow Serpent Cult. Later he discovered many of the words spoken were of Egyptian origin. This is the area of the famous Wandjina Cave Art. According to legend the Wanjina came from across the Indian Ocean in great vessels.

You can see from these "anomolies", why I believe The Bible is, for and about, the WHOLE world, and that that is "The Brotherhoods GREAT Secret.
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Well, here's some genetic evidence that we've been taught something quite different to our actual history, and they do have a reason, an ancient reason, to lie.

So many "anomolies", so little interest.... or too much interest in keeping them anomolies and the "big" truth they threaten to expose?

http://www.duerinck.com/migrate.html
AMERICANS DESCENDED FROM AUSTRALIANS?

Americans from European ancestry are traced to one of the daughters of Africa Eve, as found in a study above. A further study examined a 11,500-year-old skull, found in Brazil, which appears to belong to a woman of African or Aboriginal (Australia) descent. This might suggest boat travel.

MUNGO MAN -- LAKE MUNGO 3

Recent scientific dating of Mungo Man, a male skeleton found in 1974 in Australia, specifically Lake Mungo in NSW 25 years ago, places the age of Mungo at 40,000 years old, not between 56,000 and 68,000 years old as previously thought. The theory is that this group of individuals represented by our buddy "Mungo" combined with other groups arriving later to form the present Aborigines and Melanesians. The archaeology team at Australian National University includes Dr. Rhys Jones, who helped find Mungo Man, and Dr. Alan Thorne. This dating of Mungo Man meshes with the "Out of Africa" theory. Presumably settlement of the Australian continent would have occurred thousands of years before Mungo Man showed up.

Australian National University researchers published the results of mtDNA testing on Lake Mungo 3. The DNA did not match that of living humans. Either the Mungo lineage evolved in Australia, not Africa, or it could mean that the Mungo lineage went extinct.

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/tcga/
Research themes

The human genome contains an enormous amount of information on the movements and relationships of past populations and on the biological adaptations of those populations to a changing environment. Non-recombining genetic systems, principally the mitochondrial genome and the Y-chromosome, contain detailed information on female and male specific genealogies respectively. Using modern molecular techniques this information can be accessed with increasing speed and in recent years it has been used to address a range of historical and demographic questions. Currently, the relationships between and among populations from Africa, Europe, Asia and The Middle East, with a particular focus on Jewish and Judaic groups, are being investigated using both ancient and modern DNA as source material. Research is also being carried out into the relationship between historical and pre-historical food production and variation in genes coding for both detoxification and nutrient utilisation enzymes in human populations.
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Some tid bits from one of the links (sorry, it wouldn't copy and I lost which one) that tells me we've been deliberately lied to, by the same "line" of peoples, for a very ancient reason.
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Source: Maggies Farm No.37 1988

This 92lb basalt rock was unearthed by Andrew Nott from a building site in North Street Toowoomba (Qld) during the digging of foundations for a factory in 1974.

The rock is carved with a solar motif with a stylistic face and heiroglyphs of serpents. Marilyn Pye bought the artifact and flew it to New York where it was identified as belonging to the most ancient Meso-American culture - The La Tolita - pre-Mayan, and estimated at 2000 BC. Due to a series of circumstances, Marilyn became aware of The Hopi Prophecies concerning the return of the true white brother", which tells of a whiter person with two helpres bringing the symbol of the sun to the Hopi. The legend says that if the three come bringing the symbol of the Sun and the Cross, the "great purification" would begin. If the symbol was not returned then the world would be destroyed by another holocaust. (The Hopi Indians believe they survived a former holocaust by retreating underground). The rock finally made it to the Hopi Indians, and the elder Grandfather David became very excited over the rock and said: "This is what we have been waiting for. There are three others to come."
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Last century an avenue of ancient large leaf fig trees (native only to southern Europe) were found at Mascot. They could have lined a long vanished road leading to an official residence.

In the same area, near the old Sydney water supply stands a cork tree (also native to southern Europe). It and the fig trees pre-date the arrival of Capt.Cook.
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Noted Perth skindiver, Allan Robinson believes he has discovered the remains of an ancient Phoenician tireme off nearby King Sound (WA, Kimberleys, near Derby), where an old prospector earlier dug up a 2700 year old Phoenician inscribed bronze plate.

Other miners claim to have found ancient open cut copper mines in the Kimberley coastal area, wherec
fragments of Palestinian & other pottery have been unearthed.

Similar mines believed to have been dug by Libyans around 2,200 years ago have been located in West Iran, nearby ancient rock inscriptions.
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Egyptian heiroglyphs found carved on a 3 - 4ft long stone. Taken away by WA museum and stored in basement.
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There's that, "very old" Australia - Sth. America connection again;
http://www.perceptions.couk.com/westward.html

1. That black African explorers or traders penetrated Central and South America in prehistory. And that these individuals enjoyed high status.

Early evidence at
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/430944.stm which quotes - "Archaeologists speculate that such an incredible sea voyage, [from Australia to Brazil], would not have been undertaken knowingly but by accident. Just three years ago, five African fishermen were caught in a storm and a few weeks later were washed up on the shores of South America. Two of the fishermen died, but three made it alive"

"Perceptions" - not for the first time - disagrees with the establishment's academics. We believe organized expeditions took place.
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More to tthe very early connection between Australia and Sth America;
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/716088/replies?c=25

URL: http://www.frontpagemag.com/archives/ponte/ponte09-28-99.htm

IN 1975, anthropologists digging at Serra Da Capivara in remote northeast Brazil found a skull in a 43-foot-deep cavern. The cave’s walls were painted with exotic forms, including images of long-extinct giant armadillos. The scientists set aside the skull, as well as some other bones, to gather dust in the National Museum’s huge archives in Rio de Janeiro.

About a year ago, archeologist Walter Neves of the University of Sao Paolo was measuring dozens of ancient skulls when something odd about this one caught his eye. The Brazilian skull, which had belonged to a twenty-year-old female who died in some sort of accident ten millennia ago, had distinct characteristics. It did not appear to be Mongoloid, like those of Native Americans whose ancestors had migrated across the Bering Land Bridge from Asia when past ice ages had lowered world sea levels, but African!

A CAT scan paid for by a British Broadcasting Company documentary team and the National Museum confirmed that this young woman, nicknamed "Luiza" after Africa’s famed human progenitor "Lucy," had the pronounced chin, large nose, and round eyes of an African or an Australian aboriginal. To see Luiza’s story and face, as reconstructed by forensic artist Richard Neave of the University of Manchester, United Kingdom, click here.

Luiza’s "skull dimensions and facial features match most closely the native people of Australia and Melanesia," according to the BBC. Its documentary, Ancient Voices: The Hunt for the First Americans, which aired in Great Britain in early September, shows that ancient Australian rock paintings depict boats with high prows capable of ocean travel. Australia is 8,450 miles from South America, but ancient Polynesians made very long island-hopping voyages across the Pacific. Ancient Australians, whose ancestors left Africa around 100,000 years ago, might successfully have done likewise.
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But now we have solid scientific evidence that among the earliest settlers of the Americas were people of African ancestry, people whose skin presumably was not red or brown but ebony.

According to the BBC documentary, a few of their descendants might still be alive at the far southern tip of South America
, not far from where Ted Turner and Jane Fonda have their huge feudal rancho, a refuge just in case nuclear war destroys the Northern Hemisphere.

The pre-European people of Tierra del Fuego, the "Land of Fire," whose ferocity

and bonfires frightened early Spanish explorers, lived stone-age lives until this century. According to the BBC investigation, they "show hybrid skull features which could have resulted from intermarrying between mongoloid and negroid peoples. Their rituals and traditions also bear some resemblance to the ancient rock art in Brazil."

But what happened to the rest of those black-skinned original Americans in Brazil? The BBC reports that archeologists and anthropologists studying skulls in that cave found that, "The shape of the skulls changes between 9,000 and 7,000 years ago from being exclusively negroid to exclusively mongoloid."

The BBC’s conclusion is stark and horrifying: "Combined with rock art evidence of increasing violence at this time, it appears that the mongoloid people from the north invaded and wiped out the original Americans."

In other words, long before Christopher Columbus and other dead white evil European male (DWEEM in PC-speak) conquistadors arrived to slaughter noble Native American Indians, the noble Native American Indians carried out a genocide that exterminated the true First Americans, who happened to have black skin and African racial origins.

What a different, braver New World ours might have been! Columbus arrives in 1492 and is greeted by smiling black faces. Instead of human-sacrificing Aztecs and socialist Incas, Europeans might have found the gentle culture of Africa or the dreamtime of Australian aboriginal people. Alas, we shall never know what could have been. The murderous genocide carried out by invading Indians destroyed the offspring of Luiza and her fellow black-skinned "original Americans," leaving only a few of their bones and fragments of their beautiful art.
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A couple of more big hints that we really should look at the whole world for Biblical history, rather than just focusing on the Middle East.

http://www.webcom.com/mhc/archaeology/decalogue-introduction.html
Much more to this link, worth a full read.

Is this the world's oldest surviving inscription of the Ten Commandments?

There is a fascinating old site some few miles west of a little town called Los Lunas in New Mexico. The site has been known as "Mystery Mountain" by the locals for many years. At the foot of this hill there is an ancient rock inscription. Many scholars now believe that it contains the Ten Commandments, including 3 instances of the Tetragrammaton, inscribed in old Hebrew letters.

Photo 1997 J.Neuhoff

However, conventional history teaches that the Americas were discovered by the Europeans either in 1492 by Columbus, or maybe a few hundred years earlier by the Vikings. There still seems to be an aversion among the establishment historians to even consider the idea that ancient Mediterranean peoples from the Middle East might have traveled to the Americas in the centuries before Christ. Only so-called diffusionists (14) would have accepted a different view. And yet, there it is, this inscription in New Mexico, an undeniable witness from an ancient past telling its history .
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/israel/losttribes3.html
Illustration of boat Japanese illustration depicting the raft on which the ancient Israelites crossed over to Japan.
Japan
Daber: in Hebrew, to speak.
Daberu: Japanese for chatting.

Goi: a non-Hebrew or foreigner.
Gai'Jeen: prefix for a foreigner, a non-Japanese.

Kor: cold in Hebrew.
Koru: to freeze in Japanese.

Knesset: Parliament in Hebrew.
Kensei: Constitutional government in Japanese.

These are among the thousands of words and names of places with no real etymological meaning in Japanese. And they all correspond with Hebrew words. Even the Kings have similar names. The first known king of Japan, who was named Osee, ruled around 730 BC. This king has been identified with the last king of Israel, Hoshea, who died around the same time, at the time of the Assyrian exile of the ten tribes from Israel. The holy Japanese shinto temple strongly recalls the ancient holy Isrealite temple, which housed a holy of holies section and several gates. Several artifacts in Japan have been traced to Assyrian and Jewish sources, among them, a well in Koryugi with the words "well of Israel" inscribed on its side.

It has also been suggested that the carts of Otsu and Kyoto are of ancient biblical origin, as they are different from any others in Japan. Might the ancient Israelites and their wives and children have been conveyed to Japan in these carts? Among the Samurai sect, there is a tradition that their ancient ancestors came to Japan from western Asia around 660 BC.The name 'Samurai' recalls 'Samaria'. And to which tribe do the Japanese belong? There are those who claim that the Mikado, the Japanese emperor, is a descendant of the Hebrew tribe of Gad. 'Mikado' recalls the Hebrew word for 'his majesty the king,' 'Malchuto'.

Ethiopian women Ethiopian women with qita, unleavened bread baked for passover.
Beta Israel-Ethiopia

In the latter part of the twelfth century, a legend appeared which persisted for several centuries and reached Egypt, Palestine and Europe. According to this legend, a Christian priest named Prester John ruled as monarch over a vast and wealthy Christian Empire. According to many traditions, Ethiopia was the land of the powerful Prester John's kingdom, as well as the home of the ten lost tribes. Persistent rumor had it that these African Israelite kingdoms were at constant war with Prester John, and that their armies were advancing on Rome.

Who are these African-Jewish tribesmen so central to the Prester John legend? These are the Ethiopian Jews known both as Falashas, the Amharic word for landless, wandering Jews, and as Beta Israel, the house of Israel. In Ethiopia, they engaged primarily in agriculture, but were known also for their exquisite crafts and jewelry. Today, most of the Beta Israel live in the state of Israel. In the 1970's and 80's, the Israeli government airlifted thousands of Ethiopian Jews to Israel, rescuing them from political and economic distress.

According to one tradition, the Ethiopian Jews are the descendants of one of the ten tribes, as their religion is an ancient form of biblical Judaism. Their religious practices are prescribed by the Orit, the Torah translated into their Gez dialect. They possess none of the post-biblical laws. Over the centuries, the Beta Israel have been connected with the tribe of Dan. This association has eased the process of their return to the state of Israel in recent times.


Torrance The Scottish missionary Rev. Thomas Torrance in China, 1920s. Torrance claimed the Chiang-Min of West Szechuan were descendants of the ancient Israelites.
Chiang-Min China
"Behold, These are coming from afar. These from the north and the west and these from the land of Sinim." This prophecy, spoken by Isaiah, promised the return of Lost Israelites from all corners of the Earth and from Sinim. Interestingly, Sinim is the Hebrew word for China. In fort-like villages in the high mountain ranges on the Chinese-Tibetan border live the Chiang-Min of West Szechuan. It has been claimed that the Chiang-Min are descendants of the ancient Israelites who arrived in China several hundred years before Christ.

The missionary Torrance, who visited Cheng-du in the early party of this century, insisted that the Chiang-Min strongly resemble the Israelite branch of the Semitic race. He observed that several of their customs were reminiscent of ancient Israelite tradition. Said Torrance: "The plough the Chiang use is similar to the ancient Israelite plough and is drawn by two oxen, never by an ox and an ass. This in accordance with the Biblical stipulation: 'You shall not plough with an ox and ass together.'" The Chaing-Min believe in one God. During "times of calamity or acute distress," writes Torrance, "they issue a moan or cry which sounds like 'Yawei', suggestive of the biblical name of God. The Scottish missionary also claims that the Chinese conception of Sacrifice came from the ancient Israelites.

Finally, Chiang-Min priests, like the ancient Israelite priests, wear girdles to bind their robes, and bear a sacred rod shaped like a serpent, reminiscent of the brass serpent fashioned by Moses in the wilderness.
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