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Old 07-23-2007, 07:16 PM
redrat11 redrat11 is offline
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BlueAngel wrote:
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Then why did you say that you were?
because this is the internet, people say what they want, sorry to mislead you.

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Old 07-23-2007, 11:28 PM
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BlueAngel wrote:
Please show me where I said Springsteen was talking to me. I don't say that I FEEL like people in the forums know me. THEY DO KNOW ME. Sorry, but I KNOW more than you.
You did say that it must have been Springsteen who posted some crap since the site was locked down or something and he only could,as far as I remember.
OK,they know that you are alleged Springsteen mind control victim,I wasnt sure.
What do you know more than me?Why act like a child in first place.
By the way what use is knowledge when its nothing but lies.

I would suggest you dont go to any Springsteen websites at all,there is no reason to,since you are not some dumb fan.
You can make all the suggestions you like, but I'm FREE to do as I desire.
Thats fine BlueAngel,but why do you go to Springsteen websites?
It would be nice to know,as long as you dont have a problem answering this question.

Dont ever think that humans can read your mind,trust me is not possible,we dont have such abilities.
Why should I trust you? Are you an expert in the field of mind control? Where did I mention anything about humans reading my mind?
Maybe because Im speaking the truth.You are free to make up your own mind though.
Im not an expert in mind control,but Thanks God, I know a lot how a mind works though,much better than most people.

The Devils can.
What is the deal with you and the DEVILS? I don't recognize the DEVILS. Never did while I was incarcerated in a "satanic cult" and never will.
Im just saying the truth.Devils do exist,and in order to understand how a mind works its impossible to understand it,unless we accept this fact.
Do you even know what Satanic Cult stands for,or what it means?
Do you have any idea how people end up having split personality,or how people can do things while not being aware of ever done it?
You ignore the most important fact in mind control the reason you still dont have control of your own mind.
Im sure you read this,but you choose to ignore it as always.And you like doing it
Project Monarch
by Ron Patton
Project MONARCH could be best described as a form of structured dissociation and occultic integration, in order to compartmentalize the mind into multiple personalities within a systematic framework. During this process, a Satanic ritual, usually including Cabalistic mysticism, is performed with the purpose of attaching a particular demon or group of demons to the corresponding alter(s). Of course, most skeptics would view this as simply a means to enhance trauma within the victim. negating any irrational belief that demonic possession actually occurs.

Notice how he describes the process,and how he notes that demons are being attached to corresponding alters.And that is exactly what happens.The devils,again being nothing mysterious other than being invisible creatures to us,who are pretty stupid and can be recruited to posses people and take control over them.
Notice the fact how demons are downplayed right after stating that they are used.
People will believe anything before they believe devils exist.

Remember this,for your own good.

Remember what for my own good?
The fact that devils can read our mind,can affect our feelings,can talk to us,only for the ignorant once to think they just went crazy.
This is very important for people to understand,even more so in your case.

You say some very interesting, and true things here in your thread,you seem to be very knowledgeable in certain things,yet you are also very confused on others.

Confused about what and how would you know? Why don't you ENLIGHTEN us all. Remember, I don't need approval from anyone about this thread or what I say regarding my PERSONAL abuse in MKULTRA/Project Monarch and the music industry.
You are confused with many things but so are most people,its what happens when we reject the truth.
You acknowledge the devils but you wont accept the fact that they do exist.You just cant get yourself do do that.
People tend to think thats cool.
Not until people believe in God,will there be justice in this world.
God is the truth,religion is the the truth,unfortunately most people hate the truth.
Religion has been corrupt,and is being attacked,and downplayed,constantly.
And most people are way to happy to play along.
People need to wake up,and think.

Peace BlueAngel,dont hate,but think.
Say;I seek refuge in God from satan the rejected.
Praise be to God Lord of the Universe!
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Old 07-24-2007, 04:39 AM
konig19 konig19 is offline
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Is there no admin here?
How come nobody got rid of those sick pictures on page 132?
Homosexuality is disgusting,evil,sick,ugly,degrading,immoral act.Homo pictures just go on to prove it.
I have to say though,I've seen all those exact pictures before, as well the black kid.While playing Counter Strike Source,the online Multiplayer shooting game.I play it a lot when Im bored.
that game
In the game anybody can spray a picture on the walls while playing,any picture that is.
Thus kids end up spraying lots of porn pictures.
But than somebody always logs into the server,only to spray most disgusting pictures ever,usually is gay porn,or some sick women pictures.
Scary thing is even 11 year olds play that very game.
Those people though only have one thing in mind though,and that is to expose kids to all kind of sick images and acts.
Those people are possessed,as BluAngel would say in an altered state
I seek Refuge in God from satan the rejected.
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:33 PM
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Seriously, Springsteen welcomes his sheeple to the NWO. The NWO that just might get them killed and they follow him blindly.


From the mouth of a man who welcomes his fans to the NWO.

UNBELIEVABLE, but, nonetheless, TRUE!
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Old 07-25-2007, 06:02 AM
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BlueAngel,I posted here only to try and help you understand things better.
You can keep on saying you dont need my advice as much as you want, I dont care,and I dont care if you believe me or not.
But I just wanted you to know some of the things Im saying ,than you can make up your own mind about it all,there are others who read this thread as well.
Dont believe me.
Thats all good.
It dont bother me.

You dont believe that devils exist,right,OK.
I have no problem with that,In fact I can understand..
But what I cant understand is you using the word devil,satan,satanic cult,satan worshipers,,on and on.
You even go on to say this quote;
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist."
Why?Whats the point in saying that?
When you clearly dont believe that they do exist.

The words:devil,satan,satanic,all refer to the invisible evil creatures we call by those names and nothing else.
So by using those words in your speech all the time you acknowledge that they do exist.
If I was you I wouldnt use those word than.

I am not into any sect or cult,I reject the devils.
I only Worship God, my Lord,my Creator, Lord of the Universe.
The deal with me and the devils is that I believe,I know that they exist,just like God says that they exist,and warns us about them.
I have nothing to do with Springsteen,gah...
You can be sure Angel Im got nothing to do with people like that,God Forbid.
I dont expect you to take my advice,yes Im anonymous just like you are,and being anonymous has nothing to do what somebody says.It is not the way to judge what somebody is saying.
I dont know if you believe in God or not BlueAngel,I got the impression that you do,yet in some of your responses to me you clearly dont sound like it.
Im not falling into satans hands,if you think I am please let me know why that is, so can take the right actions.
That Ron Patton's article describes how demons are attached to corresponding alters,right.You said you read it but you dont accept it as true.
I do notice that the downplays the demons,as being nothing but a scare tactic,but thats not true.
He is just tricking himself into believing demons dont exist like most people do,even though he described demons as being used in the process.

There wont be justice in this world until people believe,and worship God alone.
Even the Protocols state this fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yet those who wrote and follow the Protocols are clearly no believers.
But it is important for them to do everything possible to mislead people away from God.
People need to wake up.

You are right those in satanic cults do believe in devils,but they think they are some kind of advanced creatures who can benefit them,if they serve them.
They think that are the special few who know the unseen,they think they are better than most,and see no problem in doing all the evils things they practice.

When I said what use its knowledge when its all just lies.
You can take that more as a quote than something being said to you directly.
Im not anybody who is trying to protect Springsteen,by calling you a lier.
I dont know if it really is true what you are saying or not,I dont have any evidence to make any conclusions.
But I do trust you that most of the song lyrics are really bad,like you have shown.
And I wouldnt be to surprised if most of what you are saying that has happened to you was true.

I believe in God,I trust God,and I follow God's Guidance,and I thank God for guiding me.
God has explained all the things to us that are important for us to attain salvation.
God is the Truth,God Words are the Truth,and God's Guidance is the best guidance.
When we reject God,turn our backs to God,we reject the truth.
Therefore we can not understand many things in our life,but end up following lies,and opinions.
God says:There is only one Truth,everything else is conjecture and guesswork.Conjecture is no substitute for the truth.
God warns us about the devils,saying:The devils are your most ardent enemy so treat them as such.
Devils are part of Christianity,Judaism,and Islam.
In fact all those religions are one,is just that all have been corrupt.
The Bible,the Torah,and the Quran are all God Scriptures.
We can find truth in all God's Scriptures but need to be aware that people have made up lies(in some scriptures) and attributed them to God.
The Quran being the last,and only Scripture God has promised to protect from any corruption.
It is Guidance for all Mankind,but sadly most people dont follow it,most Muslims dont follow it.
Satan has tricked most Muslims into following man made books,like the so called Sunna instead of the Quran,thus people end up as disbelievers ,confused.
Its satan system to mislead mankind astray,and away from God.
The devil is a Master Hypnotist.

Here I will post some verses from the Quran:
In the Name of God,Most Gracious,Most Merciful
He (Satan) said, "My Lord, since You have willed that I go astray, I will surely entice them on earth; I will send them all astray. Except those among Your worshipers who are devoted absolutely to You alone."
He (God) said, "This is a law that is inviolable: you have no power over my servants; you only have power over the strayers who follow you." [15:39-42]

He (God) guides some people while others are committed to straying. They have chosen the devils as their masters, instead of God, YET THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE GUIDED. [7:30]

...He (Satan) and his tribe can see you, while YOU DO NOT SEE THEM. We appoint the devils as companions of those who do not believe. [7:27]
(Satan said,) "I will come to them from before them, and from behind them, and from their right, and from their left, and You will find most of them un-appreciative." [7:17]
"You may entice them with your voice, and mobilize all your forces and all your men against them, and share in their money and children, and promise them. Anything the devil promises is no more than an illusion. As for My servants, you have no power over them." Your Lord suffices as an advocate. [17:64-65]
And the devil will say, after the judgment had been issued, "God has promised you the truthful promise, and I promised you, but I broke my promise. I had no power over you; I simply invited you, and you accepted my invitation. Therefore, do not blame me, and blame only yourselves. My complaining cannot help you, nor can your complaining help me. I have disbelieved in your idolizing me. The transgressors have incurred a painful retribution." [14:22]

How Satan hypnotizes humanity?
By Dr. Douglas Brown
Hypnosis is a trance-like condition characterized by an altered state of consciousness, diminished will power, and an increased responsiveness to suggestion. People differ in their suggestibility to hypnosis. A person cannot be hypnotized against his will; he must obey the suggestions of a hypnotist. Hypnosis has been employed to help people with physical and psychological diseases, as well as for harmful purposes. An effective hypnotist is skilled in gaining the confidence of his clients. He knows that 'it takes two', the client and himself, to produce the desired effects. Our concern here is with the Master Hypnotist who misleads humanity en masse. The Master Hypnotist also gains the trust of his subjects. But, unlike human hypnotists, he is invisible.
Satan meets and even exceeds the qualifications of a hypnotist because he knows when and how to make his suggestions, according to a person's mind, character, desires and habits. He has considerable knowledge of human nature, and he has thoroughly succeeded in rendering millions of humans unable to use their minds.
People who are unappreciative of God are hypnotized by Satan without their knowledge. Countless millions of people say, "I believe in God," when in fact their hearts do not mean it. Their utterance is no more than lip service to go along with parents, friends, or the society at large. Whenever they have opportunities to break away from deception and doubt, they cling to fabricated falsehoods. This leaves them susceptible to Satan's hypnosis. For the Master Hypnotist is given access to the person's true intentions and innermost beliefs, not outward appearances and lip-service utterances. By going against their God-given instinct to worship God alone and uphold His word alone, people enable the Master Hypnotist to set them up for self-destruction behind an invisible barrier.
Satan gradually instills his suggestions into the minds of his subjects; ideas counter to the worship God alone. Satan hypnotizes his subjects into doing anything that reflects disbelief, idol-worship, or hypocrisy.
They are like the devil: he says to the human being, "Disbelieve," then as soon as he disbelieves, he says, "I disown you. I fear God, Lord of the universe." [59:16]
A trained hypnotist slowly infuses his directives into the subject's mind because this "drop by drop" approach helps the subject understand the instructions. But, in Satan's case, it is a matter of making a person feel at home with negative prompts. God protects His sincere servants from the Master Hypnotist's obvious and subtle attempts to hypnotize them.
Im sorry for making this long,and for copying part of an article from a website,you can find the short article here, http://submission.org/satan/hypnosis1.html also the verses I posted above are from this site.
The devils play a big part the way we sometime think,the way we behave and act,they can even take control of people,and we call that possession.
When we know and understand these things we can understand the world better.

If there is a question I didnt answer you ,let me know.
I didnt quote any of your responses but hopefully you can find an answer to your questions above.
Not expecting you to to believe me and Im not forcing my beliefs upon you or anyone.
All Im doing is pointing out to you that those invisible creatures we call devils do exist and are a big part of mind control,even Ron Patton states this fact only to downplay it right after.
But oh well,nothing surprising there.

I wont post here no more unless I have to,this post is just to clarify things,like what I believe and so on.As well to answer some of your accusations

Peace BlueAngel.

Say, "My Lord, I seek refuge in You from the whispers of the devils. And I seek refuge in You, my Lord, lest they come near me." [23:97-98]
Praise be To God,Lord of the Universe!
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:16 PM
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Im pretty much done here BlueAngel,there is no point in arguing with people like this.
Was not what I wanted in the first place.
Just wanted to point some things to you,and I did.
You know pretty well what Im saying now,my last reply was pretty detailed about what I wanted to say here.
Now please understand this;It dont matter to me if you believe me or not,it dont matter to me if you take my advice,it dont matter to me if you try or not try to understand what I said.
It dont matter to me if you think Im making no sense.
You dont have to keep saying;why should I trust you,why should I take your advice,why should I believe you,and so on.
I never said that you should.
I hope you understand this,so you dont have to keep defending yourself like Im trying to force my beliefs on you.

True I believe that devils do exist,I know you dont believe that they do exist.So can you now please stop repeating yourself.
I respect your judgment,and I think you should respect mine.

I know what this thread is about,and what Im saying is not off topic here.
Im talking about mind control,you should know this.Im saying that the devils play a big part in mind control,and in my last post explains some of these things.
Like I said many times,it dont bother me if you believe me or not,so please stop saying I do.

I said:
You dont believe that devils exist,right,OK.
I have no problem with that,In fact I can understand..
BlueAngel said;
No. I don't and you shouldn't have a problem with anything I believe or don't believe. It is of no importance to me whether you understand or not.

Like I said I know you dont believe that devils exist,and thats fine with me.You dont have to reply to it,its a statement not a question.
No Importance to you in anything what Im saying?
I see no point in saying that,other than just being mean.
Most what you say you say it in a mean bitchy way, as to make the argument meaningless,to downplay it,and make people feel stupid,unimportant.
There are smarter ways to argue with people.
Im choose not to be mean to you though.

Alright now please explain this,this is what you said:
Why not? It is a "satanic cult." Who do you think they worship? GOD?
That was your response to my question as to why you use all those words (words which describe devils)so much since you dont believe that they exist.
My answer to that is that they worship satan.
But now,I like to know your answer,WHAT IS IT THAT THEY WORSHIP BlueAngel?
Please tell everybody here,make it clear,because it is very confusing what you said there,Thanks.

I said:The words:devil,satan,satanic,all refer to the invisible evil creatures we call by those names and nothing else.
Who are we? You may believe there are invisible creatures that YOU call by that name. But, I don't and many others don't either.
Whatever BluAngel,I dont get it how you can spin something very simple.
I ment we the people obviously,and I stated the fact when ever we use those words we refer to the devils and nothing else.
Like you should know I do believe that devils exist,so no need for you to keep saying you may believe blah,blah,blah...I do ,OK.
I know that most people dont believe that they do exist(so I understand that you dont neither),but most people are disbelievers in God,most people hate the truth.
You see I dont care what most people think,I make up my own mind.

I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE CULT WORSHIPS SATAN. PERIOD! I have not anywhere in this thread spoken about invisible creatures, etc., you have.
This an example why you confusing to me and I still dont understand where you stand here,you need to be clear.
You havent spoken about any invisible creatures,right,but you are using words devils,which mean the very same thing.
Here a link to wiki,describing the word devil:
Again BluAngel when you use words like devils thats what you mean!!!
How hard can this be.


I was saying you dont sound like you do believe in God,yet I read some of your post where you are saying that you do.
Feel free to tell what you really believe in.
Most people dont believe in God,even those who say they do,they really dont.
If you dont believe in God thats your problem not mine.
I do believe in God.


Yes and that is demons can take control over people.
Im not saying you was possessed by demons other than they can posses people,and when they do people have no control of what they are doing but the devils do,and that is how people cant remember of ever doing some things.

Praise be to God Lord of the Universe!!!
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:19 PM
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By the way you might want to email an admin to erase those pictures on page 132,after all is your thread.
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:03 PM
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BlueAngel wrote:
Tell ME, Konig19, why it is that you know for a FACT that the mind controllers, the satanic pigs literally attach invisible demons to their victims?

I have stated my opinion regarding this matter and so, too, has Ron Patton.

Now, tell US why you KNOW anything about this "satanic ritual."

BluAngel its part of our faith,Islam Christianity,and Judaism, to acknowledge the devils.
God warns us about them.
Demons can possess people take control with out any so called mind control programs.
What I know about satanic rituals is the fact that it has been going on for thousands of years.
It has not changed,its all the same,and all the cults are all the same, all worship satan.
Just look at ancient Egypt,Greece,The Aztec and the Mayan Empire,and all the rest.They all worshiped some gods,who were no more than the devils making impressions like they could do something like bring the rain or whatever.
They all practiced magic in some way or an other.
All sacrificed children, people,animals,to so called gods.
And those in cults still do so.
Devils always make people do immoral and evil acts in order for them to do some favors they might have promised.
The devils(Lucifer) are behind the New World Order,that is why so few people can control this world.
People believe lies are easy to deceive,most people are disbelievers,most people hate the truth,the very reason why people have no problem accepting lies.
The Protocols warn those behind NWO to do everything possible to mislead people away from God,it states if people would believe in God than there would be justice.
Thats my quick answer to your question,there are many facts which prove the existence of the devils.
You dont have to agree with me Angel,but it is my answer to your question.
Praise be to God Lord of the Universe!
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:10 PM
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konig19 wrote:
By the way you might want to email an admin to erase those pictures on page 132,after all is your thread.
As you are aware, I did not post those pictures. As disgusting as they are, everything serves a purpose.

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Old 07-25-2007, 10:57 PM
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Always love the way you quote everything instead of just writing a damn reply.So in order to reply to all what you said I would have to quote everything you said plus include what I said previously which would make a damn long reply.

Im gonna make this short.
Believing that devils exist,does not mean one worships the devils.
Having said that I do not worship the devils.
Im just aware how they operate,and Im also aware of how to protect myself from them.

The word devil,satan,lucifer,demons,all refer to supernatural,invisible creatures.
You can visit wiki here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon to check it for yourself.

Saying the word devil,demon,satan,and thinking it has a different meaning is nonsense,is being delusional.
I still would like your explanation on what do all those cults worship,since the word devils in your mind mean something else other than that,what we call supernatural,invisible.
You never explained yourself on that.
Other than saying I dont worship devils.
Never meant you did.

I never said I dont hold humans responsible for there actions.
Humans are responsible for everything that we do,even if the devil might have enticed us to do something bad.
I wouldnt have a reason to reply if you didnt misquote me all the time,like saying I worship the devils and so on,God Forbid.

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