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Old 07-25-2007, 11:05 PM
konig19 konig19 is offline
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This is God speaking to the mankind.
Its God's words.
In the Name of God,Most Gracious,Most Merciful

He (Satan) said, "My Lord, since You have willed that I go astray, I will surely entice them on earth; I will send them all astray. Except those among Your worshipers who are devoted absolutely to You alone."

He (God) said, "This is a law that is inviolable: you have no power over my servants; you only have power over the strayers who follow you." [15:39-42]

He (God) guides some people while others are committed to straying. They have chosen the devils as their masters, instead of God, YET THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE GUIDED. [7:30]

...He (Satan) and his tribe can see you, while YOU DO NOT SEE THEM. We appoint the devils as companions of those who do not believe. [7:27]

(Satan said,) "I will come to them from before them, and from behind them, and from their right, and from their left, and You will find most of them un-appreciative." [7:17]

"You may entice them with your voice, and mobilize all your forces and all your men against them, and share in their money and children, and promise them. Anything the devil promises is no more than an illusion. As for My servants, you have no power over them." Your Lord suffices as an advocate. [17:64-65]

And the devil will say, after the judgment had been issued, "God has promised you the truthful promise, and I promised you, but I broke my promise. I had no power over you; I simply invited you, and you accepted my invitation. Therefore, do not blame me, and blame only yourselves. My complaining cannot help you, nor can your complaining help me. I have disbelieved in your idolizing me. The transgressors have incurred a painful retribution." [14:22]

The Devils are a fact,and are a part of our faith,that is Christianity,Judaism,and Islam.

Again people might want to read this:
How Satan hypnotizes humanity?
By Dr. Douglas Brown
Hypnosis is a trance-like condition characterized by an altered state of consciousness, diminished will power, and an increased responsiveness to suggestion. People differ in their suggestibility to hypnosis. A person cannot be hypnotized against his will; he must obey the suggestions of a hypnotist. Hypnosis has been employed to help people with physical and psychological diseases, as well as for harmful purposes. An effective hypnotist is skilled in gaining the confidence of his clients. He knows that 'it takes two', the client and himself, to produce the desired effects. Our concern here is with the Master Hypnotist who misleads humanity in masses. The Master Hypnotist also gains the trust of his subjects. But, unlike human hypnotists, he is invisible.
Satan meets and even exceeds the qualifications of a hypnotist because he knows when and how to make his suggestions, according to a person's mind, character, desires and habits. He has considerable knowledge of human nature, and he has thoroughly succeeded in rendering millions of humans unable to use their minds.
People who are unappreciative of God are hypnotized by Satan without their knowledge. Countless millions of people say, "I believe in God," when in fact their hearts do not mean it. Their utterance is no more than lip service to go along with parents, friends, or the society at large. Whenever they have opportunities to break away from deception and doubt, they cling to fabricated falsehoods. This leaves them susceptible to Satan's hypnosis. For the Master Hypnotist is given access to the person's true intentions and innermost beliefs, not outward appearances and lip-service utterances. By going against their God-given instinct to worship God alone and uphold His word alone, people enable the Master Hypnotist to set them up for self-destruction behind an invisible barrier.
Satan gradually instills his suggestions into the minds of his subjects; ideas counter to the worship God alone. Satan hypnotizes his subjects into doing anything that reflects disbelief, idol-worship, or hypocrisy.
They are like the devil: he says to the human being, "Disbelieve," then as soon as he disbelieves, he says, "I disown you. I fear God, Lord of the universe." [59:16]
A trained hypnotist slowly infuses his directives into the subject's mind because this "drop by drop" approach helps the subject understand the instructions. But, in Satan's case, it is a matter of making a person feel at home with negative prompts. God protects His sincere servants from the Master Hypnotist's obvious and subtle attempts to hypnotize them.
Praise be to God,Lord of the Universe.

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Old 07-26-2007, 12:57 AM
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I didn't read this whole thread, as I just joined.

Upon seeing this , from hitting a link , I had to comment. There is a fabulous video called they sold their souls for rock n roll. I seen the 10hr version and it is quite telling of the industry.

Years ago my father tried telling me about it, but as your typical dumb kid, I thought he was goofy.

Dad, as usual, was right about that and quite a few other things as well.

There is no doubt we are and have been in a war between good and evil for a long long time. We won't not be able to stop that which is written , we can only show it to people who are willing to listen.
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Old 07-26-2007, 10:03 AM
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" How many years ago did your father try telling you about the "corrupt" music industry? What did he know and how did he know it? Did he try to inform you because you had an interest in music?"

ohhhh, late 60's early 70's ! Dad's gone now so I can't ask where he got that. But it was probably "the spotlight". Yes I had an interest in music, not as much now , altho I still enjoy it. It is different after seeing that video.

I suppose what it boils down to is...the mantra like quality , gets you into a suggestible state. We as a people HAVE been brainwashed [ a methodical slow infection of corruption into society , twisting the truth and changing [ suggestible minds ]]...and "they're" not through with us neither!

" What is "that which is written?" Where is it written?"

About "the end times"....the book of Daniel , and the Revelation.

I heard a great audio on this , by Dee Zahner called , "The secret side of history , mystery babylon and the NWO". It included lots of scriptural quotes.
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:26 PM
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OK,lets get this straight,gah...you claim "satanic cult's" worships the devils,but than again you dont believe that devils exist.
OK,got it.

I do understand that all cults worship the devils.
I also know that devils exist.
There is a reason why the meaning of the word cult,is hidden knowledge.Those people feel like they know something most people dont.
The truth is most people dont want to know.

Never did I say devils are responsible for anything people do,so you are clearly wrong.
See,if I did believe what you are saying,than I would not post and believe in this verse:

And the devil will say, after the judgment had been issued, "God has promised you the truthful promise, and I promised you, but I broke my promise. I had no power over you; I simply invited you, and you accepted my invitation. Therefore, do not blame me, and blame only yourselves. My complaining cannot help you, nor can your complaining help me. I have disbelieved in your idolizing me. The transgressors have incurred a painful retribution." [14:22]

It clearly states;people are responsible,the devils have no power over anyone,they simply invite people to believe and trust them.
Therefore people are blamed for there actions,like stated in the verse.We all have the power to make our own decisions,if we follow the devils or not its up to us.

I dont worship the devils, and dont sound like I do.
I dont get it how you come to such conclusion?

Angel,I do not believe in anything,I dont believe in guesses and opinions,but I believe in the truth.And the truth can be verified,my faith is not blind.
I dont trust anyone but God, I follow God's Scriptures,not peoples opinions.
You dont believe in what I believe,most people dont believe in God,so it dont surprise me.
But that does not make my beliefs false,and it isnt,never will be.
I dont want guesses,and opinions,I dont what to loose myself in some wishful thinkings.I want the truth,even if I dislike the truth,I have no choice but to accept it.
God says;We have give you the eyes,brains,and the ears,you are responsible for using them.

I'd say , you must live a paranoid life.
Im not confused,I dont follow,guesses and opinions.
There is only one truth everything else is falsehood(guesses,opinions).

Trust me I wouldnt call you paranoid if you didnt say that to me first.I have no problem discussing things with people intelligently even if I disagree with them.
I dont care what people believe or think,or think about my beliefs,you see facts speak for them self.
Praise be to God,Lord of the Universe.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:13 PM
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So, Gaz, (another foot soldier; spin doctor of The Boss') if Springsteen could have released 3 more decent albums from the 82-84 recordings without actually stepping foot back in the studio until the 90s, why didn't he?

Remember, Gaz is the poster who said, "whose voice did you think you were hearing? Charleton Heston's?"

This, when I reported on Springsteen's official site that I had embedded instructions not to suicide, after I awoke to memories of my past abuse; how to proceed, etc. and while in an altered state that they coerced, believing Springsteen was the person who rescued me from the cult.

These directions/instructions were embedded into my CORE with the assistance of my Protector's.
THEY WERE NOT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM instructions implanted by Bruce Springsteen in the past.

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Old 07-26-2007, 06:27 PM
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Whether or not I believe in the existence of devils has absolutely nothing to do with what others believe; with what others worship; whether they are a part of the "satanic cult" or not. Whether they believe these entities to be real, to be invisible or not has nothing to do with the fact that I don't acknowledge these entities. Do you think somehow what I believe regarding SATAN/LUCIFER/DEVIL effects what people who are a part of a "satanic cult" worship? I really don't understand why you're having a mental block on this subject. It's not that difficult to comprehend and I've explained it to you over and over and over again.
OK,got it!
Its said though that people can be so confused.
People will call on the evil people as devils,devil worshipers,will always make that connection.
Even Henry Makow on his site, he makes a lot of sense in his articles,he never makes the connection though.He calls upon the evil people as devil worshipers,uses the word a lot to describe the people behind NWO.
But cant understand the fact that there are invisible creatures working behind the scenes.
People think is just few bankers who are in control.NO,not so.The bankers are just satans slaves,they are satans followers,the very reason they dont care about people,but look down on us.Satan made them believe that they are the special few who have the right to do what hey please.
US Politicians,have quoted many times about the Hidden Government,Shadowy Government, Invisible Power,working behind the scenes.
A power so organized that you better not speak above your breath in condemnation of it.
And they are not talking about people.
To bad most people cant understand what they mean though.

Im sure you read that Bjerkins article on Henry's site.
He is somewhat right not,but not quite.
Shabatai Zvi soul has not,and can not transmigrate,he is dead.
He was just following satan,and after his death,it is satan who transmigrated down to the Rothschild dynasty.Or maybe I should say moved on to his next victims.

Yes, we know. You've made it quite clear that YOU KNOW that DEVILS exist. You're repeating. Those within the "satanic cult" are "sadistic pigs" who hide historic knowledge and the truth about themselves. Whom they worship; they're sexual deviant behavior; their vicitmization of society; their trauma-based torture mind control programs, etc., etc., etc. If you're referring to the fact that they have knowledge about the existence of INVISIBLE DEVILS
"that we don't know about and don't want to know about,"
I really think you're pushing it now.

See thats the problem,you dont want to know about it.Saying I dont believe into something is different than saying I dont want to know about it.Thats all I want to say here.
I know about it and I can see many facts that prove it.
Not to mention it is God who warn us about them.

You sound obsessed with devils.

Im not why would I be obsessed?

Here is an example,if you know anything about cults,you'll see that they do very stupid,evil,acts,like torture them self.
They only do so not because they like to torture them self,but to gain satans favors.
Others will torture animals to gain some favors.
Others do all kind of evil acts.
That is the point of sacrifice.
Its to humiliate yourself,and others,to gain favors.That makes people become satans slaves,thus people end up following them,doing all kind of evil,and dont see anything wrong with it.

On the other hand.
God never commands us to do evil,or sacrifice anything.
For example the story of Able and Cane,when they gave offerings,gifts, to God.
God excepted the offering of one but not the other.
Because one of them was not sincere,but was more to say joking.
God says it is not the gifts,or offerings that reach Him,but our goodness.
God is in no need of anything,God absolutely never commands injustice.

You don't believe in anything? That's a shame. You must be empty. If you don't believe in anything how then can you believe in the truth? What truth and how can it be verified?

Did not obviously mean that,to bad you misunderstand many things I say.
I meant I dont believe in just anything people tend to make up.
I believe in the things that are provable,like I said I believe in the truth.

Some reason why you keep insinuating that I don't believe in GOD?
Truly is not hard for me figure out if somebody believes in God or not.Actions speak for them self,its the only way to judge people,not what they say.
And yes, true, I dont obviously know for sure if somebody believes in God or not,only God knows our innermost intentions.

What truth are you searching for?
What a question.
You see Truth is only One.What is there after the truth but falsehood?
Having said that, I like the truth.

I dont' live a paranoid life. I live a life full of LOVE.
OK,I see,its ok for you to call others paranoid,but you dislike being told that.

You believe there is only one truth. I don't. You should speak for yourself only.
Maybe you like to explain yourself here other than just expect me to believe you, only because you said so?And why should I believe you this?It makes absolutely no sense.

What facts speak for themselves?
Well,the truth speaks for its self,facts are the truth.

Praise be to God,Lord of the Universe.[/quote]
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:56 PM
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BlueAngel wrote:
By the way, Konig19, you seem to find it astonishing that I claim those within the "satanic cult" worship the Devil/Lucifer/Satan.

I don't know why this confounds you so.

It's not like I'm the only person who has written this.

Search the web.

Inquire of those minds, who write the same, if they believe in the existence of devils.


Even Springsteen admitted to worshipping the DEVIL during one of his induction speeches at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

And, it wasn't only himself he was referring to!

I would surmise he is the "Satanic Cult" Leader within the music industry and the reason for the name, "The Boss."

Although, I did tell him more times than can be recollected that he wasn't "The Boss" of me.

He may be THE BOSS of all the others.

But, not ME!
OK,true,you are right,people do use the words satan,devil,demonic,to describe people in cults, etc.,as to say they are following the devils,only not to admit that there is no such things as devils.
To me thats hypocrisy.
Is not that people just state; those in cults say they worship devils,no,they keep calling them the devil worshipers.
W.Bush,wont tell you that he is in a satanic cult,yet everybody will connect him to the devil.
Sad people are bombarded with nonsense from all directions.Its spin Angel.

OK,you say Springsteen admitted that he worships satan.I have to say I didnt know.
I m sure there is a reason he said that.
And umm...if he was the boss,I mean the devil,than obviously he wouldnt say he worships the devil.
Im pretty sure he would come up with a more original name for himself(as his code name),if he meant himself as the devil.Why would he choose the name devil to refer to himself when such name already has a meaning, and so many other claim the same,clamming of being devil worshipers.
This is the only logical conclusion.
He is just the boss of the people(those within his cult),but he is a devil follower,worshiper,he said it.
Praise be to God,Lord of the Universe!
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:48 PM
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" What is the SPOTLIGHT? "

was supposedly the official thorn in the side of D.C.! [ cheers! I support anyone with the gonads to print the truth and ask honest questions. not to mention support the constitution.]

But there was a lawsuit and the spotlight closed down and reorganized and is now the american free press !


they still seem to be the only place you can get decent news. IMO , they put mainstream to shame.

dad even gave me a subscription , but I just didn't get it at the time. I wasn't ready. But eventually the truth penetrated my very thick skull , and I began to understand.
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Old 07-27-2007, 11:49 PM
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BlueAngel said:
I don't misunderstand. I comment on your written words.
Comment on the meaning of the post ,not words.

BlueAngel said:
Okay. But you believe in invisible devil creatures that can't be proven.
Easy proven,the evidence is everywhere.
Whether looking into ancient history,recent history ,or present.
Our Lord,our Creator, describes them for us well,and warns us about them.
If you dont see any evidence,thats your judgment not mine.

BlueAngel said:You're not suppose to judge people. It doesn't matter to me whether you think I believe in GOD or if you think I'm an atheist.
Yes we are responsible to judge,we are responsible to judge the people as well.
We are responsible to judge if somebody means us harm or others.
"When a wicked person brings you some news,investigate first,before you make a wrong judgment than feel sorry right afterwards."

Now to judge if somebody believes in God or not is not that hard,most the time.Simply because people dont follow God's Guidance,even though most will say that they do,but unfortunately there actions speak otherwise.
Ultimately God judges us all,and only God knows our true faith.

Truth is only One.What is there after the truth but falsehood?
BlueAngel said:
That's your opinion and not mine.

No Angel,its not my opinion it is the truth.
It can not possibly be otherwise.

BlueAngel said:
You believe there is only one truth. I don't. You should speak for yourself only.
BlueAngel said:
I didn't say anything that needs explanation nor did I say anything that I expected you to believe.

OK,fine Angel,you dont expect me to believe that,and I dont.Why would I?
I mean why would anybody believe that,Why do you believe so?
I do would like an explanation anyway,if you dont mind Angel.Simple question

BlueAngel said:
What truth speaks for itself and what facts support this truth? Simple question.

19x3=57 is True,we can prove this.
The fact that we are created is the Truth,we all can prove this to ourself just by thinking about it,we know we didnt create ourself,its the Truth.
The fact that sun and the moon serve life on this planet is the Truth.
The fact that we need watter to survive is the Truth.
The fact that the Universe is much bigger than people used to think is True.
The fact that fire is Hot is true.
I could go on an on.
But the point is,all these things can be easy proved,and can not be disproved,is what makes it the Truth.
We the people are responsible to think and make our own judgment about things,and not blindly follow others opinions.

How many times do most Christen say,Jesus died for our sins.We are expected to believe this?
All we have to do is think a little about it and conclude that it makes absolutely no sense,and therefore it must be false,it is false.
Jesus was a prophet and a messenger from God,he was a human being just like the previous prophets and messengers before him.Its the truth, it makes sense,God's Scriptures testify to this fact,Jesus never claimed of being anything else.

Jews are not the chosen people,the only people deserving Heaven,like most of them claim.
God has blessed the Jews more than any other people.God states this in the Quran.
Still most Jews ended up disbelieving.
God also says to the Jews in the Quran,If you think that you are the chosen people of all the other people,than why dont you wish for death if you are truthful,no they will never wish for it,instead they would love to live thousand of years.

Most Muslims today are also in the wrong,and that be over 90% or more.There is no Islamic Country,or so called Islamic Government.
Islamic teachings are very corrupt only because other books (so called Sunna books) beside the Quran are accepted as part of our faith.
Quran is for all the Mankind,not just Arabs,and Islam is not an Arabic religion.
Christianity,Judaism, is Islam.
All those religion come from Abraham,peace be upon him,he named us Muslims,Submitters in English.
The word Islam in not a name of religion but the description of our religion.
The word Islam means "submission", or the total surrender of oneself to God.Muslim, meaning one who submits to God.
"God calls this One religion that He decreed to all previous prophets Islam (Submission).
It is through this overall plan that we should understand the meaning of the phrase (the only religion acceptable to God is Islam). It does not mean that Islam is exclusively the religion of the Quran, nor does it mean that Islam is the religion first brought by Muhammad."
Islam can be translated into any language,thus you can be a Christen and be a Submitter to God(Muslim).
The sad thing is;Is not just that the Christen and the Jews,dont accept the Quran,but neither do most Muslims.Todays teachings of Islam are not based on the Quran.Quran disproves todays Islam.
Muslims do say they do,but actions speak otherwise.
People end up judging Islam by looking at the people instead of our religion.
And where can we find the description of our religion?Obviously in God Scriptures.
The Quran being most detailed,and preserved.

Im telling all this to point out how people are being mislead ,how people will believe anything.Even that which doesnt make absolutely no sense.

The truth is that all these fake satanic religious teachings can easy be disproved.
Truth is not hard to understand though.
God The Almighty,the Creator of the Universe and everything that exist is able to send Scriptures trough His messengers to His creation to guide us (explain things for us) in the right path.Its easy for God to do.

BlueAngel said:
You're saying because George W. Bush doesn't pronounce publicy that he's a part of a "satanic cult," it's just spin. I suppose you also believe that Rome was built in two days.

No Angel I do not believe in lies and in that which makes no sense,dont ever think that I do.So obviously Rome was not built in two days.
If others religious people believe anything,and most do,that dont mean that I do.
My religion is not anything,I dont believe anything.
Our religion is fully detailed.

By : A. Muhammad
It is a mistaken concept among Muslims (and non Muslims alike) that Islam is basically the religion of the Quran and the religion of Muhammad.
God tells in the Quran that Islam (Submission to God) is as old as Abraham (22:78), and that all the practices of Islam were first given to Abraham and his sons long before Muhammad was born.
- God taught Abraham and his sons all the rituals of Islam (Prayer, pilgrimage, Zakat ... etc see 21:73, 22:26-29). This took place long before the time of Muhammad.
2- Muhammad was in fact commanded to follow the religion of Abraham (16:123) .... This is described in the same verse as being Monotheism, which is submission to God without setting any idols besides Him. But God also tells Muhammad in verse 5:48 that within each revelation there are specific laws and rites that are specific to the receivers of this particular revelation. Hence the command is issued in 5:48 that Muhammad should follow the rites given to him in the Quran and NOT the rites of previous people.
"God’s description of the Quran as 'COMPLETE' (6:115), 'FULLY DETAILED' (6:114), that 'NOTHING' has been left out of it (6:38) and that it offers ‘explanations for EVERYTHING’ 16:89."
My religion is not anything,but is fully detailed in the Quran,just like God tells us.

This is a little long,I know.
But please read it,it explains many things,even if you disagree with it.
You asked me about truth,and religion is truth,the reason I talk about it.

You are right Angel,here are people in this thread who obviously are only here to make you look bad,trying make you look like a lier,and who are messing with you.
Got to watch out for shadows.
You might think Im one of those,but trust me Im not,I did not come in here to call you a lier based on what you are saying about the Music Industry.Or what you are saying about Springsteen.
I just wanted to point out to you that there is more to Mind Control than most people think.
Im almost done here though,maybe one more post and thats it.There is no point going in circles,unfortunately is how most arguments end up

Praise be to God,Lord of the Universe!
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Old 07-28-2007, 12:49 AM
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"The SPOTLIGHT was what? A magazine, a newspaper? It reported on the "corrupt" music industry? How so? What did it say?"

sorry , it was a newspaper! it reported on everything it seen that it thought wasn't right.

and since dad is gone I can't ask him what they said about it. sorry.

If you clik that american free press link , you can see for yourself what they cover, I think there a free issue in pdf you can download.
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