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Old 07-29-2007, 07:21 PM
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This is all quite interesting... I couldn't finish it all on one sit down, but I got the gist of it. Bruce Springstein, eh? Somehow, I believe you BlueAngel. This guy has always been a media darling.. Seriously, has there ever been a negative story about the guy? He's made out by the press to be the quintessential American hero (more like god.)

And I'm well aware that the music and entertainment industries are MK-Ultra/CIA playgrounds. Marlyn Monroe had all of the markings of a sex slave. Just watch the Kubrick flick "Eyes Wide Shut," which is an illuminati homage to Monarch slaves. Hell, it starts in the title with the classic double speak used in programming.

Cathy O'Brien mentions Nashville Tennessee and the country music industry as being a hotbed for this type of activity. Much of it was moved to Branson, Missouri and Northern Arkansas in the 80's. I guess that Clinton used to hang out there a lot.

Do you know anything about that area and its current operations, given that I'm from Missouri? I read that a large CIA base located in Lampe, Missouri is where they run the Branson operation. Basically, this region was set up as a massive drug smuggling highway in the early 80's (they love to operate in rural areas, like Nebraska and the Midwest).

Also, you say that you were part of their cult. Did they use familiar spirits, etc. Sell their souls to the devil and that sort of thing? Sort of like the recent movie "Tenacious D" makes a spoof of. What was this cult, besides Satanic?

Also, do you think that Chris Benoit was a Monarch Slave suicide?

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Old 07-29-2007, 10:26 PM
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Okay. But you believe in invisible devil creatures that can't be proven.

BlueAngel,had you lived let say 500 hundred years ago before the invention of the microscope you wouldnt believe that bacteria existed either.
And if somebody would tell you,people are getting sick because of little invisible creatures,you would call them insane.
Even scientist at the time of the discovery of bacteria by Antony van Leeuwenhoek around 1700 hundred didnt believe him at first,not until they couldn't deny it,by having see it themself.
Not knowing something,not trying to understand something,does not mean is not there.
Bacteria was always there,in fact its the oldest living organism and yet nobody pretty much believed that bacteria existed until just recently.

There is ample evidence supporting the existence of other creature (beside us), which we can not see,creatures which are working behind the scenes.


It's impossible to see evidence if something is invisible. Again, Lucifer was introduced into the Bible for their EVIL purposes.

Many things in science are invisible,like I told you above,bacteria is invisible and most people didnt believe it existed.Yes I know bacteria is visible to our eyes right now because we can see it with special equipment.
Gravity is invisible,we can not see it,but we believe in it.Its an invisible force,which we can not see .But that does not mean we cant prove it exist.We prove Force of Gravity not by looking at it(because its invisible,cant see it) but by experiments which prove its affect.


Lucifer,the devils,were not introduced as something imaginary to scare people.
But it is God who tells us about them,the Bible is truly God's Book,but unfortunately it is
corrupt,something we all have to be aware of.


Quran:
[5:48] Then we revealed to you this scripture, truthfully, confirming previous scriptures, and superseding them. You shall rule among them in accordance with GOD's revelations, and do not follow their wishes if they differ from the truth that came to you. For each of you, we have decreed laws and different rites. Had GOD willed, He could have made you one congregation. But He thus puts you to the test through the revelations He has given each of you. You shall compete in righteousness. To GOD is your final destiny - all of you - then He will inform you of everything you had disputed.



If I don't know someone, I don't judge. If I know someone is evil, it is not a judgment. It is fact.
Whatever,it makes no sense Angel.
To label somebody an evil person,you have to judge that person on his/her actions.
You dont just say,Oh..what an evil person!,and I know he is,because its a fact.
No, nobody whats to hear that.
What people want to hear is why you think a person is evil,what is it that that person did,so people can make there own judgment about that person.



I don't follow the Quran.

Neither do most so called Muslim follow the Quran,only because they dont want to understand it.
Quran:
[3:7] He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this - all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed.



Truth is only One.What is there after the truth but falsehood?

Again, for you, there is only one truth. Not for me.

You are deliberately misunderstanding what Im trying to say.
Let me say it again:There is only one truth,everything else is falsehood.
The truth is that God created us and everything that exist.
There is only one truth how life came into being,there is no several truth.

Quran:
[7:54] Your Lord is the one GOD, who created the heavens and the earth in six

days, then assumed all authority*. The night overtakes the day, as it pursues it persistently,

and the sun, the moon, and the stars are committed* to serve by His command. Absolutely,

He controls all creation and all commands. Most Exalted is GOD, Lord of the universe.

[10:3] Your only Lord is GOD; the One who created the heavens and the earth in

six days, then assumed all authority*. He controls all matters. There is no intercessor,

except in accordance with His will. Such is GOD your Lord. You shall worship Him.

Would you not take heed?

[11:7] He is the One who created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His

(earthly) domain was completely covered with water - in order to test you, to distinguish

those among you who work righteousness. Yet, when you say, "You will be resurrected

after death," those who disbelieve would say, "This is clearly witchcraft*."

[27:60] Who is the One who created the heavens and the earth? Who is the

One who sends down to you from the sky water, whereby we produce gardens full of

beauty - you could not possibly manufacture its trees? Is it another god with GOD?

Indeed, they are people who have deviated.

*11:7 The six days are simply a yardstick providing us with a lot of information. Thus, we learn that the vast lifeless physical universe was created in two days, while the tiny mote called "Earth" was created in four days (41:10-12). The provision of food, water,
and oxygen for the earth's inhabitants had to be precisely calculated and arranged.
**11:7 The earth was initially covered with water. Subsequently, the land mass emerged, and the continents drifted apart.



More truth, possibly? Again, it is your opinion that there is only one truth.

Yes,there is only one truth,not an opinion,but the truth



I thought you said there was only ONE truth? Seems like you've listed a whole lot more. Really? People are responsible to think and make our own judgments. You're not imparting anything WE don't know as we're not blindly following other's opinions. If that's not obvious to you, I'd say you are blinded.
You are missing the point,when I say there is only one truth.
The fact that 19x3is 57 is the truth,is the one truth,19x3 will never be 56.
The fact that the Earth and the Moon serve life on this planet is the truth.
You can not say we can exist with out either one,because we cant.


This thread isn't about religion/the Quran. This thread is about mind control within the music industry.

You asked me about the truth,God is the Truth.
The truth is:Truth is being pushed aside,most people will follow others opinions rather than the truth.
The truth is people are following corrupt/false,religious teachings.
But most people dont care,most people love it,most people attack corrupted religious beliefs all the time,24/7,in order to prove religion is nothing but a lie.
When in fact those people will never argue intelligently about religion,but will joyfully credit all the evil that people do to religion.

God never commands injustice amongst the people.
Its the TRUTH.



It's a "satanic cult" and it isn't FAKE.

I know it isn't fake,those people have sided with the devils.They worship the devils,even they will tell you,but not all do.Bush wont tell you,for a reason.



You say, my religion is not anything. I don't believe anything, but yet, you say, OUR RELIGION IS FULLY DETAILED. I think you're slipping.
Truly you are slipping woman.
Like I said I dont believe in anything(I know what meaning this has by itself,never said it without explaining the meaning behind it),meaning anything that makes no sense,which is just peoples opinions and guesswork.
Most people tend to believe anything others come up with, without any proof.
I believe in the truth which can be proven ,and which makes all the sense.Truth is not anything,but its the truth.

I have no doubt,I know,that most people are confused,because they follow,and believe in that which is nothing more but wishful thinking.
And most people dont care.


Quran

[1:1] In the name of GOD, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.*

[1:2] Praise be to GOD, Lord of the universe.

[1:3] Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

[1:4] Master of the Day of Judgment.

[1:5] You alone we worship; You alone we ask for help.

[1:6] Guide us in the right path:

[1:7] the path of those whom You blessed; not of those who have deserved wrath, nor of the strayers.

113:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

[113:1] Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of daybreak.

[113:2] "From the evils among His creations.

[113:3] "From the evils of darkness as it falls.

[113:4] "From the evils of the troublemakers.

[113:5] "From the evils of the envious when they envy."

[114:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

[114:1] Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of the people.

[114:2] "The King of the people.

[114:3] "The god of the people.

[114:4] "From the evils of sneaky whisperers.

[114:5] "Who whisper into the chests of the people.

[114:6] "Be they of the jinns, or the people."



O you who believe, you shall embrace total submission; do not follow the steps of Satan, for he is your most ardent enemy. [2:208]

Satan found them readily fulfilling his expectations. They followed him, except a few believers. [34:20]

O you who believe, do not follow the steps of Satan. Anyone who follows the steps of Satan should know that he advocates evil and vice. If it were not for GOD's grace towards you, and His mercy, none of you would have been purified. But GOD purifies whomever He wills. GOD is Hearer, Knower. [24:21]

Satan is real,not only that,but can control,influence, people for his evil cause.

Peace.
Praise be to God,Lord of the Universe![/quote]
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Old 07-31-2007, 10:37 AM
KennyWally KennyWally is offline
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BA,

since I saw no response , I'll assume you missed my comment's
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BA said ;

"The SPOTLIGHT was what? A magazine, a newspaper? It reported on the "corrupt" music industry? How so? What did it say?"



sorry , it was a newspaper! it reported on everything it seen that it thought wasn't right.

and since dad is gone I can't ask him what they said about it. sorry.

If you clik that american free press link , you can see for yourself what they cover, I think there a free issue in pdf you can download.


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and your story/comments reminds me a bit of cathy o'brien

http://www.trance-formation.com/

are you familiar with her and mark ?

if so , do you care to comment?
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:48 PM
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Jersey Shore Music Veteran Terry Magovern dies
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 07/31/07
KELLY-JANE COTTER
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Frank "Terry" Magovern, an influential presence on the Jersey Shore music scene for some 40 years, died Monday.

Note that Springsteen incorporates the names Terry and Frank and/or Frankie in several of his songs.

Magovern, of Rumson, was an early fan and supporter of Bruce Springsteen and many other musicians in Asbury Park's seminal music scene.

In the 1960s and '70s, Magovern managed bars and booked bands in nearby beach towns, including D'Jai's in Belmar, the Riptide in Point Pleasant Beach and the Captain's Garter (later the Headliner) in Neptune. In the early '80s, Magovern managed Big Man's West in Red Bank, a club owned by E Street Band saxophonist Clarence Clemons.

Magovern worked with Springsteen in myriad capacities, on tours and in the studio, but was most often described as a personal assistant to Springsteen. On the liner notes to Springsteen's 1995 album, "The Ghost of Tom Joad," Magovern is credited for research."

But, MadMel said Springsteen did intensive research for this CD regarding illegal immigration. What capacity did Frank serve in the studio and on tours with Springsteen? What were his music credentials?

Magovern also worked with Clarence Clemons during the saxophonist's time with the Red Bank Rockers.

Any musician, reporter or fan who spent time on the Springsteen circuit eventually ran into Magovern, whose imposing physical presence - he was a NAVY veteran - and deep voice belied his kind personality.

"He was a gentle giant," recalled Jimmy Vivino,, guitarist for the Max Weinberg Seven and for the Fab Faux, among many other projects. "He always had the time to help me out and be a friend. He was a confidant. He always had a twinkle in his eye, like he had inside information, but he couldn't tell you."

After the death of his fiancee, Joan Dancy, in 2005, Magovern became an advocate for people suffering from Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis, commonly known as Lou Gehrig's disease. Dancy died of ALS, and she had asked Magovern to create a support group that would help others in her situation. Magovern founded Joan Dancy and PALS, based at Riverview Medical Center in Red Bank.

Magovern's work with PALS continued until his death. On July 1, he was featured in a story in the Asbury Park Press about $183,000 raised for PALS by Shop-Rite and its customers.

It is not yet known who will serve as Magovern's successor in PALS.

Magovern also was involved with other local charities, including Holiday Express, which brings live music and gifts to needy or isolated people every December, and Light of Day, which supports research into Parkinson's Disease.

Magovern also was involved with Apple Jack Canine Kennels in Maryland, which trained bomb-sniffing dogs for the military. He also developed a program to train dogs for use as companions and protectors of women who have been victims of domestic violence.

Magovern grew up in Belmar, where he attended St. Rose High School.

He was a four-year veteran of the U.S. Navy, completing Special Warfare Training. He specialized in underwater demolition work before being assigned to work with the Mercury space program and the original seven Mercury astronauts.

He is survived by his daughter, Laurie Guinan, and son-in-law, Michael Guinan, both of Eatontown; his son, Sean Magovern, and daughter-in-law, Andrea Magovern, both of Avon; five grandchildren, Michael and Matthew Guinan and Michael, Kyle and Maggie Magovern; and eight siblings, Dennis, Richard, Robert, James, Brian, Mary and Patrick Magovern, and Lee Boydman.

He was predeceased by his parents, Frank and Rosalie Magovern.

Did Springsteen use a derivative of Frank's mother's name Rosalie for his song, "Rosalita?"

A memorial service is scheduled for 2 p.m. Thursday at United Methodist Church of Red Bank, 247 Broad St. Arrangements are by Thompson Memorial Home, 310 Broad St., Red Bank.

Memorial donations can be made to the Joan Dancy & PALS Support Group, Riverview Medical Center, 1 Riverview Plaza, Red Bank, NJ, 07701.

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So, is it just me or do you find it somewhat interesting that this is the second person, so far, in Springsteen's life that was involved with NASA? Remember, Carl "Tinker" West was involved in NASA, as well, and possibly other clandestine operations. There is a third person who was with the Navy, DNA; a poster on Springsteen's site, who mentioned that he has personally known the glorious Mr. Springsteen for 30 plus years.

I also believe Paddy/Patriot has insinuated some connection to NASA.

We know that "high tech" mind control programming and experimentation took place at NASA on children.

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Old 07-31-2007, 07:35 PM
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Oh, wow! I've been talking lately to my family members about how I feel out of the loop. Just a sayin'. Nothing to it, really.

Anyway, Pamela just commented she feels "out of the loop."

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Old 07-31-2007, 08:41 PM
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Was Carl "Tinker" West; a rocket scientist; involved in clandestine operations; NASA and Terry "Frank" Magovern; a NAVY veteran, tactical warfare specialty; assigned to the Mercury Space Program; NASA, PROGRAMMERS?

A rocket scientist and a Navy veteran working on the Mercury Space Program involved with Springsteen and other musicians.

Springsteen sings about a Terry and a Frank and/or Frankie.
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Old 07-31-2007, 09:13 PM
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2Hearts comments that their imaginery pretty, little pussy cat, Figgy wants somebody to pay attention to her.

WOAH!!!

MadMel tells FIGGY to jump into her lap and she'll give her a kitty massage.

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Old 07-31-2007, 09:19 PM
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Was Carl "Tinker" West; a rocket scientist; involved in clandestine operations; NASA and Terry "Frank" Magovern; a NAVY veteran, tactical warfare specialty; assigned to the Mercury Space Program; NASA, PROGRAMMERS?

A rocket scientist and a Navy veteran working on the Mercury Space Program involved with Springsteen and other musicians.

Springsteen sings about a Terry and a Frank and/or Frankie.
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Old 07-31-2007, 09:29 PM
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DNA talking to Figgy...

Hey, Figsters, did you know my Yanks hit 8 round-trippers this evening and not one of them by Mister 499? Simply amazing, puddy tat, simply amazing.

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Old 08-01-2007, 12:04 PM
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Terry Magovern died in his sleep. The cause of death was not immediately known.

He joined Springsteen in 1987 during his Tunnel of Love Tour.

I wonder what role he played?
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