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Old 12-29-2004, 08:39 PM
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Wow...great catch, Ellar.
This Diego Garcia angle bears watching.

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Old 12-30-2004, 05:28 AM
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Ellar... i feel somewhat physically ill reading the articles from England. And the truth is?

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I found the following explanatory letter about Diego Garcia posted at whatreallyhappened.com. If the island has a natural protective barrier against a tsunami, this would be known by the military and appropriate scientific personnel.

READER: Greetings Michael. Allow me to explain why Diego Garcia suffered little or no damage to it. I can testify to this because I spent some duty time there. To prove that point, it is THE best saltwater fishing in the world! You will see why here.

Diego Garcia is an atoll shaped like a “V” that has been punched a couple of times because the jagged shape. From the top of the V to the bottom is roughly 15 miles, but from tip to tip, it is approx 35 miles (if my memory serves me correctly). The Island is not very wide, maybe a few hundred yards max? At the top of the V is the opening of the lagoon. The lagoon at the mouth is about 150 + feet deep. Of course the other end being very shallow. While I was there the Seabees started construction of a deep pier inside the lagoon to reach out to about 100-foot depth. This was so that large Sub-tenders could pull pier side as opposed to being anchored. The lagoon was the only area one was allowed to swim or snorkel and for good reason. Large fish that love things that are soft and smooth on the outside and crunchy on the inside. The open end of the V has three small Island that make up the lagoon entry. If one tried to wad to the closest of the three Islands at all would be subject to immediate dishonorable discharge after maybe serving time! If they made it back alive. Case in point, two guys did make it to the one Island, but on the return, the leading guy turned around and his buddy was gone without a peep. He was found a few days later, down coast, chewed up good! Now lets get to the ocean side shall we?

The ocean side is surrounded by a barrier reef. The bottom of the ocean does not gradually rise up to the sand. This reef starts along the beautiful sandy beach and has a flat top to it that stretches out at least 50 feet from the coast. During low tide the water maybe 5 feet deep across the top of it out to the end of the reef. On a calm day you could see very large fins on the surface! At the edge of the reef is a wall! This reef wall drops down to over three hundred feet deep if not more! So as you may see here, the reef wall absorbed most of the impact from the wave. I hope this helped.
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[This is posted for further analysis of the info already posted.]


Centre for Research on Globalisation
Centre de recherche sur la mondialisation

Foreknowledge of A Natural Disaster:
Washington was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean

by Michel Chossudovsky

www.globalresearch.ca 29 December 2004

The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/412A.html

Magnitude 9 Cascadia Earthquake

More than three hundred years ago, at 9 PM on January 26, 1700 one of the world's largest earthquakes occurred along the west coast of North America. The undersea Cascadia thrust fault ruptured along a 1000 km length, from mid Vancouver Island to northern California in a great earthquake, producing tremendous shaking and a huge tsunami that swept across the Pacific.

These events are recorded in the oral traditions of the First Nations people on Vancouver Island. The tsunami swept across the Pacific also causing destruction along the Pacific coast of Japan. It is the accurate descriptions of the tsunami and the accurate time keeping by the Japanese that allows us to confidently know the size and exact time of this great earthquake.

The recognition of definitive signatures in the geological record tells us the January 26, 1700 event was not a unique event, but has repeated many times at irregular intervals of hundreds of years. Geological evidence indicates that 13 great earthquakes have occurred in the last 6000 years.

Natural Resources Canada http://www.pgc.nrcan.gc.ca/seismo/hist/anniv.press.htm

The US Military and the State Department were given advanced warning. America's Navy base on the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean was notified.

Why were fishermen in India, Sri Lanka and Thailand not provided with the same warnings as the US Navy and the US State Department?

Why did the US State Department remain mum on the existence of an impending catastrophe?

With a modern communications system, why did the information not get out? By email, telephone, fax, satellite TV... ?

It could have saved the lives of thousands of people.

The earthquake was a Magnitude 9.0 on the Richter scale, among the highest in recorded history. US authorities had initially recorded 8.0 on the Richter scale.

As confirmed by several reports, US scientists in Hawaii, had advanced knowledge regarding an impending catastrophe, but failed to contact their Asian counterparts.

Charles McCreery of the Pacific Warning Center in Hawaii confirmed that his team tried desperately to get in touch with his counterparts in Asia. According to McCreery, director of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's center in Honolulu, the team did its utmost to contact the countries. (The NOAA in Hawaii's Report at http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2004/s2357.htm ).

His team contacted the US State Department, which apparently contacted the Asian governments. The Indian government confirms that no such warning was received. (The Hindu, 27 Dec 2004)

Nine (9.0) on the Richter scale: The Director of the Hawaii Warning Center stated that "they did not know" that the earthquake would generate a deadly tidal wave until it had hit Sri Lanka, more than one and a half hours later, at 2.30 GMT. (see Timeline below)

"Not until the deadly wave hit Sri Lanka and the scientists in Honolulu saw news reports of the damage there did they recognize what was happening... 'Then we knew there was something moving across the Indian Ocean,' said Charles McCreery. (quoted in the NYT, 28 Dec 2004 ).

This statement is at odds with the Timeline of the tidal wave disaster. Thailand was hit almost an hour before Sri Lanka and the news reports were already out. Surely, these reports out of Thailand were known to the scientists in Hawaii, not to mention the office of Sec. Colin Powell, well before the tidal wave reached Sri Lanka.

''We wanted to try to do something, but without a plan in place then, it was not an effective way to issue a warning, or to have it acted upon,'' Dr. McCreery said. ''There would have still been some time -- not a lot of time, but some time -- if there was something that could be done in Madagascar, or on the coast of Africa.''

The above statement is also inconsistent.

The tidal wave reached the East African coastline several hours after it reached The Maldives islands. According to news reports, Male, the capital of the Maldives was hit three hours after the earthquake, at approximately 4.00 GMT. By that time everybody around the World knew.

It is worth noting that the US Navy was fully aware of the deadly tidal wave, because the Navy was on the Pacific Warning Center's list of contacts. Moreover, America's strategic Naval base on the island of Diego Garcia had also been notified. Although directly in the path of the tidal wave (see animated chart below), the Diego Garcia military base reported "no damage".

"One of the few places in the Indian Ocean that got the message of the quake was Diego Garcia, a speck of an island with a United States Navy base, because the Pacific warning center's contact list includes the Navy. Finding the appropriate people in Sri Lanka or India was harder." (NYT, 28 Dec 2004, emphasis added)

Now how hard is it to pick up the phone and call Sri Lanka?

According to Charles McCreery, director of the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center.

"We don't have contacts in our address book for anybody in that part of the world."

Only after the first waves hit Sri Lanka did workers at National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre [PTWC] and others in Hawaii start making phone calls to US diplomats in Madagascar and Mauritius in an attempt to head off further disaster.

"We didn't have a contact in place where you could just pick up the phone," Dolores Clark, spokeswoman for the International Tsunami Information Centre in Hawaii said. "We were starting from scratch."

These statement on the surface are inconsistent, since several Indian Ocean Asian countries are in fact members of the Tsunami Warning System.

There are 26 member countries of the International Coordination Group for the Tsunami Warning System , including Thailand, Singapore and Indonesia. All these countries would normally be in the address book of the PTWC, which works in close coordination with its sister organization the ICGTWS , which has its offices in Honolulu at the headquarters of the National Weather Service Pacific Region Headquarters in downtown Honolulu.

The mandate of the ICGTWS is to "assist member states in establishing national warning systems, and makes information available on current technologies for tsunami warning systems."

Australia and Indonesia were notified. The US Congress is to investigate why the US government did not notify all the Indian Ocean nations in the affected area: "Only two countries in the affected region, Indonesia and Australia, received the warning"

"Although Thailand belongs to the international tsunami-warning network, its west coast does not have the system's wave sensors mounted on ocean buoys.

The northern tip of the earthquake fault is located near the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, and tsunamis appear to have rushed eastward toward the Thai resort of Phuket.

"They had no tidal gauges and they had no warning," said Waverly Person, a geophysicist at the National Earthquake Information Centre in Golden, Colorado, U.S., which monitors seismic activity worldwide. "There are no buoys in the Indian Ocean and that's where this tsunami occurred."" (Hindu, 27 Dec 2004)

The issue of the Ocean sensors is a Red Herring

The Hawaii Center was not able to warn them because they had no sensors in the Indian Ocean: That argument is a Red Herring.

We are not dealing with information based on Ocean sensors: the emergency warning was transmitted in the immediate wake of the earthquake (based on seismic data). The earthquake took place at 00.58 GMT on the 26th of Dec. The report was transmitted to The State Department and the US Navy following the earthquake.

With modern communications, the information of an impending disaster could have been sent around the World in a matter of minutes, by email, by telephone, by fax, not to mention by live satellite Television.

Coastguards, municipalities, local governments, tourist hotels, etc. could have been warned.

According to Tsunami Society President Prof. Tad Murty of the University of Manitoba:

'there's no reason for a single individual to get killed in a tsunami,' since most areas had anywhere from 25 minutes to four hours before a wave hit. So, once again, because of indifference and corruption thousands of innocent people have died needlessly." (Calgary Sun, 28 Dec 2004)

Key Questions

1. Why were the Indian Ocean countries' governments not informed?

Were there "guidelines" from the US military or the State Department regarding the release of an advanced warning?

According to the statement of the Hawaii based PTWC, advanced warning was released but on a selective basis. Indonesia was already hit, so the warning was in any event redundant and Australia was several thousand miles from the epicentre of the earthquake and was, therefore, under no immediate threat.

2. Did US authorities monitoring seismographic data have knowledge of the earthquake prior to its actual occurrence at 00.57 GMT on the 26th of December?

The question is whether there were indications of abnormal seismic activity prior to 01.00 GMT on the 26th of Dec.

The US Geological Survey confirmed that the earthquake which triggered the tidal wave measured 9.0 on the Richter scale and was the fourth largest quake since 1900. In such cases, one would expect evidence of abnormal seismic activity before the actual occurrence of a major earthquake.

3. Why is the US military Calling the Shots on Humanitarian Relief

Why in the wake of the disaster, is the US military (rather than civilian humanitarian/aid organizations operating under UN auspices) taking a lead role?

The US Pacific Command has been designated to coordinate the channeling of emergency relief? Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Rusty Blackman, commander of the 3rd Marine Expeditionary Force based in Okinawa, has been designated to lead the emergency relief program

Lieutenant General Blackman was previously Chief of Staff for Coalition Forces Land Component Command, responsible for leading the Marines into Baghdad during "Operation Iraqi Freedom."

Three "Marine disaster relief assessment teams" under Blackman's command have been sent to Thailand, Sri Lanka and Indonesia.

US military aircraft are conducting observation missions.

In a bitter irony, part of this operation is being coordinated out of America's Naval base in Diego Garcia, which was not struck by the tidal wave. Meanwhile, "USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group, which was in Hong Kong when the earthquake and tsunamis struck, has been diverted to the Gulf of Thailand to support recovery operations" (Press Conference of Pacific Command, http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2004/n12292004_2004122905.html ).

Two Aircraft Carriers have been sent to the region.

Why is it necessary for the US to mobilize so much military equipment? The pattern is unprecedented:

Conway said the Lincoln carrier strike group has 12 helicopters embarked that he said could be "extremely valuable" in recovery missions.

An additional 25 helicopters are aboard USS Bonhomme Richard, headed to the Bay of Bengal. Conway said the expeditionary strike group was in Guam and is forgoing port visits in Guam and Singapore and expects to arrive in the Bay of Bengal by Jan. 7.

Conway said the strike group, with its seven ships, 2,100 Marines and 1,400 sailors aboard, also has four Cobra helicopters that will be instrumented in reconnaissance efforts.

Because fresh water is one of the greatest needs in the region, Fargo has ordered seven ships — each capable of producing 90,000 gallons of fresh water a day — to the region. Conway said five of these ships are pre-positioned in Guam and two will come from Diego Garcia.

A field hospital ship pre-positioned in Guam would also be ordered to the region, depending on findings of the disaster relief assessment teams and need, Conway said. (Ibid)

Why has a senior commander involved in the invasion of Iraq been assigned to lead the US emergency relief program?

The Tsunami Timeline

Sunday 26 December 2004 (GMT)

00.57 GMT: Between 00.57 GMT and 00.59 GMT, an 8.9 magnitude earthquake occurs on the seafloor near Aceh in northern Indonesia. (See http://ioc.unesco.org/itsu/ and other reports)

00.58 GMT: Saturday 25 December, 2.58 pm Hawaii Time (GMT-10) 26 Dec 00.58 GMT. US government's Pacific Tsunami Warning Center registers the earthquake on its seismic instruments. In other words at the time of its occurrence at 00.58 GMT.

shortly after 01.00 GMT: Earthquake hits several cities in Indonesia, creates panic in urban areas in peninsular Malaysia. The news of the earthquakes is reported immediately.

01.3O GMT: Phuket and Coast of Thailand: The tidal wave hits to coastline shortly after 8.30 am, 01.30 GMT

02.30 GMT: Colombo Sri Lanka and Eastern Coast of Sri Lanka, the tidal wave hits the coastal regions close to the capital Colombo, according to report at 8.30 am local time, 02.30 GMT (an hour and a half after the earthqake)

02.45 GMT: India's Eastern Coastline. The tsunami hits India's eastern coast from 6:15 a.m.(2:45 GMT)

04.00 GMT: Male, Maldives: From about 9:00 am (0400 GMT), three hours after the earthquake, the capital, Male, and other parts of the country were flooded by the tsunami. (more than three hours after the earthquake)

11.00 GMT (approximate time according to news dispatches): East Coast of Africa is hit. More than ten hours after the earthquake

The animation below indicates approximate times at which the tidal wave hits the coastal areas of Indonesia, Thailand, Myanmar, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, India, Bangladesh, The Maldives.

Click on the image to see an animation (650 KB)

(Animation provided by Kenji Satake, National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology, Japan)

26 Dec 2004

Seismic Activity on Dec 26

(click http://www.pgc.nrcan.gc.ca/seisplots/long-period/200412/20041226.PGC.LHZ.24hr.gif

Note: extreme seismic activity prior to 01.00 GMT
The Richter Scale

US scientists in Hawaii had initially indicated that the earthquake was of a magnitude of 8.0 (ten times weaker than in the case a 9.0 earthquake on the Richter scale).

How can an error of this nature be made, with very sophisticated measuring equipment?

According to Natural Resources Canada:

"The magnitude of an earthquake is a measure of the amount of energy released. Each earthquake has a unique magnitude assigned to it. This is based on the amplitude of seismic waves measured at a number of seismograph sites, after being corrected for distance from the earthquake. Magnitude estimates often change by up to 0.2 units, as additional data are included in the estimate.

The Richter scale is logarithmic, that is an increase of 1 magnitude unit represents a factor of ten times in amplitude. The seismic waves of a magnitude 6 earthquake are 10 times greater in amplitude than those of a magnitude 5 earthquake. However, in terms of energy release, a magnitude 6 earthquake is about 31 times greater than a magnitude 5. The intensity of an earthquake varies greatly according to distance from the earthquake, ground conditions, and other factors. The Modified Mercalli Intensity Scale is used to describe earthquake effects." ( http://www.pgc.nrcan.gc.ca/seismo/eqinfo/richter.htm )
The following criteria are given by Natural Resources, Canada:

M=8: "Great" earthquake, great destruction, loss of life over several 100 km (1906 San Francisco, 1949 Queen Charlotte Islands) .

M=9: Rare great earthquake, major damage over a large region over 1000 km (Chile 1960, Alaska 1964, and west coast of British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, 1700) .

Source Natural Resources Canada: http://www.pgc.nrcan.gc.ca/seismo/eqinfo/richter.htm

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Old 12-30-2004, 06:47 PM
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Curiouser and curiouser...
I also ran across this article on Rense.com, which indicates that not only was Tesla able to create earthquakes artificially, but the UN and the U. S. Senate were both completely aware of this technology, even attempting to regulate it in the mid 1970s.

Human Engineered Earthquakes

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The January 1978 edition of Specula magazine ran an article which described an incredibly profound phenomenon that could be produced within the Earth by what is called the 'Tesla Effect.' According to the article, electromagnetic signals of certain frequencies can be transmitted through the Earth to form standing waves in the Earth itself. In certain cases, coherence to this standing wave can be induced wherein a fraction of the vast, surging electromagnetic current of the Earth itself feeds into and augments the induced standing wave. In other words, "much more energy is now present in the standing wave that the ...amount being fed in from the Earth's surface." By interferometer techniques, giant standing waves can be combined to produce a focused beam of very great energy. This can the be used to produce earthquakes induced at distant aiming points.
It might be good to go back and re-read the above paragraph a couple of times. This is one of the things which greatly concerned Mr. Tesla, because this is exactly the type of thing that could easily get out of control once it begins vibrating within the Earth and could actually cause the Earth to VIBRATE TO PIECES. Could the use of this technique have been responsible for the great earthquake in Tangshan, China in 1976?
One source, Dr. Peter Beter, has stated that, by 1977, the Russians had placed fission-fusion-fission Superbombs in certain deep undersea trenches around the Phillipines. The source believes that the Phillipines are in the position of a 'keystone' within the giant Pacific Tectonic Plate. Russia had already been setting off lower yield undersea weapons in other areas around the Pacific Ocean causing strong earthquakes.
Dr. Beter believes the intention was/is to relieve tensions all around the Pacific plate, except the Phillipines where stresses would build to tremendous levels. Then, at a certain point, the bombs around the Phillipines will be set off. It is expected that this will cause incredible earthquakes and tidal waves and ultimately devastate the American West Coast. Volcanoes erupting in the Phillipines are an indication that stresses are building in the area. (Readers need to understand that earthquakes and volcanoes are intimately connected and work hand in hand, with the one sometimes triggering the other, and sometimes the reverse. An earthquake can open vents deep in the Earth which allow lava to flow up. In other cases, the stresses driving volcanic activity can also cause earthquakes.
The January 30, 1981 edition of the Washington Post reported that in 1979 there were 56 significant earthquakes in the world, and that by 1980 the annual figure was up to 71. Coincidentally, in 1980 there was an increase in ELF transmissions by both Russia and the United States.
At this point, I feel it behooves me to issue a direct warning to anyone still living in Hawaii, the West Coast of the USA or any other Pacific basin areas so far unaffected by this phenomenon. Since neither the source nor even the epicenter of this disturbance seems to have been indisputably identified, certainly aftershocks or second waves are neither improbable nor impossible.
In other words, I'm still not betting against Ahmad's numerology, and anyone living anywhere within the area I just described should stay alert, monitor National Weather Reports, even seismic data for the immediate future.
I don't like to scare people, but I would feel remiss if I didn't issue this warning.
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WTF? my jaw is on the floor...

How can humanity be so inhumane?

Tere's gonna be hell to pay...what goes around, comes around.

I agree with your warning Freeman. Aftershocks... that's a point. Have their been aftershocks? When I lived in Ca, these things usually rumbled on a few times after the event... pretty close to the event too...

Dumb question: have there been aftershocks?

I've never been in one (an earthquake), that shook just the one time. They'd pause and rattle on a bit less, and a bit less, and finally they'd stop.

I smell a rat of a 911 variety and he's trying to shit on Christmas in another corner of the world, as usual, if I'm not mistaken.

A theory in the advertising.

911 sends off the alarm bells psychologically as date of event is the actual numerical numbers one dials in the case of an emergency. You can plainly see how that one works. Hogwart's henry! It's all in the advertising!

Daniel Goldberg(?), taught me in a book, "Emotional intelligence", that is possible to high jack emotions through the fight or flight response when a person is mentally reminded, in any way, of highly emotionally charged event. Constantly making those towers fall over and over again, ingrained that picture of events in our minds to be used for further programming. Fu#king bastards!!!!!!!

The result being a stunned deer in the headlights.... sheeple follow me,I'll protect you from the Osama boogieman and steal your freedom from under your Christian voting noses, while I completely rip apart the good 'ol U.S. of A; just like what Richard whatever did in Pretty Woman, after he bought up a company. The new owner of said company dismantled it and sold off the best bits for cash, and screw the little doobie making the donuts.

That is Monsters Inc - the New World Order scaring one child at a time, the world over. They won't be happy until we are all living their nightmare. back on track cuz it's not gonna happen.

German dude got us thinking about terror attacks and houston... this is NLP stuff.

I think he might have been letting us know to highly question what the Christmas season was to bring, as a gift from Houston.

Could be he was just egging us on and that's where my mind is leading to. Just a thought.

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I don’t know if any of you guys went into the site “Godlike Productions” - http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=104&topic=10&message=54181&mpage= &showdate=
pinpointed by Henry Makow, in his article “Another 9-11 Warning from German Intelligence?” http://www.savethemales.ca/000734.html, this is where the on-line chat w/ the “German Guy” takes place. I went there when Henry first wrote his article, & then again just moments before writing this “thread” & noticed the following piece written by “Anonymous Coward” - 12/30/2004 - 3:49 pm EST.

Now, put aside the speculations.

What are the chances that the biggest Earthquake in 40 years happened exactly 23 hours before (UTC) of the announced 12/27? There are pretty low.

Then, as someone else mentioned, Houston and payload could be a code. The center for all manned space flight operations of NASA is in Houston and precisely to the minute, one hour before the earthquake, the Russian Progress transporter docked with the ISS:

At the very minute of the earthquake, the ISS was at the antipode of the epicenter, that means, at the farthest position away from it on Earth.
That itself is not that important, mere another nice coincidence. However, from December 10 to January 1, the epicenter is never visible from the ISS:
http://heavens-above.com/passsummary.asp?lat=3.316&lng=95.853&alt=0&loc=Uns pecified&TZ=CET&satid=25544&Date=38341.4583333333& Mag=

That means, if there was something strange going on, like exploding some kind of weapon near the epicenter, no one on Earth and ISS could have seen it.
He mentions the fact that “at the very minute of the earthquake, the ISS was at the antipode of the epicenter,” “at the farthest position away from “it” on Earth.” Then he goes on to say that, “That itself is not that important, mere another nice coincidence.” Well I disagree, I think that if there is any relationship between the two, the fact that the ship was completely opposite to “it” on the other side of the planet might have some significant relevance. For example & theoretically speaking, & of course, if this information can be verified to be true, if “it” was triggered by a Tesla energy discharge, that would make the mathematics of the “transmitted beam” perfectly even. Think about it…

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Now I feel really ill.

Welcome to Star Wars.

I knew that fucking bastard(GWB) coming here (canada - part of cover up... did someone mention?) promoting Star Wars was not a good sign. They always fucking say what they are up to. I am so fucking mad right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really feel physically ill. I am so mortified at what they are doing. They do tesla shit here. It's real. Have no doubts. They disappear naval vessels. I mentioned it in another thread. My mouth feels like a sailor's right now cuz i want to swear til next week. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

There is going to be hell to pay.

Good God Almighty!
I pray for our souls.

I'm shaking. No shit.

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Did they forget to create the aftershocks?

Were there any aftershocks recorded, anywhere?



What's the advertising angle? Have they named this nightmare yet. We all know the NWO wants faith to go and it's feeding time for the lions and the Christmas Season. It's a multicultural holiday or nightmare, as it now appears.

Did you see the new Holiday season memoirs? WE've had the predicted fire of revelation 911. Now you are seeing the Hollywood version of Noah's flood on reality t.v.

I don't do t.v. news. I've seen enough t.v. subliminals, to know not to watch. And the pictures scar your mind. Too graphic for me. I can imagine it after i've seen it once, clearly. I don't need to see it over and over and over.

What kind of world have I brought my children into?

What was I thinking?

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Institute pasted this in a new thread

"Malaysia News:
It is time for prayers not celebration

Sheridan Mahavera & Alina Simon.


Anguished over the deaths and destruction from Sunday’s tsunami, Malaysian Prime Minister Hadji Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi called off all New Year celebrations throughout the country.

Moved and emotional, Abdullah said this was not the time to be merry.

He directed that all government-organised celebrations be replaced by prayers for the tsunami victims. The Prime Minister also requested the private sector to put on hold concerts and other festivities.

His requested two mammoth New Year Eve concerts - the AmBank group's concert at Dataran Merdeka and the "Countdown 2005" at Kuala Lumpur City Centre by Petronas to be canceled.

Abdullah said instead of merry-making, people should spend the eve of Jan 1 in remembrance and prayers for all of us and specially those who lost their family members and homes in the disaster.

His comments drew strong applause from the crowd.

"This is not the time to be happy as thousands of people are grieving. We have never had a disaster like this in modern history.

"Please take the opportunity to pray for them to be calm and patient in facing this catastrophe and pray that it will never again occur " Abdullah said.

He urged all Muslim imam and clergy of other religions to touch on the catastrophe in their sermons and prayer services."

Remember the advertising, henry... you have to agree. The trend has beenset in motion. Feel ashamed ofyour greed and gluttony was what was advertised in our localmediawhen a womansold her christmas diamond earings and sent the money to the victims aid "organization". It's Orwellian cacaphony.

Bombard their minds with greed then makethem feel guilty for that greed. Buy thecigarettes the government sells and be banished from society for smoking them.

We must feel for those people and not celebrate Christmas. It's not a time for greed but prayer - now go get to the mall for your boxing day madness and get yourself further in debt, it'll make you feel better.

That old man from the States, in the lumberjack uniform, oddly resembling uncle sam, will be replacing the kindly old white-haired red-suited dude from the north pole. Prayer and ask questions folks. Lots of both.

Looks like the greedy grinch is stealin' Christmas folks.

The new thread is time for prayers not celebration by institute... I believe they are advertising by calling for prayer that this was the will of God and not the work of the NWO. My two cents.

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