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Old 07-14-2005, 09:25 AM
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When I was 19 I was as dumb and ignorent as any.

I am now 34.

There was No internet when I was a lad. NO anti-war movement and NO Michael Moore making millions with extremely popular "reasonable" attempts at exposing a prat called Bush.

You join the army to be a hitman for capital...you're a fucking idiot.

The MArines are a death cult. Do you understand? Get your son out if you are serious about the truth.

There is NO honour in the armed forces...NONE, ZIP, NADDA and I have no time for whiny brats who dont have the courage to refuse to serve in a murderous war for capital and control.

A country is best served by pointing out it's faults.

The ability to shut your mouth and do as you're told is not honourable. Only weak minded fools join the armed forces in this day and age of open deciet.

GAWD DAMNIT, now you have totally ruined my day, TB.

You and others have to have some sympathy for those who are "brainwashed" from cradle to grave and do not know the truth about our government and their military.

It has been reported to me that they make "killing machines" out of them. It has been reported to me about the legislation trying to get through re the draft. It has been reported to me about the inaccurate numbers of dead and wounded. It has been reported to me that he and others know what is going on. He has his own brain, his own mind!!

EVERY Freakin' day, I kick myself for not demanding he steer clear of the Marines; however, they have very good recruitment officers who make it sound like money in your pocket. Not that he even needed the money. We're not poor, thankfully. We're not starving.

I think, being my son and knowing what I know gives him an advantage.

He is more enlightened than you may believe.

He would not allow me to interfere in "getting him out."

I have to grit my teeth and bare it for another couples of years.

Two to be precise.

I hear you about it being a death cult, and I have no grip with you there, but, TB, not everyone who is in the Marines is as easily manipulated as others might be.

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Old 07-14-2005, 09:56 AM
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HERE'S MY TWO CENTS:

Every American soldier who has fought in this war and who has been wounded should sue the government. The families of those who have been killed should sue the government.

OF course, this would only include those who know the truth about this "unjust" war.

and

how many families do you think there are who have loved ones in the military and know they were used for "immoral" purposes?

Our government put these men and women in harm's way without legitimate reasons. They used them for purposes which do not encompass their oath, their job description. There job is to protect America and her people and not the oil interests in Iraq and/or other countries. Their job is not to bring freedom to other countries through war under the government's propaganda machine of democracy. That, is not their job!!!

Our government put these men and women in harm's way based on LIES, "false" intelligence that they created in order to invade Iraq.

They knew there weren't any WMD's, they knew Saddam was not an imminent threat of danger to our shores, they knew he wasn't trying to purchase uranium and they knew there wasn't any connection to Al-Qaeda and 911.

What could be more clear? An elephant standing in your living room?
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:12 PM
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Okay, you didn't ruin my day. Just my morning!!
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Old 07-14-2005, 07:55 PM
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You must understand...

The United States Marine Corp is a "DEATH CULT".

The U.S Army is not.

The Marines are the SPECIFIC cannon fodder of the U.S Armed Forces.

If you love your son you will make efforts to convince him to leave.

If he is sent to Iraq, if you love him you will encourage him to DESERT. He can then stand tall before the public and proclaim that he will defend his country to the death but will not participate in the murder of innocents abroard as a hitman for the rich and powerful.

There is no shades of grey here.

God is quite specific on these points and he should fear God more than he fears the government.

People must make a stand NOW!

I have lost everything. And i'm still sticking it to them.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:28 PM
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You must understand...

The United States Marine Corp is a "DEATH CULT".

The U.S Army is not.

The Marines are the SPECIFIC cannon fodder of the U.S Armed Forces.

If you love your son you will make efforts to convince him to leave.

If he is sent to Iraq, if you love him you will encourage him to DESERT. He can then stand tall before the public and proclaim that he will defend his country to the death but will not participate in the murder of innocents abroard as a hitman for the rich and powerful.

There is no shades of grey here.

God is quite specific on these points and he should fear God more than he fears the government.

People must make a stand NOW!

I have lost everything. And i'm still sticking it to them.

So, what are you saying, TB?? If I don't make efforts to convince my son to leave, I don't love him? How dare you pass judgment like that upon me!!!

"If he is sent to Iraq and I love him, I will encourage him to Desert."

What are you saying?

If I don't encourage him to desert, I don't love him???

He does not fear GOD!!!!
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:12 PM
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Yes and thats the problem. No one fears God anymore.

You make much BA of your stance but allow your son to become embroiled with a criminal organization, built to serve the needs of a ruling Elite?

This is self evident.

Time for less talk and more action.

When I love someone and they join a cult...i encourage them out of it.

I may fail but I try.

There has never been a "just" war BA. Never.

Just state sanctioned murder for the benefit of a few Elite who spend alot of time working out how to keep the peasants in line and distracted.

There is no middle ground.

You are just words on a monitor...you sound like you care and are passionate about the subject.

Follow that up with a specific plan to protect your brood from becoming very stiff or very physically compromised via action in a criminal war of exploitation.

It is a simple concept which entails concrete action. Ones life must mirror ones rhetoric as closely as possible or we are just worthless words on a computer screen.
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:07 AM
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Yes and thats the problem. No one fears God anymore.

THAT IS THE PROBLEM AS YOU SEE IT. YOU CANNOT SPEAK FOR ALL OF MANKIND.

You make much BA of your stance but allow your son to become embroiled with a criminal organization, built to serve the needs of a ruling Elite?

ALLOW MY SON!! I DO NOT CONTROL MY SON NOR DOES ANYONE ELSE.

This is self evident.

SELF-EVIDENT. CERTAINLY, TB, YOU ARE PASSING JUDGEMENT AND YOU SHOULD FEAR GOD AS YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT THAT. YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT I ALLOWED MY SON TO BECOME EMBROILED WITH A CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION. AS I SAID, MY SON HAS A MIND OF HIS OWN. I COMMITTED NO CRIME AND YOU CAN STOP WITH THE GUILT TRIP.

Time for less talk and more action.

LESS TALK AND MORE ACTION?? WTF??? PLEASE FOCUS YOUR DEMANDS ON SOMEONE ELSE.

When I love someone and they join a cult...i encourage them out of it.

WELL, TB, YOU'RE JUST BETTER THAN THE REST OF US. PASSING JUDGEMENT AS TO MY CHARACTER SEEMS TO BE EASY FOR YOU.

I may fail but I try.

AGAIN, PASSING JUDGEMENT.

There has never been a "just" war BA. Never.

I HAVE NEVER CONCLUDED THERE HAS BEEN A JUST WAR.

Just state sanctioned murder for the benefit of a few Elite who spend alot of time working out how to keep the peasants in line and distracted.

There is no middle ground.

You are just words on a monitor...you sound like you care and are passionate about the subject.

YES, WE ARE ALL JUST WORDS ON A MONITOR. AND, YOU'RE SAYING I SOUND LIKE I CARE, BUT I MUST PROVE IT IN SOME OTHER WAY. GOD NEEDS NO PROOF, TB.

SORRY, BUT I HAVE MY OWN MIND.


Follow that up with a specific plan to protect your brood from becoming very stiff or very physically compromised via action in a criminal war of exploitation.

MY SON IS PROTECTED!!

It is a simple concept which entails concrete action. Ones life must mirror ones rhetoric as closely as possible or we are just worthless words on a computer screen.
WELL, THEN SINCE YOU BELIEVE THERE IS SOME ACTION I'M NOT TAKING TO PROVE I AM MORE THAN JUST WORTHLESS WORDS ON A COMPUTER SCREEN, I SUGGEST THE SAME APPLY TO YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE.

MY SON WILL NOT BE DISCUSSED HERE ANY LONGER. HE WILL NOT BE THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD. HE WILL NOT BE USED AS A PAWN IN A CHESS GAME.

Thank you for respecting me and my family.
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:18 AM
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There are two threads on this site already where I am the topic of conversation and this thread should return to the subject matter which was about US casualties and not my SON!!!

I don't appreciate it and I'm sure he wouldn't either.

It's called respect!!!
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:24 AM
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P.S. I have my own mind. I cannot be controlled and I don't take kindly to bullies.
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:49 AM
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Judgement?

You are familiar with the verse...remove the beam in thine eye before pointing to the splinter in mine?

BA you are on a public forum.

I will judge till the cows come home.

You made your son public property when you talked of him.

He is in an organization that kills people...because they will not submit to anglo/american/jewish values.

You can only do what you can do. I think you are very proud of him being in the Marines.

Do not sprout invective against the evil deeds of those in power while tolerating your sons membership of a criminal organisation.

Christianity has become "nice". But NO sacrifice for the truth. Gritting your teeth does'nt count.

Typing this and that on a keyboard means nothing if ones actions or inaction further the cause of the greatest danger the human race has faced since...

I am actually concerned for your son. For his mental and physical well being. You should demand he leave the Marines at the earliest oppertunity, not just because he is in physical danger but because it is a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION.

Surely you can grasp this?
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