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Old 08-03-2007, 06:28 PM
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Is Ron Paul a phony? (zionist stooge?) :-?

Why would a SENIOR MEMBER OF CONGRESS issue such a proposal? knowing full well AL-Queda is a U.S. Government creation?

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.3216:




http://www.iamthewitness.com/index.html

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Old 08-03-2007, 10:47 PM
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He's playing both sides of the fence like they all do.

Nothing knew!
Maybe, maybe not...


http://youtube.com/profile?user=RonPaul2008dotcom

either way, can anyone repair the damage done to America, besides GOD?
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Old 08-04-2007, 05:55 AM
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If either of you two seriously think Ron Paul is a Zionist (or any body else's) stooge, let me be the first to suggest that you GET REAL.

Obviously, something you are eating, drinking or smoking is affecting your brain.

Now is not the time to wimp out and hedge your bets. Get informed and TAKE A STAND. Either you believe in freedom and individual liberty or you don't.

Remember this:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

The MSM has done a helluva job of ignoring Ron Paul, then they laughed at him and his Constitutional stand on EVERYTHING, along with his legions of grass-roots supporters, who continue to increase on a daily basis. Their toady, Stephanopolis, was rude to Ron's face by laughing and telling him "It's not going to happen," meaning Ron being elected president.

They are gearing up for the next to the last phase where they fight him using every underhanded, lying, mendacious means at their disposal to discredit him. Money and influence will buy a bunch of liars. They plan to keep him busy putting out their "brush fires" so he can't keep getting the word out.

Ron Paul has been in the public eye for over 30 years with never so much as a breath of scandal. If there was anything they could have used they would have kept him out of Congress; in Texas, they threw money to his opponents, redistricted him, everything they could come up with and FAILED.

For two posters who have a reputation for being against the NWO, mind control, etc., I am saddened to see you join their forces by insinuating that Ron Paul could possibly be a Zionist stooge. Shame on both of you.

If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Nothing you have offered is any kind of proof to back up your insinuating "question." Is that the best you can do?

You have seriously lowered yourselves and your veracity in my eyes. Henceforth, I will cease to consider your posts as anything other than unprincipled verbiage.
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:37 AM
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I think Dr. Makow should weigh in with his opinion of Ron Paul or an article on his website, at least.
Apparently you need someone do your thinking for yourself.... :-?
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:46 AM
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If either of you two seriously think Ron Paul is a Zionist (or any body else's) stooge, let me be the first to suggest that you GET REAL.

Obviously, something you are eating, drinking or smoking is affecting your brain.

Now is not the time to wimp out and hedge your bets. Get informed and TAKE A STAND. Either you believe in freedom and individual liberty or you don't.

Remember this:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

The MSM has done a helluva job of ignoring Ron Paul, then they laughed at him and his Constitutional stand on EVERYTHING, along with his legions of grass-roots supporters, who continue to increase on a daily basis. Their toady, Stephanopolis, was rude to Ron's face by laughing and telling him "It's not going to happen," meaning Ron being elected president.

They are gearing up for the next to the last phase where they fight him using every underhanded, lying, mendacious means at their disposal to discredit him. Money and influence will buy a bunch of liars. They plan to keep him busy putting out their "brush fires" so he can't keep getting the word out.

Ron Paul has been in the public eye for over 30 years with never so much as a breath of scandal. If there was anything they could have used they would have kept him out of Congress; in Texas, they threw money to his opponents, redistricted him, everything they could come up with and FAILED.

For two posters who have a reputation for being against the NWO, mind control, etc., I am saddened to see you join their forces by insinuating that Ron Paul could possibly be a Zionist stooge. Shame on both of you.

If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Nothing you have offered is any kind of proof to back up your insinuating "question." Is that the best you can do?

You have seriously lowered yourselves and your veracity in my eyes. Henceforth, I will cease to consider your posts as anything other than unprincipled verbiage.

Apparently you did'nt read my post on RON PAUL, I provided a BILL that he proposed to GEORGE BUSH, that called for the assasination or capture of BIN LADEN (A known CIA ASSET) and U.S. government creation (along with Al-Queda) by private militia, NOW TELL ME BARBARA, AGAIN I ASK, WHAT WOULD A SENIOR U.S. CONGRESSPERSON WITH VAST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT INNER-GOVERNMENT WORKINGS BE PROPOSING SUCH A RIDICULOUS BILL?

YOU CAN BRING AND SHOW ME ALL HIS GREAT CONSERVATIVE/LIBERTARIAN RECORD, THE FACT REMAINS OPEN ON HIS REAL INTENTIONS, I BET YOU POLITICAL HACKS DON'T EVEN REALIZE HE'S A FREE-TRADER DID YOU?
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Old 08-04-2007, 12:02 PM
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My apoligies to the Ron Paul supporters out there, I'm simply making a point of understanding the current political situation here,I believe not even Ron Paul could fix the enormous problems we face, even if GOD willing they let him win, can't you realize that it's his responsibility to fill thousands of government positions, I sincerly hope you can all forgive me for my viewpoints on Ron Paul, I just am a believer in GOD of the Christian faith, not any humans, peace be with all.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:18 PM
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There was once a "God-fearing" Christian man who was caught in a flood. He managed to make it to the roof of his house where he sat and prayed for God to save him.

Shortly, a motorboat came by and the man at the helm said, "Jump in, I'll take you to safety." "No, thank you," came the reply, "I'm waiting for God to save me."

A little later a helicopter hovered over his house and a rope ladder was thrown down so he could climb up. The man waved them off, yelling "I'm waiting for God to save me."

The waters continued to rise, his house was swept away and he drowned.

On reaching the "pearly gates," the man questioned Saint Peter saying, "I've been a Christian all my life and believed there was nothing that God could not do, so why did he not save me when the flood came?"

Saint Peter replied, "What's your problem, he sent you a motor boat and a helicopter."

If we wind up with a cross-dressing mobster like Guliani, a lobbyist phony like Thompson or a Hillary, don't blame God, he sent you Ron Paul.

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Real, honest free trade, a concept whose time has come.

As far as filling all those thousands of positions, haven't you heard? Ron Paul would work to abolish all those un-Constitutional departments and agencies, forcing tens of thousands of bureaucrats into the unemployment lines where they would have to find REAL jobs and actually WORK for a change.

Imagine, if you can, being free of the IRS, BATF, Federal Reserve, Dept. of Education, Homeland Security - the list goes on and on.

Unless we are a nation seriously suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, there is only one logical choice in 2008, RON PAUL.

Get informed and join the REVOLUTION.
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Old 08-04-2007, 04:17 PM
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If we wind up with a cross-dressing mobster like Guliani, a lobbyist phony like Thompson or a Hillary, don't blame God, he sent you Ron Paul.

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Real, honest free trade, a concept whose time has come.

As far as filling all those thousands of positions, haven't you heard? Ron Paul would work to abolish all those un-Constitutional departments and agencies, forcing tens of thousands of bureaucrats into the unemployment lines where they would have to find REAL jobs and actually WORK for a change.

Imagine, if you can, being free of the IRS, BATF, Federal Reserve, Dept. of Education, Homeland Security - the list goes on and on.

Unless we are a nation seriously suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, there is only one logical choice in 2008, RON PAUL.

Get informed and join the REVOLUTION.
Great post Barbara, Maybe, just Maybe, God has sent us Ron Paul, there is absolutely no excuse for people not to vote for him, unless your a braindead Democrat or Republican, (I wonder why R.Paul does'nt drop the GOP altogether and register independent?) I'll certainly tell everyone I know to vote R. Paul. :-) But I reserve my criticism on his WAR ON TERROR BILL... by the way, which you have not answered my question on the first post here, maybe I'm going to e-mail him directly R. Paul that is .
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Old 08-04-2007, 07:07 PM
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Let's treat with the "Third Party" issue first. I learned from Dr. Paul's 1988 campaign when he ran on the Libertarian ticket that (1) TO EVEN GET ON THE BALLOT, thousands of signatures had to be garnered in EACH state and (2) A fee of so much per name had to be paid to bureaucrats in each state to verify each signature.

If I remember correctly, this came to between 50-100 thousand dollars per state. Multiply that times 50 and you begin to see how much money a candidate or party must have going in to even get a Third Party candidate's name on the ballot.

Dr. Paul is a Republican, a limited government, non-interventionist, Constitutionally TRUE Republican. Why should he even consider running on a Third Party ticket?

From this point on, you are going to get MY opinion; I have not asked anyone the reasoning behind the Bill calling for a Letter of Marque and Reprisal sponsored by Ron Paul. You or anyone else can freely do so and will, no doubt, get an answer - though it may take some time since everyone working in the campaign's pulling double duty to make the contributions go as far as possible.

Again, in reference to your first post, it is always best to ensure that the terms used are clearly understood. Towards that end, I quote from Black's Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition:

LETTER OF MARQUE AND REPRISAL: An authorization formerly granted in time of war by a government to the owner of a private vessel to capture enemy vessels and goods on the high seas. Art. 1, Sec. 8 of the U.S. Constitution.

After clicking on the link you provided and reading the information there, my first thought was that Ron is trying to short-circuit a war with Pakistan. The sabers are rattling for the U.S. to go into this nuclear-armed country, ostensibly to route out Osama ben Laden and his AlQuida cohorts.

Nothing happens in a vacuum; just about the whole world, with the exception of Americans, believes Ben Laden dead and buried but the neocons refuse to turn loose of their Number 1 bad guy so they are keeping the lie (and Osama) alive.

Since the military hasn't done such a great job of locating Ben Laden, why NOT authorize "bounty hunters" to go after him? That is pretty much what we are talking about here. They would register and put up a security deposit and be on their own with no US tax dollars involved.

This is what could have been done with Sadam IF they could have proven their 911 charges against him, BUT THEY COULDN'T, it was all lies, so Iraq was illegally/unlawfully invaded.

In my opinion, (I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH) Ron was saying, in effect, let's get more people with better chances of finding him on the job rather than bumbling our way into another theater of war.

If the guy is dead, what is the harm? If he is alive, bring him in and try him for his accused crimes, but stop stamping all over the Middle East killing hundreds of thousands of civilians while supposedly looking for one man. It's insanity.

One thing I do know for sure, Ron Paul would never take a frivolous or un-Constitutional action. As the saying goes, "You can take that to the bank."

Why not send your question in to Ron Paul so he can answer it, perhaps in the next debate?
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Old 08-04-2007, 08:06 PM
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I think Dr. Makow should weigh in with his opinion of Ron Paul or an article on his website, at least.
Apparently you need someone do your thinking for yourself.... :-?
Apparently, you selectively did not read my comment where I stated my thought on the subject.

You said Ron Paul walks both sides of the fence, can you elaborate on that? Also, I doubt if Makow would endorse Ron Paul, but, yes I would also like to know his views on R. Paul. personally I'm not confortable with his libertarianisn.... :-?
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