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Old 12-09-2007, 05:36 PM
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Rock Music and Occultism
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One can notice through the phrases in rock music that it has common elements with religion. This music for example, recognizes a higher force that rules the world. However it becomes quickly obvious that it is not God that is praised as the Highest Benevolent Being and not even the blind "fate" of the pagan poets, but someone dark and cruel. On the periphery of the fundamental channel of rock music, there is a group that has extreme anti-Christian leanings. The cacophony of some "heavy metal" groups are permeated with occult and satanist motives. Those who overindulge in this type of chilling music are deservedly drawn down into infernal regions.
Here are some examples of ritualistic practices of black mass. During a concert staged by "Gwart," one of the participants (on stage) severed the head of a human dummy and then proceeded to sprinkle blood on the audience. Then the members of the group smeared themselves with blood, taken from the dummy and drank it! They also brought in animals on to the stage and tore their intestines out.
Even in 1966, John Lennon boasted that Christianity would pass away and that the Beatles would become more popular than Christ. He portrayed Christ under the guise of a character he named "Jesus l. Pifco, a garlic eating, stinking, little yellow greasy fascist bastard Catholic Spaniard" (John Lennon, A Spaniard in the Works, New York, Simon & Schuster, 1965 p. 14). As we all know, he died tragically in 1980. David Bowie, one of the biggest rock stars in 1976, declared "Rock has always been devil's music."
According to Spin (Jan. 1991, p. 29) Danzig "embodies both rock's past glories and the promise of its future." Yet in songs like "Am I Demon," "Mother," and others, he glorifies occult ritual and sacrifice, violence and spiritual anarchy. In one blasphemous video a woman at the foot of the cross looks up and sees not Jesus but a graphic portrayal of the devil, arms outstretched, hanging on the cross. The immediate impression this confusing image gives is either that Jesus was really the devil or that what the cross symbolizes is satanic.
It is known that from its very beginning, rock music was rebellious in content, defing parental and societal authorities. Today some of the newer rock groups are openly calling for the rejection of traditional Christian principles. In one of the earlier interviews conducted by the Rolling Stones magazine with David Crosby, from the group "Crosby Stills and Nash," he commented, "I figured the only thing to do was to swipe their kids... By saying that, I'm not talking about kidnapping. I'm just talking about changing their value system, which removes them from their parents' world very effectively" (Rolling Stone, vol. 1 p. 410). In the journal "Jesserson Starship," Paul Kanter confesses: "Our music is intended to broaden the generation gap, to alienate children from their parents ." (In Tinglehoff Documentation of Expose, p. 4).
Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones has remarked, "There is no such thing as a secure, family-oriented rock and roll song" (same journal p. 5). Jon of Bon Jovi observed, "I wanted to rebel against anything and everything, and it happened that I was able to do it by playing rock and roll in a band" (Metal Edge, Aug. 1987, p. 12). John Cougar reveals, "I swear or cuss because I know that it's not socially acceptable. I hate things that are 'this is the way you are supposed to behave.' That is why I hate schools, governments, and churches" (In Tinglehoff Documentation of Expose, p. 6).
Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue comments: "We never set out to be anybody's role model. But since we have become that, we are trying to give our fans something to believe in. On the second album, we told them to "Shout at the Devil." A lot of people... think that song is about Satan. That's not true. It's about standing up to authority, whether it is your parents, your teacher or your boss. That is pretty good advice, I think. But I'm sure that any parent who hears it is going to think it is treason" (Rock Beat, 1989 p. 41).
Rock music almost unanimously rejects Christian standards and beliefs. For example, reading through a text like Rock and Roll Babylon is as depressing as reading Hollywood Babylon; the anti-Christian nature of these subcultures are laid bare in graphic terms. From The Doors' Jim Morrison's mocking, screaming hatred of Christian prayer ("Petition the Lord with Prayer") to Skid Row's "Quicksand Jesus" ("Are we saved by the words of bastard saints?") to the more explicit blasphemies, rock culture has often identified its aversion to Christian faith. Ozzy Osbourne acknowledges "I'm not a born again Christian but a born again Hitler (Cream Metal, March 1986 p. 12).
Here are more quotations from "Heavy Metal." "The Oath" by the band King Diamond: "I deny Jesus Christ, the deceiver, and I adjure the Christian faith, holding in contempt all of its works." "Possessed" by the band Venom: "I am possessed by all that is evil. The death of your God I demand. I ... sit at Lord Satan's right hand," and "I drink the vomit of the priest, make love to the dying whore, Satan is my master incarnate, hail, praise to my unholy host."
Billy Idol attempts "to show what a human rip-off religion is." Leon Russell thinks that "organized Christianity has done more harm than any other single force I can think of in the world" and suggests that the religion of rock and roll replace it. In an interview in Spin, Sinead O'Connor emphasized, "It's a huge abuse to teach children that God is not within themselves. That God is pollution. That God is bigger than them. That God is outside them. That is a lie. That's what causes the emptiness of children" (Spin, Nov 1991, p. 51). In "Hymn 43" the band Jethro Tull conveyed this message, "We are our own saviors, and if Jesus saves, then He better save Himself" (Cream Metal, Mar. 1986, p. 12). There is no limit as to the amount of blasphemous citations one can obtain from these songs.
In rock and roll as well as "heavy metal" music, there is a strong occult influence. Cyril Scott was an eminent composer during his lifetime. He was a student of the occult religion known as Theosophy and also interested in the potential of using music for the occult. Two of his books, The Influence of Music on History and Morals and Music: Its Secret Influence Throughout the Ages, were received through inspiration of the spirit world by one of the Theosophic spirit guides (that also Madame Blavatsky, founder of the theosophical movement in pre revolutionary Russia). In the latter book, Scott tells us that, from his talks with this spirit, it: "takes a special interest in the evolution of Western music .... Indeed, he considers it advisable that students of occultism of all schools should more fully appreciate the great importance of music as a force in spiritual [occult] evolution, and to this end he has revealed much that has hither to not been revealed, and that cannot fail to prove of paramount interest to all music-lovers."
Scott himself is convinced that "the great Initiates [in the spirit world] have vast and imposing plans for the musical future" (p. 199). What is this plan? It is to use music as an occult medium through which to develop altered states of consciousness, psychic abilities, and contact with the spirit world. Scott explains: "Music in the future is to be used to bring people into yet closer touch with the Devas [spirits]; they will be enabled to partake of the benefic [beneficial] influence of these beings while attending concerts at which by the appropriate type of sound they have been invoked .... The scientifically calculated music in question, however, will achieve the two-fold object of invoking the Devas and at the same time stimulating in the listeners those [psychic] faculties by means of which they will become aware of them and responsive to their [the spirits'] influence" (pp. 200-201).
Scott concludes his book by citing the words of his spirit guide: "Today, as we enter this new Age, we seek, primarily through the medium of inspired music, to defuse the spirit of [occultic] unification and brotherhood, and thus quicken the (spiritual) vibration of this planet" (p. 204). This genre of "inspired music" is now found in local record stores. Some "New Age" music is spiritistically inspired for specific occult goals. The "composers" of the New Age music claim it can foster meditation, help develop psychic power, alter consciousness, induce "astral" travel, and transform personality. Other contemporary rock musicians parallel these ideas.
Many of the big-time rock stars have been heavily involved not only in the occult but also in overt Satanism. Trying to describe his own "inspiration" process, [John] Lennon said: "It's like being possessed: like a psychic or a medium...." Of the Beatles, Yoko Ono has said, "They were like mediums. They weren't conscious of all they were saying, but it was coming through them..." Marc Storace, a vocalist with the heavy-metal band Krokus, told Circus magazine: "You can't describe it except to say it's like a mysterious energy that comes from the metaphysical plane and into my body. It's almost like being a medium..." "Little Richard" had similar experiences and identified Satan as the source of his inspiration: "I was directed and commanded by another power The power of darkness ... that a lot of people don't believe exists. The power of the devil. Satan." Jim Morrison (of The Doors) called the spirits that at times possessed him "the Lords," and wrote a book of poetry about them. Folk rock artist Joni Mitchell's creativity came from her spirit guide 'Aft." So dependent was she upon 'Aft" that nothing could detain her when he "called."
The prevalence of such "spirits" among top rock stars seems to go beyond the realm of coincidence. Superstar Jimi Hendrix, called "rock's greatest guitarist" ... "believed he was possessed by some spirit," according to Alan Douglas. Hendrix's former girlfriend, Fayne Pridgon, has said: "He used to always talk about some devil or something was in him, you know, and he didn't have any control over it, he didn't know what made him act the way he acted and what made him say the things he said, and songs ... just came out of him." (Dave Hunt, America: The Sorcerers New Apprentice, Eugene, OR: Harvest House, 1988, pp. 239-40).
Many other rock stars practice occultism, and their compositions describe their condition in terms of being possessed or in a trance. (Larson, "Larson's Book of Rock," pp. 125-35, Hunt, America: The Sorcerers New Apprentice, pp. 245-246). It is now well known that a large number of musicians are discovering an interest in occultism, sorcery and sometimes even satanism. Some names of "black metal" groups have an association with the occult. For example, "Coven," "Dark Angel," "Demon," "Infernal Majesty," "Possessed," "Satan," "Cloven Hoof" and others. (Details for Men, July 1991, pp. 100-101).
Ozzy Osbourne noted, "I never seem to know exactly what I'm gonna do next. I just like to do what the spirits make me do. That way, I always have someone or something to blame" (Faces, Nov. 1983 p. 24). Osbourne, a former lead singer of "Black Sabbath" triumphantly summoned satan at one of his concerts in Canada. "Sometimes I feel like a medium for some outside force... " (Tinglehoff, Documentation of Expose, p. 21). Black Sabbath has also made altar calls to Lucifer at some of their concerts. In "Master of Reality" they sing that he is "lord of this world" and "your confessor now."
According to a Rolling Stone interview, Peter Criss, the first and most famous drummer of the rock band KISS stated, "I believe in the devil as much as God. You can use either one to get things done" (Rolling Stone, Jan 12, 1978).
Another guitarist when asked "From where do you draw the strength for such delivery?" He said,"Most probably from below, up there there is no Rock-and-Roll." Members of the group Iron Maiden openly admit that they are dabbling in the occult, including witchcraft (Cream, Sept. 1982). One Iron Maiden concert in Portland, Oregon, opened with the words "Welcome to Satan's sanctuary." Glenn Tipton of the group Judas Priest confessed that when he goes on stage, he goes crazy: "It's like someone else takes over my body" (Hit Parade, Fall 1984).
In describing what a Van Halen concert is like, David Lee Roth commented, "I'm gonna abandon my spirit to them [emotions], which is actually what I attempt to do. You work yourself up into that state and you fall in supplication of the demon gods" (Rock, April 1984).
Guitarist Mick Mars of Motley Crue described his band as "demonic, that's what we are" (Heavy Metal Times, May 1983). Nikki Sixx referring to their "Shout at the Devil" stage show commented, "We have skulls, pentagrams, and all kinds of satanic symbols on stage .... I've always flirted with the devil" (Circus, Jan. 31, 1984).
Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac has several times dedicated their concerts to the witches of the world. An album of the rock group Venom entitled, "Welcome to Hell" contains the following words on the back cover: "We are possessed by all that is evil. The death of your God we demand: we spit at the virgin you worship, and sit at the Lord Satan's left hand." The "Rune" album of Led Zeppelin displays on the cover the famous black occultist Aleister Crowley. Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page, a self-confessed Satanist, bought Crowley's old mansion. John Bonham, a drummer for the band, died in the house in 1980; Robert Plant allegedly split the group up after his death and blamed Page's obsession with the occult for his death.
Lovers of "heavy metal" music often wear amulets with the above-mentioned symbols. The name of ZOSO means a 3 headed dog, guardian of the doors of hell, NATAS is the name of satan spelt backwards; the image IL CORNUTO - with the forefinger and little finger extended forward, is a symbol of Satan.

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Old 12-09-2007, 08:41 PM
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Very interesting.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:56 PM
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More often than not, they drape themselves in religious jewelry.

Check out some pictures of Springsteen's neck.

I think GOD cringes upon that sight.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewt...=42&start=2025
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Old 12-09-2007, 10:22 PM
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Notice here this "Peter" Shadow character attempts to gain 'points' with DA, Anyone who believes DA's story is a complete imbecile, she made that story up in order to get people to sympathise for her, a classic trick, don't fall for such stupidity.


Think about it, (I know it's not worth it.) but, DA has been supposedly holding information on Bruce Sprinsteen for years about his Pedophilia, and yet the man is free as a bird while this stupid loon DA babbles all over about her "incarceration in Project Monarch" what a fucken load of crap. And on this website of all places, What A Fucken Joke!
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:27 AM
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Notice here this "Peter" Shadow character attempts to gain 'points' with DA, Anyone who believes DA's story is a complete imbecile, she made that story up in order to get people to sympathise for her, a classic trick, don't fall for such stupidity.

Why are you so threatened by me and why are you trying to protect Springsteen?

Think about it, (I know it's not worth it.) but, DA has been supposedly holding information on Bruce Sprinsteen for years about his Pedophilia, and yet the man is free as a bird while this stupid loon DA babbles all over about her "incarceration in Project Monarch" what a fucken load of crap. And on this website of all places, What A Fucken Joke!

I suppose you didn't read about the torture I endured by the "sadistic pigs" so that Springsteen could remain, as you say, free as a bird. Believe me, the man isn't free. He has to live with himself on a daily basis.

Funny, you acknowledge in your second paragraph that Springseen is a pedophile. If you think writing about mind control/Project Monarch/MKULTRA and Bruce Springsteen's pedophilia and abuse of me when I was a "little girl" on this website, of all places, is inconsequential, why do you feel threatened by it?
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:31 PM
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If what I speak about Bruce Springsteen and the music industry is not the truth, RAT, as far as you're concerned, why do you insist on trying to convince other people of the same?

Why so CONCERNED as to whether or not people who read this site believe what I write about the PIG??

Why does it matter to you?

You know, you can have your opinion, but I'm just wondering why it's so IMPORTANT for you to attack and attempt to defame my character on this issue to whomever you are addressing in your posts.

The only reason for that would be because you know what I speak is the TRUTH!

Why on earth do you care if someone else believes what I speak about Springsteen?

Some vested interest?

Man crush on him?

Or, a part of his posse'?

Maybe, it's all three!
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Old 12-10-2007, 04:53 PM
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More often than not, they drape themselves in religious jewelry.

Check out some pictures of Springsteen's neck.

I think GOD cringes upon that sight.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewt...=42&start=2025
I can not see clearly what he has around his neck.

This article shows the real intend of rock music: putting a spell on people and introduce them to satanism. As a long time rock music fan I know it works. I did not go far in this, but many other people do. They even think making satanic handsigns is cool. The gothic fans go much further. When you see them all dressed in black and with their make-up it becomes pretty clear that they embrace satanism. I did not take this issue very serious untill recently. Especially the speeches of John Todd made me change my mind. Now I stopped listing to rock music completely. The sublimal programming about satanism is probably already part of my subconscious, however. It will take some time to get rid of this.
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:23 PM
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Peter,

You mentioned in one of the threads here that you escaped the "satanic cult."

Do you feel comfortable giving US any information as to your incarceration and how you were able to break free?
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:06 PM
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We are all member of a satanic cult Blue Angel. Our whole society is a satanic cult. Rock music is only one of the many ways they get us into this. As long as this society excist we will be member of this cult. However we want it or not, we are using and seeing satanic symbols all day. Just look at your internet address www or 666 in Hebrew. Escaping this satanic cult which is our society is extremely difficult and I did not succeed to escape. My mind is relatively free however. How do I try to get rid of my programming? Study and limit their influence on me. I do not watch TV, I do not listen to popmusic, I am not a member of any church, I do not read their books about withcraft such as Harry Potter. However my dependence on money prevents my final escape from the satanic cult called civilization.

I have not gone through the same nightmare as you. My nightmare was different. There is many ways for them to torture us or drive us into submission. I am not sure that what I experienced was "natural". Nothing in this world is "natural", anymore. Its all controlled by the illuminist. I do not feel comfortable to talk about my experiences, but I can assure you it was different from yours. Anyway, we both have been in hell and came out of it while many others died. The reason is our faith. Faith is the only difference between life and dead.
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:16 PM
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We are all member of a satanic cult Blue Angel. Our whole society is a satanic cult. Rock music is only one of the many ways they get us into this. As long as this society excist we will be member of this cult. However we want it or not, we are using and seeing satanic symbols all day. Just look at your internet address www or 666 in Hebrew. Escaping this satanic cult which is our society is extremely difficult and I did not succeed to escape. My mind is relatively free however. How do I try to get rid of my programming? Study and limit their influence on me. I do not watch TV, I do not listen to popmusic, I am not a member of any church, I do not read their books about withcraft such as Harry Potter. However my dependence on money prevents my final escape from the satanic cult called civilization.

I have not gone through the same nightmare as you. My nightmare was different. There is many ways for them to torture us or drive us into submission. I am not sure that what I experienced was "natural". Nothing in this world is "natural", anymore. Its all controlled by the illuminist. I do not feel comfortable to talk about my experiences, but I can assure you it was different from yours. Anyway, we both have been in hell and came out of it while many others died. The reason is our faith. Faith is the only difference between life and dead.
I escaped from a satanic cult as a child and when I was enslaved, I didn't consider myself a member then and I certainly don't consider myself a member now.

Sure, they can infect society with their evil, but you must make the choice to disengage and not allow it to have any power over you.

Your mind is your own.

You can choose not to allow their symbolism to have any direct influence in your life.

Your mind is your own.

You have to be able to see "outside" of their evil world and refuse to allow them to torture or drive you into submission.

You can be aware of their "operations," but you have to be able to see BEAUTY in place of their EVIL.

Trust me, EVIL people control the world, but not everyone is EVIL.
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