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Old 09-26-2009, 03:35 PM
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Wow, pages 15 and 16 were a waste of space.

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Old 09-26-2009, 06:01 PM
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Wow, pages 15 and 16 were a waste of space.
Indeed.

What I don't seem to understand is, how this group can make you better men, aren't we taught right and wrong in school? Can't we continue our religious way individually? Why the secrets? If it's all for the better of man, what's stopping everyone else knowing what you do? Why must we join the group to improve ourselves too?

I'm not at all knowing of Freemasonry, though I've heard and watched videos based on conspiracys surrounding the group, though my opinion maybe slightly biased I'm still open to your responses, you did say I'm sure that you'd read up on the background of the Freemasons and weighed up your options before joining.. If you'd heard so much why would you join?

I only know the basics and I sure as hell wouldn't join, though I do believe government is currupt anyway and that the Freemasons have a roll in the changing of the world, for the worst.

I think you should explain fully as to what the Freemasons are all about, as much as you can because as you can clearly see there is alot of fuss about it.

Though I will probably not fully agree with what you're saying it will be interesting to read.

--- Sorry for my non-researched post, I'm just fascinated. ---
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Old 11-14-2009, 12:53 PM
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I have become convinced that the Masons are extremely evil. The true anti-Christ religion.
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Old 11-14-2009, 08:06 PM
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The biggest problem with masonry is why a normal decent man would feel the need to be part of such a cult... What drives a man to need the constant back slapping, the never ending rhetoric concerning how great and important you are and the ego building letting in on so called secrets! "WHY!!?"
For those who still aren't convinced that freemasonry is evil please consider this. The first oath you make is the blood oath where you swear to butcher anyone who dares disclose masonic secrets..! You then procede to the third degree after which you can take a sideays step and become a 33rd degree mason in the Scottich or York cult. Then, as the brain washing takes hold you take your 19th degree and told that the god that you think you've been worshipping is in fact Lucifer, the lightbearer... "LUCIFER!"
Only idiots and the morally weak seek refuge in this cult. We should pity them...
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Old 11-14-2009, 08:18 PM
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Ah right, so we're back to repeating my words are we..?
Why don't you invest in a life you dickhead?
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Old 11-14-2009, 09:10 PM
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I have become convinced that the Masons are extremely evil. The true anti-Christ religion.
From what? I wonder what the countless Christians would have to say about this.

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The biggest problem with masonry is why a normal decent man would feel the need to be part of such a cult... What drives a man to need the constant back slapping, the never ending rhetoric concerning how great and important you are and the ego building letting in on so called secrets! "WHY!!?"
And how do you know of this "back slapping" and other "ego boosting activities"? How many Lodge meetings do you attend?

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The first oath you make is the blood oath where you swear to butcher anyone who dares disclose masonic secrets!
By definition a blood oath requires the spilling of blood and that is not done. Nor is any harm done to anyone who breaks their oaths, they are just expelled. Nor do you swear to butcher anyone if they breaks their oath.

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You then procede to the third degree after which you can take a sideays step and become a 33rd degree mason in the Scottich or York cult.
Well you procede only after passing through the 2nd degree. And also the 33rd only pertains to the Scottish Rite, the York Rite has only a handful of degrees, but then you are conferred orders of knighthood. And the 33rd isn't just handed out to anyone, you must put some time into it.

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Then, as the brain washing takes hold you take your 19th degree and told that the god that you think you've been worshipping is in fact Lucifer, the lightbearer... "LUCIFER!"
Only idiots and the morally weak seek refuge in this cult. We should pity them...
And for the billionth time someone has misquoted Albert Pike. Lucifer is referring to light, ie knowledge, enlightenment. And in fact, the Bible is not referring to Satan when they speak of Lucifer, but in fact they are speaking of a Babylonian king, Helal, son of Shahar (translated from Hebrew to mean: Day Star, Son of the Dawn). In the original Hebrew Lucifer is not used as it is a Latin name. The confusion of all this comes from mistranslation/interpretation. King Jame's scholars did not translate from the orginal Hebrew into modern English but used previously translated versions from the 4th century (St. Jerome). Jerome had mistranslated the Hebraic metaphor, "Day star, son of the Dawn," as "Lucifer," and over the centuries a metamorphosis took place. Lucifer the morning star became a disobedient angel, cast out of heaven to rule eternally in hell.
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Old 11-14-2009, 09:50 PM
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I couldn't care less about what the countless Christians have to say about anything just the same as I couldn't care less about what the countless Freemasons have to say about anything.
That was directed to stompk not you.
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Old 11-14-2009, 09:55 PM
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I couldn't care less about what the countless Christians have to say about anything just the same as I couldn't care less about what the countless Freemasons have to say about anything.
Then what is the point of debate if you are just here to rant?
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:34 PM
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I was posting about the misinterpretations that have led to so many falsehoods against Freemasonry.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:54 PM
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I believe that the Mason is a 100% religion. And just like you cannot have 2 network provider on one phone, you cannot have 2 religions at once.

I believe Masons are idol worshippers, and therefore - they "cease" to be christians.

So the Masons end up being an dishonest religion, because they are not honest about their belonging and their beliefs.
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