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Default The Official Ron Paul President 2008 Campaign Trail- Thread


Ron Paul Speaking In Las Vegas - 7-7-7 :-o :-o :-o

Ron Paul Speaking In Las Vegas
7-7-2007

This is one of the best speeches I have seen "Ron Paul" deliver outside of Congress to an audience during his Presidential Campain. He was definitely on the "Roll" here.

Ron Paul Speaking In Las Vegas - 7-7-7 - yT Video (Must Watch !!!...)
http://www.reclaim.org/ron-paul-speaking-in-las-vegas

Seven CIA Veterans Challenge 911 Commission Report
Official Account of 9/11 a “Joke” and a “Cover-up”
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_070922_seven_cia_veterans_c.htm

PNAC Rebuilding America's Senses DL Lecture - gG Video (Must Watch !!!...)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8545414779301935419&q=pnac&total=1 226&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

Alex Jones - End Game
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/130807_b_alamo.htm

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P01 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv8kD-cH43Y

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P02 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUBQXQ9hWrs

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P03 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CHCYnWd7sg

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P04 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtdT_9Kf_2E

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P05 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imbqBnkBhhU

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P06 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr2GJ9rtrac

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P07 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm9YxWnOOHc

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P08 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OPCBIg-_Jc

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P09 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESN_JgAe-9Q

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P10 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSzRMm1hUlA

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P11 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHiO4MoSu8A

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P12 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU_dsP3NlG0

Alex Jones Broadcast 07-31-07 - P13 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad8CGe7hpKA

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul - President 2008 ??? - :-o :-o :-o

Ron Paul - President 2008

Ron Paul 2008 - Straw Poll Results
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results

Ron Paul Landslides NJ Straw Poll w 72%
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/015724.html

Ron Paul's Presidential Message Can No Longer Be Ignored
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/2007/09/27/column__ron_paul_for_president_campaign_attracts_f ollowing

Ron Paul Beats All Candidates Head-to-Head In Straw Polls
http://www.ronpaulfan.com/2007/09/24/ron-paul-now-beats-all-candidates-head-to-head-in-straw-polls

Ron Paul Utah Turnout Wows Candidate
http://www.sltrib.com/justice/ci_6908779?source=email

Ron Paul Wins Alabama Republican Straw Poll w 81% - P1 - yT Video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oEscUJFcp9Y

Ron Paul Wins Alabama Republican Straw Poll w 81% - P2 - yT Video
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj17sHDWamw&mode=related&search=

Big Bad Ron Paul - Music - yT Video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZHKN5W5rBSM

Ron Paul Speech Aug-31- yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5kv31MYKus&mode=related&search

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008 - :-o :-o :-o


Ron Paul – Presidential Candidate 2007

God, Country, Freedom – Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008
If it wasn’t because “we”, the fearless free thinkers of America, care about our Freedoms & our way of life, we wouldn’t be seeking Ron Paul.


"If it wasn’t because our Founding Fathers, we wouldn’t have Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because of the “Constitution of the U.S.A.”, we wouldn’t have Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because our Congress have failed us time & time again, we would have not noticed Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because of unscrupulous Power, & the corruption that takes you there, we would have not noticed Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because of the Internet alone, we would have not noticed Ron Paul.

If we would have left it to the Media alone, we would have never noticed Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because our civil rights have been most recently infringed upon, stepped on, & literally trashed & disregarded, we would have not been screaming for Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because America the beautiful does not look so beautiful anymore (at least from where we are looking) we wouldn’t be seeking Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because we have just recently lost the protections of both the “Posse Comitatus Act”, & “Habeas Corpus” alone, we wouldn’t be seeking Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because America is being literally brought down by a secretly organized & pre-planned agenda, “controlled demolition” style, we wouldn’t be seeking Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because our “privatized” fiat “currency” (the U.S. dollar) is running aground, at the speed of gravity, along with all of our hard earned personal wealth & savings, we wouldn’t be seeking Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because of our anxiety of loosing our one last hope, our last streak of Freedom, we wouldn’t be seeking Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because “we are” the free & fearless thinkers of America, & not the cowardly followers of senseless carelessness, we wouldn’t have Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because we can truly & freely talk about “love, caring, country, God, Freedom, & future”, we wouldn’t have Ron Paul.

If it wasn’t because Ron Paul can talk about anything, with anyone, anywhere, we wouldn’t know Ron Paul.

It is because “we” do give a damn about our Constitution & our Civil Liberties, our God given Freedoms, & because “we” do care about “our” America & its Freedoms, that we are going to stand-up & “together” vote & elect Ron Paul as our U.S. President of 2008.

May God continue to look over our shoulders & bless America."
- jcm 2007.


Ron Paul - Candiadate Ron Paul – Forbes Magazine
http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2007/10/01/election-candidates-politics-oped-cz_rp_1002paul.html

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008 - :-o :-o :-o

Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008

Presidential Primaries & Caucuses - ("pdf" File)
http://archive.stateline.org/flash-data/Primary/2008_presidential_primaries.pdf

2008 Presidential Primaries - Yahoo Search
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu90lywNHuW8BcKBXNyoA?fr2=sg-gac&sado=1&p=2008%20presidential%20primaries&y=Sea rch&fr=&vm=p

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008 - :-o :-o :-o


Ron Paul – Presidential Candidate 2008

God, Country, Freedom – Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008
The fearless Free Thinkers of America, & those who care about our Freedoms & our way of life, will vote for Ron Paul for President 2008.

Ron Paul Speaking In Las Vegas July 7, 2007

Ron Paul - Speaking In Las Vegas- 7-7-7 - yT Video
http://www.reclaim.org/ron-paul-speaking-in-las-vegas

Ron Paul - Freedom Is Popular - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsLcQiHKhic

Ron Paul - Restoring Honor To The White House - Ad - Video
http://www.spotrunner.com/Ads/Host/Play.aspx?cde=AQGE

Ron Paul - Freedom Brings Us Together - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vnfkDiVXjc

Ron Paul - ALC PAC Ad - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLBI35aswAM

Ron Paul - Hope For America - Ad - Video
http://www.spotrunner.com/Ads/Host/Play.aspx?cde=A1PK

Ron Paul - Commercial Ads - Videos
http://www.operationnh.com/commercials.html

Ron Paul - YouTube Archives - yT Videos
http://www.youtube.com/RonPaul2008DotCom

Ron Paul - The Voice Of Freedom - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YdZ29vtl18&NR=1

Ron Paul - GOP Presidential Candidates Just Don't Get - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh-PxT12rpE

PNAC Rebuilding America's Senses DL Lecture - gG Video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8545414779301935419&q=pnac&total=1 226&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul's Celebration Of Life & Liberty - 8-) 8-) 8-)

Ron Paul's Celebration Of Life & Liberty
Ron Paul's 8 Part Series... Speaking Engagement - June 30, 2007

Ron Paul - Celebration Of Life & Liberty - P1 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHOGAIhprSs

Ron Paul - Celebration Of Life & Liberty - P2 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2xs9cpmFBo

Ron Paul - Celebration Of Life & Liberty - P3 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhGxQygHJpw

Ron Paul - Celebration Of Life & Liberty - P4 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjjKfO5BWnw

Ron Paul - Celebration Of Life & Liberty - P5 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjvLbmfXiqM

Ron Paul - Celebration Of Life & Liberty - P6 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwgsWP0AEoY

Ron Paul - Celebration Of Life & Liberty - P7 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRSO70xn1YA

Ron Paul - Celebration Of Life & Liberty - P8 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VegPF440Tgc

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

God, Country, Freedom – Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)


Honorable Congressman Ron Paul - Presidential Candidate 2008

God, Country, Freedom – Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008
The fearless Free Thinkers of America, & those who care about our Freedoms & our way of life, will vote for Ron Paul for President 2008.

Ron Paul - Dr Know - State Of The Union - yT Video
Highlights of the "Celebration Of Life & Liberty" Series
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fohAJ20B4tU

Ron Paul - A New Hope - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA

Ron Paul - Ann Arbor Rally - fP Video Clip
http://www.eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=165

Ron Paul - Ann Arbor Rally - fP Video
http://www.eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=171

Ron Paul - On Health Care - fP Video
http://www.eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=99

Ron Paul - Surprised CNN - Video
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2007/10/14/acosta.ron.paul.cnn

Ron Paul - Revolution Interstate Billboards - yT Video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=z7rK8FP3Pcg

Ron Paul Interview w PBS
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec07/paul_10-12.html

Ron Paul 2008 - Get Involved - Downloads
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/get-involved/downloads

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

God, Country, Freedom – Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)


Honorable Congressman Ron Paul - Presidential Candidate 2008

God, Country, Freedom – Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008
The fearless Free Thinkers of America, & those who care about our Freedoms & our way of life, will vote for Ron Paul for President 2008.

Ron Paul - Republican Debate 9-27-07 - P01 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzyopc9rUWk

Ron Paul - Republican Debate 9-27-07 - P02 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEQwomaJ3ms

Ron Paul - Republican Debate 9-27-07 - P03 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBMXhGPM5AQ

Ron Paul - Republican Debate 9-27-07 - P04 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVCcEYwJJig

Ron Paul - Republican Debate 9-27-07 - P05 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX9jGowRtt8

Ron Paul - Republican Debate 9-27-07 - P06 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIyEG1l5Db4

Ron Paul - Republican Debate 9-27-07 - P07 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPrupS-0Zow

Ron Paul - Republican Debate 9-27-07 - P08 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfGrsTU3h3U

Ron Paul - Republican Debate 9-27-07 - P09 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s68B1DDQewQ

Ron Paul - Republican Debate 9-27-07 - P10 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XrW4_6NzXI

Ron Paul - Republican Debate 9-27-07 - P11 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1JZRIbOUt4

Ron Paul - Republican Debate 9-27-07 - P12 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f21_a8y5BXw

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

<img src="http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/october2007/081007paul.jpg">
<a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/october2007/081007paul.jpg" target="_blank">Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008</a>

Ron Paul – November 5th 2007
Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008 – Be Part Of It…

<center>Ron Paul U.S. President 2008 – Be A Part Of It</center>
<center>"A desperate disease requires a dangerous remedy." – Guy Fawkes</center>
<center>This November 5th...</center>
<center>We have a new mission for a new day!</center>
<center>We now face many truths that were false and countless people have died..</center>
<center> (Strength Through Unity Unity Through Faith)</center>
<center>They said there were Weapons of Mass Destruction...</center>
<center>They said the Iraquis wanted democracy and were ready to die for it..</center>
<center>I regret to inform you they lied..</center>
<center>We currently have 70,000 Myspace supporters</center>
<center>32,000 YouTube subscriptions</center>
<center>1000 Meetup Groups across the USA</center>
<center>Our Goal</center>
<center>Have every capable American citizen who supports Ron Paul to donate $100 dollars on</center>
<center>November 5th.</center>
<center>This mass donation and complete participation of 100,000 people donating on the same day.</center>
<center>It will be the single largest day in American history for any presidential candidate.</center>
<center>The Goal is too reach 10 million dollars in on day.</center>
<center>"People should not be afraid of their government; governments should be afraid of their people"</center>
<center>FOR.. LIBERTY</center>
<center>FOR.. FREEDOM</center>
<center>NO MORE!!</center>
<center>!!Ron Paul!!!</center>
<center>!!Ron Paul!!!</center>
<center>!!Ron Paul!!!</center>
<center>!!Ron Paul!!!</center>
<center>Freedom! Forever!</center>
<center>Restore the Republic</center>
<center>RonPaul2008.com</center>
<center> (Be a part of it)</center>

November 5th For Ron Paul – yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_9fip694A

Ron Paul Campaign – Remember The 5th of November – yT Videos
http://thisnovember5th.com

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Honorable Congressman Ron Paul - U.S. President 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

<img src="http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/november2005/241105paul.jpg">
<a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/november2005/241105paul.jpg" target="_blank">Honorable Congressman Ron Paul - U.S. President 2008</a>

God, Country, Freedom – Ron Paul – U.S. President 2008
The fearless Free Thinkers of America, & those who care about our Freedoms & our way of life, will vote for Ron Paul for President 2008.

Ron Paul - Right Now - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icPHUrXEZhM

Ron Paul - From Past To Present - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg-qsOA0NPk

Ron Paul - Revolutionary Walk To Freedom - yT Video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jLnT_ojNZUM

The Ron Paul For President 2008 Revolution - Videos & Articles
http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com

Ron Paul - ABC News Nomination Poll
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/popup?id=3746547&POLL310=4000000000000000000000000 000

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul - President 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

<img src="http://www.huntingtonnews.net/images/ron_paulpic.jpg" height=500 width=398>
<a href="http://www.huntingtonnews.net/images/ron_paulpic.jpg" target="_blank">Ron Paul - President 2008</a>

Ron Paul - President 2008 - Champion of The Constitution

The Tonight Show w/ Jay Leno - Ron Paul - Tue Oct 30, 2007
Select "This Week Guest"-"Tuesday", Click on "Video", Select "Episode"-"Tuesday",
Select "Chapter"-"Chapter-5" (if you want to go straight to "Ron Paul")
http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/

Ron Paul - Congressional Discussion On The Federal Reserve - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kxTkhwR_Q

Ron Paul For President - Re-Legalize The Constitution - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pda-rT1sf2M

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)
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Ron Paul's November 5th's "Victory Day" - 8-) 8-) 8-)

<img src="http://images.forbes.com/media/2007/10/01/paul.jpg" height=375 width=341><img src="http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0710/wron_1112.jpg" height=375 width=500>
<a href="http://images.forbes.com/media/2007/10/01/paul.jpg" target="_blank">Ron Paul - U.S. President 2008</a>

Ron Paul's November 5th's "Victory Day"

On Behalf of Ron Paul - Nov 5th's Victory Day
Our "Goal" is to collect a "minimum" of 100,000 "Personal Campaign Contributions" of $100 Dollars (USD) each, and thus raise a "minimum" of $10,000,000 Million Dollars (USD) from individuals from all walks of life, and to bring Ron Paul's Campaign up to the "Next Level". Ron Paul has demonstrated to have the wits, the knowledge, the enthusiasm, the energy, the love, and Wisdom needed to bring America back. Ron Paul's platform is that of the Constitution of the U.S.A. and its original intent of true Freedom, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, which belongs to every man, woman, and child. This includes the protection of their Freedom and their Unalienable Rights. Rights, which as per our Constitution, can not be removed by any government under any circumstance. In a world were a monopoly of prosperity, an unfair distribution of wealth, more greed, the lust of power, despotism, and just plain disregard for both humanity and our planet have been established by a secret and occult elite, Ron Paul is our only "Hope" for a true "America". Let's make America beautiful again. Let's together bring Ron Paul to power.

Ron Paul - November 5th Turning Point - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjeesC9NnzU

Ron Paul - November 5th Victory Day - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbWqD8egO9w

Ron Paul - On The Hard Realities Of Our Economy - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cziN3gt-hic

Ron Paul On The Federal Reserve - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kxTkhwR_Q

Ron Paul - On The Tonight Show w Jay Leno - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1EFHgUXZaU

Neo-Cons Never Rest To Find Ways To Harm Us
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/ron_paul_neocons_dream_up_alex_jone_ron_paul_plot. htm

Ron Paul Popular Even Among GOP
http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071102/NEWS01/711020382

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Smarmy Snarkster Demeans Ron Paul
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/016580.html

Transcript:

Tucker: (3:31 m:s)
L.A. Times columnist, Joel Stein. Let's take a close look at what he calls, "The Ron Paul Revolution", in this week's Time Magazine.

Well, Joel. Thanks for coming on. I'm impressed that you dared to enter the Ron Paul world. Good for you. What is this about? Who are his fans?

Stein:
Oh man... they are... crazy!!! I... they are not just on the Internet. They show up to see h'm speak. Like I saw maybe...I don't know... Seven hundred (700) people show up for 300 hundred seats out in Iowa. It's amazing!

Tucker:
What, What, Why? Ok, let me just, just for those who haven't read. Let me read one of the opening lines of this piece, this week. Ah,... ah, that you wrote about Ron Paul.

Stein:
Give, give it, give it your all, though!

Tucker:
Ah, I, ...I will.

Stein:
Yeah!

Tucker:
(Screaming) Ron Paul goes to a college & delivers this same speech he's given for 30 years for his political career. The one spousing Austrian school of economics. Only now the audience is packed w/ hundreds of kids & Ron Paul t-shirts, & go nuts. They give standing ovations when he drones on about getting rid of the Federal Reserve & returning to (laughing) the Gold Standard.

Now what is that? Are they really there because they want to return to the Gold Standard?

Stein:
You know... I couldn't figure it out 'cause he would about like ah, "legalizing drugs", or "ending the drug war", & then he would talk about "ending the war in Iraq",... again, they would applaud, but "they went crazy" for the "fiscal" stuff.

I think it's the ah... the only thing I can get out of talking to people was that they see that there is something "corrupt going on" w/ the "military industrial complex", whether it's Black-Water or Haliburton. And he seems to be like the "radical" one to "change it".

Tucker:
So it's not, it's not just about the war. They are not just "liberals" who are "mad about the war" & he's got the most "radical" position. ...in the Republican Party. It's,... they like the idea about a "small government"? You think?

Stein:
I think they like just like that he seems like the guy from "network". Who's going to yell & tell Washington to screw itself. I think,... (surprised) he is just a "radical". ...This year.

Tucker:
How does he,... how does he seem about that? I mean, you say it's kind of bewildering for him to all of the sudden be popular, after decades of relative obscurity. Does he seem comfortable w/ it?

Stein:
(exited)Yeah! ...he seems confused, he s..., I think he believes that after 30 years,... it just took a long time for people to hear h'm. And they are finally paying attention. So, I think that he feels really vindicated.

He is also like this little nerdy guy, who is confused. I mean,... he is used to speaking to small groups of people about obscure subjects. ...So it's pretty freaky, I think.

Tucker:
Is he a good,... & I say this as someone, who I voted for last time in '88, & I like Ron Paul a lot. But I,... I never thought if he is a good speaker. Has he gotten better?

Stein:
No... He's horrible. He's like the professor who you know, you know he's smart. His book was supposedly really good. But you know, they are not going to stay up the whole class. But ah... he does it. He is like... There is something charming about h'm. He's an older,... cute little guy.

Tucker:
What?... Describe the average Ron Paul fan. Are they like the dean followers?

Stein:
No... no. They are definitely nerdier than the dean followers. I heard the dean followers, 4 years ago in New Hampshire, they are a good looking group. They are like little Kennedy kind of, you know, JFK kind of followers. These people are, ah, ...are pretty nerdy & hard core. Like I saw a guy standing in Iowa outside of the speech w/ like a tri-cornered hat, ringing a bell, w/ a full revolutionary suit. Ahm... there is a lot of a... obviously there is a lot of 911 truther's? Like to the far left who like him. There is a lot of anarchists. Like November 5th ..(guy-fox???) day, as his big fund raising day, that his followers have created. So, ah,... there are a lot of freaks out there.

Tucker:
Wow. Ho.. (laughing)

Stein:
Including you apparently (obviously referring about the "freaks") right?

Tucker:
(laughing) That's ah,... so (guy-fox???) day. Boy you caught me of guard w/ that one. That's farther out even than I realized. Joel Stein, cataloging... The far reaches of the campaign trail. Thanks very much.

Stein:
Thank you.

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These 2 idiots were definitely hand picked for the job, with nothing intelligent to say, & no intelligent angles. Nothing about Freedom, or the "loss" of our Freedoms for that matter. Forget about the Patriot Act, Posse Comitatus, or even Habeas Corpus. If they consider Ron Paul to be a “horrible speaker”, then what would their opinion be of George Bush Jr.? Oops... sorry. I forgot, they are not allowed to critique the select president, & be labeled "evil-lovers". Otherwise, they would loose their highly paid jobs, that provide absolutely nothing for the betterment of society. Empty, garbage-filled propaganda.
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Ron Paul's November 5th's "Victory Day" - 8-) 8-) 8-)

<img src="http://images.forbes.com/media/2007/10/01/paul.jpg" height=375 width=341><img src="http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0710/wron_1112.jpg" height=375 width=500>
<a href="http://images.forbes.com/media/2007/10/01/paul.jpg" target="_blank">Ron Paul - U.S. President 2008</a>

"1" Day - To Ron Paul's November 5th's "Victory Day"

On Behalf of Ron Paul - Nov 5th's Victory Day
Our "Goal" is to collect a "minimum" of 100,000 "Personal Campaign Contributions" of $100 Dollars (USD) each, and thus raise a "minimum" of $10,000,000 Million Dollars (USD) from individuals from all walks of life, and to bring Ron Paul's Campaign up to the "Next Level". Ron Paul has demonstrated to have the wits, the knowledge, the enthusiasm, the energy, the love, and Wisdom needed to bring America back. Ron Paul's platform is that of the Constitution of the U.S.A. and its original intent of true Freedom, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, which belongs to every man, woman, and child. This includes the protection of their Freedom and their Unalienable Rights. Rights, which as per our Constitution, can not be removed by any government under any circumstance. In a world were a monopoly of prosperity, an unfair distribution of wealth, more greed, the lust of power, despotism, and just plain disregard for both humanity and our planet have been established by a secret and occult elite, Ron Paul is our only "Hope" for a true "America". Let's make America beautiful again. Let's together bring Ron Paul to power.

Ron Paul - November 5th Turning Point - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjeesC9NnzU

Ron Paul - November 5th Victory Day - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbWqD8egO9w

Ron Paul - On The Hard Realities Of Our Economy - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cziN3gt-hic

Ron Paul On The Federal Reserve - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kxTkhwR_Q

Ron Paul - On The Tonight Show w Jay Leno - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1EFHgUXZaU

Neo-Cons Never Rest To Find Ways To Harm Us
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/ron_paul_neocons_dream_up_alex_jone_ron_paul_plot. htm

Ron Paul Popular Even Among GOP
http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071102/NEWS01/711020382

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We Can't Have Freedom Without Truth - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

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We Can't Have Freedom Without Truth

We Can't Have Freedom Without Truth
We can't have Freedom w/o Truth . We can't have Freedom w/o being able to "speak" that Truth & w/ the repression to do so by an oppressive government. We can't have Freedom w/o the " Checks & Balances" of the different branches of government. We can't have Freedom in a Republic where the President has a " secret & personal" agenda. We can't have Freedom if " The People" are not being “faithfully & fairly” represented. If our government relies on “falseevents, & “falsesequence of events, “falsewitnesses, “falseevidence, “falsepretences, "false & fabricated" enemies, & ultimately, “falsehistory, we can not be a "Free" people. We can't have Freedom w/o the protection to "unreasonable searches & seizure" & w/o the ability to be able to legally "defend" ourselves from "any charges". We can not be Free w/o "Habeas Corpus". Without these basic rights, w/o these basic legal protections, anyone can be stripped from their Freedom, at any time, plain & simple. If a “dubiousenemy that is detained under “dubiousevidence, & held w/o charge can be "tortured", then "anyone" can be "tortured". When a “governant” can, at the "will" of his "thought" alone, deem anyone an "enemy" w/o these "basic rights", w/o any kind of "legal protections", & w/o any oversight, then that person ("enemy" or "not"), seizes to be a "Free" people. When anyone is treated "inhumanely", then that makes those who provided that treatment, "inhumane". You can't have it both ways. You can not pretend to be a "humane" society, & act "inhumanely". A “governant” that acts w/o any oversight from Congress or "The People" becomes a "Tyrant", becomes, a "Dictator". What makes a "Dictator" more effective than a "legal" Congress w/ an oversight? Absolutely, nothing. To the contrary. That "Tyrant" can run "mad" & do "illegal" things, bend, distort, & transform the truth unrecognizable , or even make-the-truth (which becomes a " falsehood") in order to achieve his " secret & personal" agenda. With a "Tyrant", w/ a "Dictator" a Republic we are no longer .

"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter, and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." – Abraham Lincoln

"That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom , and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." – Abraham Lincoln

"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." – Abraham Lincoln

"If by the mere force of numbers a majority should deprive a minority of any clearly written constitutional right, it might, in a moral point of view, justify revolution." – Abraham Lincoln

"If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow citizens, you can never regain their respect and esteem . It is true that you may fool all the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you can’t fool all of the people all the time." - Abraham Lincoln

There is no honorable way to kill, no gentle way to destroy. There is nothing good in war. Except its ending. - Albert Einstein

Ron Paul - Our Republic Dissolving Into A Military Dictatorship
"The American Republic is in remnant status. The stage is set for our country to devolve into a military dictatorship, and few seem to care." – Rep. Ron Paul
http://www.rense.com/general79/ambush.htm

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The Ron Paul's "Spirit of Freedom" Does It Again

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USA Today Ad Creator & Other Hard-Money Pros Put $s Behind Ron Paul
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=51414

Ron Paul's Ad (Scroll Down)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=36509&highlight=usa+today

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The American "Thought" Revolution...
Because "Freedom" is not only Popular, it is Contagious...

The American "Thought" Revolution - Freedom Is Popular & Contageous

Ron Paul - A Freedom Revolution Already Underway - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYTLOOLSyP8&feature=related

Ron Paul - Great Interview Oct-24-07 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeXhqPIN3qE&feature=related

Ron Paul - Interesting Interview w FOX News - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOrRpNZ9R3E&feature=related

"The American Republic is in remnant status. The stage is set for our country to devolve into a ”Military Dictatorship”, and few seem to care." – Rep. Ron Paul

<ol><li>Restore the Constitution.</li>
<li>Withdrawing US troops from Iraq.</li>
<li>Stop the ongoing slaughter of Iraqi civilians.</li>
<li>Restore the rule of law.</li>
<li>Repeal the Patriot Act.</li>
<li>Repeal the Military Commissions Act.</li>
<li>Reinstate Posse Comitatus.</li>
<li>Reinstate Due Process.</li>
<li>Reinstate Habeas Corpus.</li>
<li>Reinstate the "Presumption of Innocence".</li>
<li>Reinstate Civil Liberties.</li>
<li>Make sure all prisoners – whether Americans or foreign nationals – are treated w/in treaty obligations of the Geneva Convention, the Bill of Rights, and the basic tenets of human decency.</li>
<li>No more "torture".</li>
<li>Stop the government's "spying" on the American people.</li>
<li>Rebuild confidence in our currency, our markets, and our trade policies.</li>
<li>Revamp the IRS, the Federal Reserve, & Dept. of Education.</li></ol>
Good. Let the battle begin. As Thomas Jefferson said, "Every generation needs a new revolution."

The Media’s Plan to Ambush Ron Paul
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18681.htm

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Courage Against All Odds - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

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The Heroes of Freedom
"We owe them. The least we can do is honor them by acting w/ the same resolve of fearless courage & devotion to Freedom, against all odds, & against any circumstance. For Spirit has always existed, & it always will..."

The “Spirit” of Freedom

It is because of brave men like Paul Revere, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, John Adams, Ron Paul & others like them, to which today we owe our "Freedom", or whatever glimpses of real Freedom we actually have. Because of their courage & not their fear is that we are here today being able to converse & write about these ideas. Their resolve to pursue & act amidst opposition & to continue until their vision of Freedom was achieved to the best of their abilities is the “Spirit of Freedom”. Spirit is a life force that comes from within & without this universe. This force can never be destroyed.

Quote:
"Paul Revere is a hero because he risked his life for the colonists. He was a messenger transporting information between the colonies of Lexington and Concord. The members of these colonies were fighting against “Taxation Without Representation." Paul Revere made the famous Midnight Ride from Boston to Concord. He warned the colonists, “The British are coming.” Paul Revere was one of the few living witnesses to hear the first shots of the American Revolutionary War."

“During the Midnight Ride, Paul had to overcome being sought after and captured by the British soldiers. He may have seen the Boston Massacre on Monday, March 5, 1770, an infamous event in American history. Paul was brave enough to travel to England following the Boston Tea Party to deliver a message to King George III explaining the reasons for the Tea Party” FREEDOM HERO: PAUL REVERE – by Sam from New York
<a href="http://www.myhero.com/myhero/hero.asp?hero=revere_new_york" target="_blank">http://www.myhero.com/myhero/hero.asp?hero=revere_new_york</a>
For anyone to think that Ron Paul “hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning” is merely a shortcoming in their inability to realize the power of Spirit, & their inability to envision the “Spirit of Freedom” at work, which is as “alive” today as it was then in March 5th, 1770. Many times throughout history it has been demonstrated that this power is capable of performing & manifesting supernatural acts of Spirit – or miraculous events.

As for Paul Revere was not a self-centered coward because he was more concerned for others than for his own safety .”

If anyone does not understand, that is just because, to know Spirit, you have to be in touch w/ your Spirit.

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Ron Paul - President 2008

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Ron Paul Debating Neo Cons - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IAr5gSP4B0&feature=related

Ron Paul - Getting Better Coverage - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO1sw2Qf1Kc

Ron Paul - On Running Mates & Dennis Kucinich - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1Bybd-sMts&NR=1

Ron Paul - Dennis Kucinich Would Consider Running w Ron Paul- Video
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/68745

Ron Paul - On The Sub-Prime Crisis - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4usb-DCqn0&feature=related

Ron Paul - On The Abuses Of The Patriot Act - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O7D7nDF0U8&feature=related

Ron Paul - On Marijuana Use - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p_G9BPouCo&feature=related

Ron Paul - Talks About Freedom - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_6ScdW6LRs&feature=related

Ron Paul - Interview w Layla Kayleigh - P2 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlpd7-SVJZY

Ron Paul - Interview w Layla Kayleigh - P1 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwoK5HQ39_0&feature=related

Ron Paul - Discusses Views w Students - yT Video - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoE5ExuOw4o&feature=related

Ron Paul - In 1988 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar115s_f2hc&feature=related

Ron Paul - Tea Party 2007 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBR32X8vUy8&feature=related

Ron Paul - Tea Party 07 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKZmIzEMUN8

Ghouliani Drowned By Ron Paul Supporters In Marietta, GA - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G65rqf3gI3Y

Ron Paul - Tells CNN They Are Biased - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smDEz9ovUao

Ron Paul - CNN Notices Again - yT Video
CNN Says: "Ron Paul believes we should bring Impeachment charges against Vice President Dick Cheney & abolish the CIA"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1iFfAvM6jc

Ron Paul Ad - Painfully Broadcast On CNN - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjTAH8Y_L8

Ron Paul - Interview On Dollar, NAU, CFR - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3QAC2yJFdM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2007/291107CFR.htm

Ron Paul - Not Just Popular But American - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM-r0lwnu6o&feature=related

Ron Paul - On The Tax Issue - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFCMXWN1alU

Ron Paul - To Run As Independent - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_of7w174QU0

Ron Paul - On NAU, CFR - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3QAC2yJFdM

Ron Paul - Unplugged - abc Videos
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=3970423&page=1

HR 2415 Gas Price Act - Pain At The Pump - Ron Paul
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2007/tst112507.htm

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Ron Paul - Presidential Candidate 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

Ron Paul - Presidential Candidate 2008
We as a country face a lot of problems today, and I talk a lot about those problems, but the truth is that we have a campaign of hope. We do not despair, because if we do the right things, things will come out alright. It does not mean we don't have difficulties, but it just means that we have to be persistent and our message and our voices have to be heard (applause).

What I think has happened to us in our country is probably a hundred years ago or so, somehow or another, freedom got chopped to pieces. There were some who would defend personal liberty, others would defend economic liberty, and others would have their say about understand or understanding of a foreign policy, which was our traditional foreign policy "of minding our own business" (the crowd raves).

And today, today our goal has to be to bring it back together again. Personal liberty is economic liberty and "true" freedom and following the Constitution means that "we will be bringing our troops home" (the crowd goes on raving). - Ron Paul 2007


Ron Paul - For You - Version II - yT Video

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Ron Paul - For You - Version II - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zdw1opW-NE

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Ron Paul Revolution - President 2008


Ron Paul - In Las Vegas - July 7, 2007- gG Video
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Ron Paul - In Las Vegas - July 7, 2007- gG Video
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<a href="http://www.liberty-watch.com/volume03/issue05/paul_banner.jpg" target="_blank">Ron Paul Revolution - President 2008</a>

Ron Paul Revolution - by Jarret Keene - Liberty Watch
http://www.liberty-watch.com/volume03/issue05/coverstory.php

The new face of the freedom movement is Texas Congressman Ron Paul. The credit mostly goes to the Internet for having brought this principled politician into the light. And Paul is perhaps the only individual for whom “principled politician” isn’t an oxymoron. Among nontraditional campaign contributors online, Paul is the Republican presidential frontrunner, having outpaced Sen. John McCain in fundraising. While the mainstream media continues to blackout Paul, he’s setting the Internet ablaze with a firm position against the Iraq War, against taxes and against big government. Ultimately, more and more people every day are saying yes to Dr. No. (Paul earned the nickname because he is a physician and for voting against any and all tax increases, and against any legislation that expands the federal government’s power as a House Representative.)

Locally, Paul’s impact is being felt. In just two short months, the Las Vegas Ron Paul Meetup Group has ballooned to more than 200 members. (Meetup.com is an online social networking website that facilitates offline group meetings in cities all over the world.) Vegas’ is now the eleventh largest Paul Meetup Group out of 553 nationwide, and is still growing. According to member Arden Osborne, the Vegas group is made up of people “all over the political spectrum, from anti-war Democrats to diehard Libertarians, from disillusioned Republicans to those with no experience involved in political action.” But for Arden, the journey from liberal to born-again freedom-lover began in 2004, when, curious about that year’s presidential election, he began to research George W. Bush on the Internet. What he learned disturbed him, greater than even Michael Moore’s infamous documentary hit job, Fahrenheit 9/11.

“The more I dug, the more I realized that this country is in serious trouble,” says Osborne. “Fact is. you can get more information from some of these websites and alternative media than from Ted Koppel or whomever.”

Osborne noticed Ron Paul’s name popping up in Libertarian websites like LewRockwell.com. Slowly but surely, Osborne’s liberal leanings started to shed and he began to fall in love with the original ideas that founded this country.

“Paul is the only politician I can get excited about at this point,” says Osborne. “He’s the first politician that I have found who has absolute integrity. He bases all his votes and decisions on the basic principles of our Constitution. If you don’t have fixed principles, things like money and power can sway you. That’s what makes Paul an attractive presidential candidate — his principles and integrity.”

Osborne joined the Vegas Paul Meetup Group last May and has never looked back. While the group isn’t officially part of the Paul campaign, Osborne wants to make it clear that he and other local Paul supporters aren’t just idly chatting on the Internet. One prong of the group’s effort is to put Paul’s name out there with visible posters, signs and articles in the print media. Second, the group plans to start knocking on doors.

“The ‘conversion’ rate is amazing,” says Osborne. “Once people learn that Paul voted against the war, against the Patriot Act, against government getting on our backs from the very beginning, people start to view him differently. I’m serious when I say that Paul is our last chance to get rid of the partisan junk. He doesn’t tow the party line. He’ll work both sides of the aisle, but only in accordance with the Constitution. He can bring the country back together and heal. He can reverse some of the self-destructive trends that have been set into motion. Anything else is just more of the same.”

The Las Vegas Ron Paul Meetup Group had an opportunity to meet with the 71-year-old Republican presidential candidate and hear him speak out against the federal government’s ongoing efforts — like a national ID card — to undermine the civil liberties of all Americans. According to an article in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, more than 350 young people comprised the bulk of this audience.

Liberty Watch, on the other hand, was in attendance at FreedomFest, which took place July 5-7 inside Bally’s on the Strip. For those who don’t know, FreedomFest is, at least according to the organization’s website, “an annual festival bringing together hundreds of the best and the brightest free minds from around the world to discuss and debate.” (See this month’s French Connection column for a more fair and balanced perspective.) Paul appeared at FreedomFest on that same Saturday, speaking to a larger, older crowd.

Liberty Watch learned a lot about Paul from our informal chats at his book signing and in the lobby of Bally’s. For instance, Paul gets along well with Democratic presidential candidate and Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich, which is surprising given the latter’s left-leaning views. (Though the mutual respect is perhaps due to the media’s labeling of both candidates as “dark horses” in their respective parties.) And when asked about his thoughts on the growing suspicion in the Internet community that 9/11 was an inside job, Paul revealed that, from what he has read, the event was more likely an “incompetence” job on the part of our national security leaders. But it was only during our more formal interview that Paul revealed what he really thinks about being the favorite candidate among Libertarians and (yikes!) liberals.

Young voters are finding out about you primarily, it seems, via the Internet and your well-received and much-discussed appearances on cable TV shows like “The Colbert Report” and “Real Time with Bill Maher.” How important is the Internet and these political satires to your campaign?

I think they are very crucial, and even though I made a little joke about how such appearances will help a Republican in a Republican primary, it really will be helpful. A lot of new people will come out and vote — that’s what I have found. It’s very, very good for a general audience. If you take the war issue, 70 percent of the people are against the war, and yet not 70 percent — maybe not even 50 percent — of voters would be against the war in the Republican primary. So in order for us to do well in the Republican primary, we have to get people to come over and join us and go into the Republican primary in order to make it practical. But if you just look at the issues and the ability to spread a message, this has been very significant, what the Internet is doing and getting on these shows. Our success is far beyond anything I had anticipated.

How much will the liberal crowd nurture or neuter your anti-war, anti-tax campaign before they start tearing you down — in the way that “mainstream” conservatives like Giuliani already have?

Right now, liberals are the most enthusiastic about my campaign. If I get a speech on the House floor on foreign policy, I’ll get many hundreds — sometimes thousands — of comments sent to my office. I would say 90 percent of them are from Democrats.

Do you worry that’s all machinations? To set you up for defeat later on by somebody more recognizable like Hilary Clinton?

No, I think they’re very sincere, because liberals are very, very frustrated with their own Democrats. Although they know I have shortcomings from their viewpoint — because I’m for free enterprise and free markets — they love my position on civil liberties and they love my position on war. They’re exasperated with their leadership, with Democratic leadership, because they’re not strong enough. Democrats go to their leadership and say, “Why don’t you work and talk like Ron Paul does?” So no, I think they’re very, very sincere. Now, whether or not they’re going to shift gears and come over to the party or not, that’s another thing. But certainly getting the message out and gaining support and introducing new people to these views has been growing by leaps and bounds.

We interviewed former House Speaker Newt Gingrich for the July issue of Liberty Watch: The Magazine. He had only positive things to say about you. In fact, in the last few months, we’ve spoken to many regional and national conservatives, and with the exception of Giuliani, they have nothing negative to say about you. The word “integrity” keeps coming up. Why is it so hard for a politician other than Ron Paul to have the word integrity attached to his or her name?

I don’t have an answer for that. [Laughs.] Maybe there’s a vacuum out there. People come up to me all the time and tell me, “You know, you are the best Congressman in all of Washington D.C.” I say, “It’s nice of you to say that, but considering the competition, it’s no big deal.” But you know, Washington is a mess. It’s been taken over by special interests, and it’s all a reflection of big government. Government is doing too much; it has too much to pass out, and therefore that’s how the system works. Even businesspeople, people who would like to get the government off their backs, have to play politics, because they have to go there and work the lobbying system to try to get relief. My message is much clearer: It’s not a little bit of mismanagement. It’s the whole program that’s wrong. The whole system is wrong. The war is wrong. The way we go to war is wrong. The policies are wrong. I make it much clearer, and I think it’s much easier to understand. I remember in a debate one Republican candidate was asked, “What programs are you going to get rid of?” And he hemmed and hawed and finally came up with one little program that nobody had ever heard of. Of course, my answer was rather clear. Instead of two or three programs, start with three departments — and let’s just get rid of them! So that’s easier to understand.

You currently serve as a role model for many young people interested entering politics so they can make the changes necessary to eliminate taxes and the corrupting influence of big government. Can you offer any good or practical advice to someone who is maybe mulling a decision to run for local office in his or her hometown or district?

The most important thing is to study hard, and understand that if you believe in freedom and limited government, then learn the issues and know how to explain them. Learn the monetary issues and the economic issues. If you know the issues well, you can explain the answers so that people can’t put you down as being uncaring and not compassionate. You have to be able to answer that, because freedom is compassionate, more so than all the authoritarian approaches. And then, when you learn that well and have studied that well, somebody will give you a job. You won’t even have to go looking. Somebody will give you a job.

For more info on Ron Paul, visit ronpaul2008.org. For more info on the Las Vegas Ron Paul Meetup Group, visit ronpaul.meetup.com/47.

http://www.liberty-watch.com/volume03/issue05/coverstory.php

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Ron Paul - Going "MainStream"...

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Ron Paul - On Neal Cavuto - P1 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIPFWQoryP0



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Ron Paul - On Neal Cavuto - P2 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GoG6sKis-M

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The "Boston Tea Party / Freedom Rally" 2007 Has Just Begun...
My dear fellow Americans. If you still believe that Freedom deserves the chance it has been unfairly denied by the controllers that be, we owe it to ourselves to continue our fight for “true” Freedom. “Ron Paul” is our only chance. “Ron Paul” is the man. He is the man with both the knowledge and the courage to stand tall, and walk towards “Freedom”. He stands for everything we know to be true and conducive to real Freedom, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

May the Boston Tea Party ‘07 Begin... (http://www.freedomrally12-16.org:80/)


Tea Party '07 - December 16th, 2007 - To Raise $10,000,000 Million Dollars

e-Mail from "Ron Paul"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Paul 2008" <mail@ronpaul2008.com>
To: All_Americans
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:48 PM
Subject: Message from Ron Paul

December 15, 2007

What an amazing mission you and I are on. What great ideas we uphold -- the legacy of the most important thinkers of liberty in our country's history, and the most important doers of liberty in America. At the top of that list are the donors and volunteers of this campaign.

I could spend all my time thanking personally you and everyone who has done so much for our country's future, and not scratch the surface of what justice demands. But I want you to know how much I owe you, and everyone dedicated to the real America. You and I know our real country -- the America of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, of economic, civil, and personal liberty, of strong families and communities, of great businesses and professions, of strong peace and low taxes and sound money-all of which are under assault by the politicians who occupy our nation's capital.

With your help -- and I can't do anything without your help https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/ -- I want to change all that. Together, we can restore our constitutional republic, and oust the mountebanks who violate the ideals of the Founders with income taxes, Federal Reserve inflation, deficit spending, preemptive wars, torture, secret prisons, and abolition of habeas corpus.

How thrilling too are all the great Independent efforts in this cause, involving so many tens of thousands of patriots. Of course, since they are Independent, the election laws to do not allow me to coordinate with them in any way. But I will mention that this Sunday, I am really going to enjoy my tea at a party!

We are making real progress. And goodness knows we need to. Help https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/ me keep our revolution going and growing. For freedom, peace, and prosperity, for the real America, all our generosity and hard work are justified.

Sincerely,

Ron

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Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
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Ron Paul - Presidential Candidate 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

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”Ron Paul’s” Boston Tea Party 2008 – $10 Million Dollar Fund Raiser

"Ron Paul" is the only true Republican left. Everyone else has chosen to support the NeoCons, or the New-Fascists that are for big Government, globalization, privatization of everything (national parks, the roads and highways, water, and electricity) for the controlling "global" elite, while removing all of our civil liberties, freedom of Speech, freedom to peacefully assemble, due process, Habeas Corpus, Posse Comitatus, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, and the rule of law, except for the law they want to follow, which only protects them from us. In other words, a "New World Order" as dictated by them, the NeoCons, and without the representation of "We The People", which are no longer represented. The NeoCons do not represent Americans or American values, they only represent the "global" elite and their transnational corporations. They want to remove and destroy our "national sovereignty" and turn America and the United States into a thing of the past , an obsolete concept. So, if you are like the majority of Americans , over a good 80% of US, you still believe in Freedom, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, as granted by our Constitution of the United States of America. To make the American Dream real, we are going to fight for it...

(Sorry “World,” although most of this applies to you also, we are fighting this “war” here first. To become a beacon of “Freedom,” we must first be completely free from any kind of tyranny or oppression here at home. But since we were once free, although very short lived, we can make sure this time is for keeps – may God bless all people around the globe.)

Ron Paul – The Land Of The Free
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Ron Paul – The Land Of The Free – yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsDlO2Lr_cg


Ron Paul 2008
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Boston Tea Party 2007
http://www.ronpaulgraphs.com/dec_16_vs_nov_5_total.html

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
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<a href="http://www.liberty-watch.com/volume03/issue05/paulpic1.jpg" target="_blank">Ron Paul - President 2008</a>

"Ron Paul's" Prelude To The Primaries
The message is clear, "Freedom" is Popular. Ron Paul is the Freedom President. The Champion of the Constitution. He is a True American. A True Patriot.

"Ron Paul" Supporters At It Again - At The Boston Tea Party Fund Raiser
"Ron Paul" supporters are definitely seriously going at it this time. They know that to win the Presidency, we have to win the "primaries" & have Ron Paul win the nomination. The media may ignore the message, but Americans are not going to ignore Freedom much longer. We are gathering free thinking, Freedom loving Americans by the truckloads. The message is clear, "Freedom" will rein. Freedom is our unalienable right, given to us by the Creator. There is no giving up of Freedom for any kind of "security." If we are not Free we are not "secure." Period. There is no compromising Freedom.

$18,135,915.45 December 17, 2007, at 2:38 a.m. EST
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Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul - Presidential Candidate 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

Ron Paul's Campaign TV Ads & Messages Of Freedom

Ron Paul - Iowa TV Special - P1 - yt Video
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Ron Paul - Iowa TV Special - P1 - yt Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQNWHmiGj-k


Ron Paul - Iowa TV Special - P2 - yt Video
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Ron Paul - Iowa TV Special - P2 - yt Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wekzQrQfacg


Ron Paul - Season's Greetings - yt Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZPCWGtIupE&feature=user

Ron Paul - New Hampshire TV Ad 2 - yt Video
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Ron Paul - New Hampshire TV Ad 2 - yt Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay4vXZWxeuU


Ron Paul - New Hampshire TV Ad 3 - yt Video
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Ron Paul - New Hampshire TV Ad 3 - yt Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0_ZCEc9bi8


Ron Paul - Restore The Republic - yt Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDJYRITWqRE

Ron Paul - Iowa TV Ads - yt Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQH5uCTOLu0

Ron Paul - Healthcare TV Ad - yt Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENfMexgorp4

Ron Paul - Freedom Warrior - yt Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OoPQYIwMO8

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul - Presidential Candidate 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

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<a href="http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/01/venn-of-paul.jpg" target="_blank">The Venn Of Paul</a>

The Apostles of Ron Paul
How does a 72-year-old conservative Texas congressman become the hottest thing in online politics? Ask the techies, hippies, tax haters, and war protesters who believe that only Ron Paul can save America from itself. - By Josh Harkinson

The Apostles of Ron Paul
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/01/ron-paul-apostles-libertarian-theology.html

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul - Presidential Candidate 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

"Ron Paul" – Getting Air Time On CNN

Ron Paul - On CNN Wolf Blitzer - 120207 yT Video
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Ron Paul - On CNN Wolf Blitzer - 120207 yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ajC0Wl116I


Ron Paul - On The View - 120407 yT Video
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Ron Paul - On The View - 120407 yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSp_OfZ5Mdw


Ron Paul - On CNN Anderson Cooper 360 yT Video
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Ron Paul - On CNN Anderson Cooper 360 yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld_TGAq3NF8


Ron Paul - Debates Paul-O-Rama yT Video
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Ron Paul - Debates Paul-O-Rama yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_ffYLwLGYA

Towards the end here, "Ron Paul" puts on a "Ron Paul" t-shirt & flashes the audience w/ what is a absolutely clear, a pair of "Peace" hand-signs, one on each hand.

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul - Presidential Candidate 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

"Ron Paul" – Revolution On The Rise...

Ron Paul - Rising - yT Video
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Ron Paul - Rising - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRTDynbHVYQ

Ron Paul - Unhappy USA Why Ron Paul Rising - yT Video
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Ron Paul - Unhappy USA Why Ron Paul Rising - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufpC_yXh-BQ

Ron Paul - Revolution - yT Video
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Ron Paul - Revolution - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAmuouiN1rA

Ron Paul - On G4 - Guns, Militia, Switzerland - yT Video
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Ron Paul - On G4 - Guns, Militia, Switzerland - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MB_rmUgH5o

Ron Paul - We Must Act - yT Video
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Ron Paul - We Must Act - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoMcLjuUCks

Ron Paul - Can Ron Paul Win - yT Video
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Ron Paul - Can Ron Paul Win - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA3oO3b2g8I

Ron Paul - Proof Polls Are Rigged - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSYiUAaBd1U

Ron Paul - Can Win The Nomination Scientifically - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDIiQcCyuxU

Ron Paul - Is As American As They Come - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg-qsOA0NPk

John Lennon - Give Peace A chance - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMPujpWGsiw

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul - Presidential Candidate 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

Ron Paul - Getting "Air Time" - On Meet The Press...

Ron Paul - On Meet The Press 12-23-07

Ron Paul - On Meet The Press 12-23-07 - P1 - yT Video
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Ron Paul - On Meet The Press 12-23-07 - P1 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saDw03JXigA

Ron Paul - On Meet The Press 12-23-07 - P2 - yT Video
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Ron Paul - On Meet The Press 12-23-07 - P2 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgTqSu-ZVFM

Ron Paul - On Meet The Press 12-23-07 - P3 - yT Video
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Ron Paul - On Meet The Press 12-23-07 - P3 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-iJP4BAAQ4

Ron Paul - On Meet The Press 12-23-07 - P4 - yT Video
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Ron Paul - On Meet The Press 12-23-07 - P4 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCSY438wpCk

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul - Presidential Candidate 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

Ron Paul - Getting "Air Time" - On Glenn Beck CNN...

Ron Paul Talks About Our Philosophical Enemies "Domestic"

Ron Paul: Thank you Glenn. Nice to be w/ you.

Glenn Beck: Ok. You are on the campaign trail, which is the reason why you are not in the studio now. And I want to get to some of your more controversial positions later on into the program, but I thought we would start on some, on a few of the things I almost never see anybody talk about with you. The real things that "most conservatives do agree w/ you on". I am going to start by playing a clip of something you said just last week in the debate in Iowa.

Ron Paul: I re-read the oath of office, take it seriously, obey the Constitution. We are well defended against all enemies foreign. We should be much more careful about defending against the enemies domestic.

Glenn Beck: Who Sir do you,... who do you believe are the enemies domestic?

I don't see them as individuals or personalities, I see it as a philosophic danger endorsed by the status quo. Most members of congress, most members who have been in the executive branch over the years. The undermining of our personal economic liberties, our personally liberties, our privacy. There's been a special erosion of these privacy issues since 911. So it is, something is been engrained in our system, you know. Economic liberty is very, very important. But that's been undermined, you know, for 70 or 80 years specially since the "depression". So I see them in philosophic terms, rather than in personality terms.

Ron Paul - On Glenn Beck CNN - 12-18-07 - yT Video
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Ron Paul - On Glenn Beck CNN - 12-18-07 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZXWW4C2kpE

Ron Paul's 3 Biggest Enemies - by Devvy Kidd
Enemy number one: Ron Paul is a target of the compromised "mainstream media" and that includes cable network propaganda machines like FAUX (FOX) News, MSNBC and CNN.
Enemy number two: Ron Paul supporters. What? Yes, and let me give you one example,
Enemy number three: Electronic voting machines. If you have an agenda and you want it to go forward, you make sure the lawmakers and policy makers, both county, state and federal, are put in office and stay in office. THAT is the purpose of electronic voting machines.

Ron Paul's 3 Biggest Enemies - by Devvy Kidd
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd330.htm

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Control Structure: Elite Secret Societies - ??? :-o :-o :-o

Control Structure: Elite Secret Societies

The Illuminati DVD- gG Video

The Illuminati DVD - P1 - gG Video
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The Illuminati DVD - P1 - gG Video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1711167042360042859


The Illuminati DVD - P2 - gG Video
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The Illuminati DVD - P2 - gG Video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4252024791562244343

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul - Presidential Candidate 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

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<a href="http://images.forbes.com/media/2007/10/01/paul.jpg" target="_blank">Ron Paul - U.S. President 2008</a>

]Freedom Under Siege - by "Ron Paul"

Freedom Under Siege - by Ron Paul (e-Book)
http://www.dailypaul.com/freedom-under-siege/Freedom-Under-Siege-complete.pdf

Freedom Under Siege - by Ron Paul (e-Book on Web)
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Ron Paul - President 2008 - 8-) 8-) 8-)

Ron Paul - President 2008

Ron Paul - Getting Better Coverage

Ron Paul - On Mad Money w Cramer - yT Video
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Ron Paul - On Mad Money w Cramer - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq7Li1MOF2Y

Ron Paul - The Revolution - yT Video
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Ron Paul - The Revolution - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pda-rT1sf2M

Ron Paul - At Iowa GOP Debate - yT Video
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Ron Paul - At Iowa GOP Debate - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iStNuhCA-5s

Ron Paul - Post-Debate CNN Interviews - yT Video
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Ron Paul - Post-Debate CNN Interviews - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnzQ8YxaktI

Ron Paul - On The Spirit Of Freedom - yT Video
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Ron Paul - On The Spirit Of Freedom - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NtXuP-JDN8

Ron Paul - Washington Didn't Change Me - yT Video
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Ron Paul - Washington Didn't Change Me - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mALpnSTGAQs

Ron Paul - Supported By Freedom Lovers - yT Video
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Ron Paul - Supported By Freedom Lovers - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OujsAXBqqic

Ron Paul - On Fox - 121807 - yT Video
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The Money Masters

The Money Masters
THE MONEY MASTERS is a 3 1/2 hour non-fiction, historical documentary that traces the origins of the political power structure that rules our nation and the world today. The modern political power structure has its roots in the hidden manipulation and accumulation of gold and other forms of money. The development of “Fractional Reserve Banking” practices in the 17th century brought to a cunning sophistication the secret techniques initially used by goldsmiths fraudulently to accumulate wealth. With the formation of the privately-owned Bank of England in 1694, the yoke of economic slavery to a privately-owned "central" bank was first forced upon the backs of an entire nation, not removed but only made heavier with the passing of the three centuries to our day. Nation after nation, including America, has fallen prey to this cabal of international central bankers.

This video does not contradict anything we don’t already know. To the contrary, it reinforces what we have learned about those who own & control our world, by controlling the issuance of money & its value. These “central bankers”, as they are referred to, establish, control & manipulate the value of money, for the only purpose of maintaining their hegemonic plutocracy, and ultimately, to maintain ownership & control the entire world, for only selfish reasons, & enforced by the barrels of their guns.

Although we have seen good documentaries & articles written, that explain, by breaking down the pyramid of control, this video does not mention any specific secret organizations or societies, but it does its job by focusing on the “central bankers” as a group of super wealthy & very influential men. And it accomplishes this effort w/o delving into who controls them, the “central bankers”. It does however, every now & then, makes mention of secret societies & treaties, along w/ dates & names of these people & their families.

The information contained here explains what some refer to as the “business cycle”, how this cycle creates times of prosperity, & times of financial chaos, turmoil & devastation. How those who own the gold, make the rules for the rest to follow. How this power, concentrated in the hands of a very few, own, control, & dictate what governments enact, in an effort to “pretend” to address the chaos we are forced into. It explains why our government has been hijacked from day one. It explains why all wars & all financial depressions, & economic collapses are neither accident, nor casualty, but a direct, deliberate, pre-planned, & orchestrated inhumane thievery by these “masters”. This includes every major political movement, every war, every revolution, & every financial collapse in recorded history. These “master” determine how much money you will make, & how much money you will pay for the things you need to live in their world. The catch is, that for them to make their profits, as “decreed on paper”, every now & then, they literally “pull the plug”, & to allow the financial avalanche to begin to roll. At the end, no real wealth is destroyed, but merely transferred back to them, & back into their vaults. Here the word “catalyst” comes to mind. This is how they, cold blooded & w/o mercy, speed things up.

This documentary explains how after World War II (if I remember correctly), England conspired to get back the all of the gold they lost to the United States. How they planned, orchestrated, & “legally” & systematically, & w/ the help of our own government, executed the transfer, a task that took over 40 years to accomplish. Now that’s a real conspiracy, & the biggest theft of all times.

Both the gold standard & the silver standard are covered. However, it warns about the dangers of a pure “gold standard”, & it explains why.

This video puts everything into perspective. It demonstrates the mess we are in, & how we got here. How these “central bankers” suck in the wealth, & thus the hard earned fruits of our labor, out of every nation, every society, & every individual everywhere in the world, & thus it clearly shows why there must be millions of people starving & dying each & every day w/o end. Why this happens, & it is allowed to happen.

I could go on, & on, & on,.. but it is sad to know that so much misery, so much evil, & so much inhumanity is brought upon us by so very few people that are simply aided & abetted by their ignorant & foolish followers.

Now, the question is, when will this madness end & what will it take to end it? The creators of this presentation & documentary claim there is a way to recover, & thus a way to regain back the control of our currency & its value, as inspired by presidents such as Abraham Lincoln, James Madison, & Andrew Jackson.

As he puts it, "Issuing our own debt-free money is not a radical solution. It's the same solution proposed at different points in U.S. history by men like Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Martin Van Buren, Abraham Lincoln, William Jennings Bryan, Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, numerous Congressmen and economists."

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The Money Masters – Transcript (Partial – Some pieces & sections seem to be missing.)
http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/money-masters.html

The Money Masters - Official Website
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Money Masters DVD - 2 Vols - $19.95
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Ron Paul - President 2008

Ron Paul - The People's President 2008

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Ron Paul - The People's President 2008

He might not be liked by the establishment, but he is certainly well liked by at least the 70% or more Americans who want out of these bogus wars, & that’s besides the new numbers of newcomers that are constantly joining in on his support daily. Yes, the debates are (attempted) to be fixed, & w/ great success rate. The polls are fixed, the questioning is fixed, & the evidence has been caught on both audio & video. But they can’t fix the crowds, they can’t beat his persona, they can’t beat his honesty, they can’t beat the supporter’s enthusiasm, & above all, they can’t beat the spontaneity & the Spirit of Freedom. Ron Paul is truly the people’s President.

Ron Beats Rudy?
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Denmark-Based Saxo Bank Predicts Ron Paul Presidency In 2008

Denmark-Based Saxo Bank Predicts Ron Paul Presidency In 2008
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Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:08:48

Denmark-Based Saxo Bank predicts Ron Paul presidency in 2008, saying US economy will plunge into a depression prior to the election.

The Bank predicted that Ron Paul, US congressman and Republican presidential candidate, will win the US 2008 Presidential Election.

Saxo Bank says the US Economy will shrink by 25% and the Chinese economy will decrease by 40%. The economic downturn will come about as a result of the housing crash.

Ron Paul has been critical of the Federal Reserve and has blamed the Federal Reserve for causing the real estate bubble and crash. Paul has said that the loose monetary policy of the Fed had artificially inflated real estate prices which lead to the collapse.

Paul supports 'Sound Money' and opposes the Federal Reserve's 'Inflation Tax' and says that he wants to prevent a dollar collapse.

Saxo Bank also predicts $175 a barrel for oil and the price of grain will double. Some have predicted that oil will climb to $250 a barrel if the US attacks Iran. The bank also predicts that 30% of large building companies will go bankrupt.

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Questions The Media Will Not Ask About Ron Paul
http://www.primarilypaul.com/2008/01/01/questions-the-media-wont-ask-about-ron-paul

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Neo-Conned - by Ron Paul

Honorable Ron Paul Of Texas - In The House Of Representatives - July 10, 2003
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr071003.htm

Neo – Conned!

The modern-day limited-government movement has been co-opted. The conservatives have failed in their effort to shrink the size of government. There has not been, nor will there soon be, a conservative revolution in Washington. Party control of the federal government has changed, but the inexorable growth in the size and scope of government has continued unabated. The liberal arguments for limited government in personal affairs and foreign military adventurism were never seriously considered as part of this revolution.

Since the change of the political party in charge has not made a difference, who’s really in charge? If the particular party in power makes little difference, whose policy is it that permits expanded government programs, increased spending, huge deficits, nation building and the pervasive invasion of our privacy, with fewer Fourth Amendment protections than ever before?

Someone is responsible, and it’s important that those of us who love liberty, and resent big-brother government, identify the philosophic supporters who have the most to say about the direction our country is going. If they’re wrong—and I believe they are—we need to show it, alert the American people, and offer a more positive approach to government. However, this depends on whether the American people desire to live in a free society and reject the dangerous notion that we need a strong central government to take care of us from the cradle to the grave. Do the American people really believe it’s the government’s responsibility to make us morally better and economically equal? Do we have a responsibility to police the world, while imposing our vision of good government on everyone else in the world with some form of utopian nation building? If not, and the contemporary enemies of liberty are exposed and rejected, then it behooves us to present an alternative philosophy that is morally superior and economically sound and provides a guide to world affairs to enhance peace and commerce.

One thing is certain: conservatives who worked and voted for less government in the Reagan years and welcomed the takeover of the U.S. Congress and the presidency in the 1990s and early 2000s were deceived. Soon they will realize that the goal of limited government has been dashed and that their views no longer matter.

The so-called conservative revolution of the past two decades has given us massive growth in government size, spending and regulations. Deficits are exploding and the national debt is now rising at greater than a half-trillion dollars per year. Taxes do not go down—even if we vote to lower them. They can’t, as long as spending is increased, since all spending must be paid for one way or another. Both Presidents Reagan and the elder George Bush raised taxes directly. With this administration, so far, direct taxes have been reduced—and they certainly should have been—but it means little if spending increases and deficits rise.

When taxes are not raised to accommodate higher spending, the bills must be paid by either borrowing or “printing” new money. This is one reason why we conveniently have a generous Federal Reserve chairman who is willing to accommodate the Congress. With borrowing and inflating, the “tax” is delayed and distributed in a way that makes it difficult for those paying the tax to identify it. Like future generations and those on fixed incomes who suffer from rising prices, and those who lose jobs they certainly feel the consequences of economic dislocation that this process causes. Government spending is always a “tax” burden on the American people and is never equally or fairly distributed. The poor and low-middle income workers always suffer the most from the deceitful tax of inflation and borrowing.

Many present-day conservatives, who generally argue for less government and supported the Reagan/Gingrich/Bush takeover of the federal government, are now justifiably disillusioned. Although not a monolithic group, they wanted to shrink the size of government.

Early in our history, the advocates of limited, constitutional government recognized two important principles: the rule of law was crucial, and a constitutional government must derive “just powers from the consent of the governed.” It was understood that an explicit transfer of power to government could only occur with power rightfully and naturally endowed to each individual as a God-given right. Therefore, the powers that could be transferred would be limited to the purpose of protecting liberty. Unfortunately, in the last 100 years, the defense of liberty has been fragmented and shared by various groups, with some protecting civil liberties, others economic freedom, and a small diverse group arguing for a foreign policy of nonintervention.

The philosophy of freedom has had a tough go of it, and it was hoped that the renewed interest in limited government of the past two decades would revive an interest in reconstituting the freedom philosophy into something more consistent. Those who worked for the goal of limited government power believed the rhetoric of politicians who promised smaller government. Sometimes it was just plain sloppy thinking on their part, but at other times, they fell victim to a deliberate distortion of a concise limited-government philosophy by politicians who misled many into believing that we would see a rollback on government intrusiveness.

Yes, there was always a remnant who longed for truly limited government and maintained a belief in the rule of law, combined with a deep conviction that free people and a government bound by a Constitution were the most advantageous form of government. They recognized it as the only practical way for prosperity to be spread to the maximum number of people while promoting peace and security.

That remnant—imperfect as it may have been—was heard from in the elections of 1980 and 1994 and then achieved major victories in 2000 and 2002 when professed limited-government proponents took over the White House, the Senate and the House. However, the true believers in limited government are now shunned and laughed at. At the very least, they are ignored—except when they are used by the new leaders of the right, the new conservatives now in charge of the U.S. government.

The remnant’s instincts were correct, and the politicians placated them with talk of free markets, limited government, and a humble, non-nation-building foreign policy. However, little concern for civil liberties was expressed in this recent quest for less government. Yet, for an ultimate victory of achieving freedom, this must change. Interest in personal privacy and choices has generally remained outside the concern of many conservatives—especially with the great harm done by their support of the drug war. Even though some confusion has emerged over our foreign policy since the breakdown of the Soviet empire, it’s been a net benefit in getting some conservatives back on track with a less militaristic, interventionist foreign policy. Unfortunately, after 9-ll, the cause of liberty suffered a setback. As a result, millions of Americans voted for the less-than-perfect conservative revolution because they believed in the promises of the politicians.

Now there’s mounting evidence to indicate exactly what happened to the revolution. Government is bigger than ever, and future commitments are overwhelming. Millions will soon become disenchanted with the new status quo delivered to the American people by the advocates of limited government and will find it to be just more of the old status quo. Victories for limited government have turned out to be hollow indeed.

Since the national debt is increasing at a rate greater than a half-trillion dollars per year, the debt limit was recently increased by an astounding $984 billion dollars. Total U.S. government obligations are $43 trillion, while the total net worth of U.S. households is about $40.6 trillion. The country is broke, but no one in Washington seems to notice or care. The philosophic and political commitment for both guns and butter—and especially the expanding American empire—must be challenged. This is crucial for our survival.

In spite of the floundering economy, Congress and the Administration continue to take on new commitments in foreign aid, education, farming, medicine, multiple efforts at nation building, and preemptive wars around the world. Already we’re entrenched in Iraq and Afghanistan, with plans to soon add new trophies to our conquest. War talk abounds as to when Syria, Iran and North Korea will be attacked.

How did all this transpire? Why did the government do it? Why haven’t the people objected? How long will it go on before something is done? Does anyone care?

Will the euphoria of grand military victories—against non-enemies—ever be mellowed? Someday, we as a legislative body must face the reality of the dire situation in which we have allowed ourselves to become enmeshed. Hopefully, it will be soon!

We got here because ideas do have consequences. Bad ideas have bad consequences, and even the best of intentions have unintended consequences. We need to know exactly what the philosophic ideas were that drove us to this point; then, hopefully, reject them and decide on another set of intellectual parameters.

There is abundant evidence exposing those who drive our foreign policy justifying preemptive war. Those who scheme are proud of the achievements in usurping control over foreign policy. These are the neoconservatives of recent fame. Granted, they are talented and achieved a political victory that all policymakers must admire. But can freedom and the republic survive this takeover? That question should concern us.

neoconservatives are obviously in positions of influence and are well-placed throughout our government and the media. An apathetic Congress put up little resistance and abdicated its responsibilities over foreign affairs. The electorate was easily influenced to join in the patriotic fervor supporting the military adventurism advocated by the neoconservatives.

The numbers of those who still hope for truly limited government diminished and had their concerns ignored these past 22 months, during the aftermath of 9-11. Members of Congress were easily influenced to publicly support any domestic policy or foreign military adventure that was supposed to help reduce the threat of a terrorist attack. Believers in limited government were harder to find. Political money, as usual, played a role in pressing Congress into supporting almost any proposal suggested by the neocons. This process—where campaign dollars and lobbying efforts affect policy—is hardly the domain of any single political party, and unfortunately, is the way of life in Washington.

There are many reasons why government continues to grow. It would be naïve for anyone to expect otherwise. Since 9-11, protection of privacy, whether medical, personal or financial, has vanished. Free speech and the Fourth Amendment have been under constant attack. Higher welfare expenditures are endorsed by the leadership of both parties. Policing the world and nation-building issues are popular campaign targets, yet they are now standard operating procedures. There’s no sign that these programs will be slowed or reversed until either we are stopped by force overseas (which won’t be soon) or we go broke and can no longer afford these grandiose plans for a world empire (which will probably come sooner than later.)

None of this happened by accident or coincidence. Precise philosophic ideas prompted certain individuals to gain influence to implement these plans. The neoconservatives—a name they gave themselves—diligently worked their way into positions of power and influence. They documented their goals, strategy and moral justification for all they hoped to accomplish. Above all else, they were not and are not conservatives dedicated to limited, constitutional government.

Neo-conservatism has been around for decades and, strangely, has connections to past generations as far back as Machiavelli. Modern-day neo-conservatism was introduced to us in the 1960s. It entails both a detailed strategy as well as a philosophy of government. The ideas of Teddy Roosevelt, and certainly Woodrow Wilson, were quite similar to many of the views of present-day neocons. Neocon spokesman Max Boot brags that what he advocates is “hard Wilsonianism.” In many ways, there’s nothing “neo” about their views, and certainly nothing conservative. Yet they have been able to co-opt the conservative movement by advertising themselves as a new or modern form of conservatism.

More recently, the modern-day neocons have come from the far left, a group historically identified as former Trotskyites . Liberal, Christopher Hitchens, has recently officially joined the neocons, and it has been reported that he has already been to the White House as an ad hoc consultant. Many neocons now in positions of influence in Washington can trace their status back to Professor Leo Strauss of the University of Chicago. One of Strauss ’ books was Thoughts on Machiavelli. This book was not a condemnation of Machiavelli’s philosophy. Paul Wolfowitz actually got his PhD under Strauss . Others closely associated with these views are Richard Perle, Eliot Abrams, Robert Kagan, and William Kristol. All are key players in designing our new strategy of preemptive war. Others include: Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute; former CIA Director James Woolsey; Bill Bennett of Book of Virtues fame; Frank Gaffney; Dick Cheney; and Donald Rumsfeld. There are just too many to mention who are philosophically or politically connected to the neocon philosophy in some varying degree.

The godfather of modern-day neo-conservatism is considered to be Irving Kristol, father of Bill Kristol, who set the stage in 1983 with his publication Reflections of a Neoconservative. In this book, Kristol also defends the traditional liberal position on welfare.

More important than the names of people affiliated with neo-conservatism are the views they adhere to. Here is a brief summary of the general understanding of what neocons believe:

They agree with Trotsky on permanent revolution, violent as well as intellectual.

They are for redrawing the map of the Middle East and are willing to use force to do so.

They believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends.

They accept the notion that the ends justify the means—that hardball politics is a moral necessity.

They express no opposition to the welfare state.

They are not bashful about an American empire; instead they strongly endorse it.

They believe lying is necessary for the state to survive.

They believe a powerful federal government is a benefit.

They believe pertinent facts about how a society should be run should be held by the elite and withheld from those who do not have the courage to deal with it.

They believe neutrality in foreign affairs is ill advised.

They hold Leo Strauss in high esteem.

They believe imperialism, if progressive in nature, is appropriate.

Using American might to force American ideals on others is acceptable. Force should not be limited to the defense of our country.

9-11 resulted from the lack of foreign entanglements, not from too many.

They dislike and despise libertarians (therefore, the same applies to all strict constitutionalists.)

They endorse attacks on civil liberties, such as those found in the Patriot Act, as being necessary.

They unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud Party.

Various organizations and publications over the last 30 years have played a significant role in the rise to power of the neoconservatives. It took plenty of money and commitment to produce the intellectual arguments needed to convince the many participants in the movement of its respectability.

It is no secret—especially after the rash of research and articles written about the neocons since our invasion of Iraq—how they gained influence and what organizations were used to promote their cause. Although for decades, they agitated for their beliefs through publications like The National Review, The Weekly Standard, The Public Interest, The Wall Street Journal, Commentary, and the New York Post, their views only gained momentum in the 1990s following the first Persian Gulf War—which still has not ended even with removal of Saddam Hussein. They became convinced that a much more militant approach to resolving all the conflicts in the Middle East was an absolute necessity, and they were determined to implement that policy.

In addition to publications, multiple think tanks and projects were created to promote their agenda. A product of the Bradley Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) led the neocon charge, but the real push for war came from the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) another organization helped by the Bradley Foundation. This occurred in 1998 and was chaired by Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol. They urged early on for war against Iraq, but were disappointed with the Clinton administration, which never followed through with its periodic bombings. Obviously, these bombings were motivated more by Clinton’s personal and political problems than a belief in the neocon agenda.

The election of 2000 changed all that. The Defense Policy Board, chaired by Richard Perle, played no small role in coordinating the various projects and think tanks, all determined to take us into war against Iraq. It wasn’t too long before the dream of empire was brought closer to reality by the election of 2000 with Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld playing key roles in this accomplishment. The plan to promote an “American greatness” imperialistic foreign policy was now a distinct possibility. Iraq offered a great opportunity to prove their long-held theories. This opportunity was a consequence of the 9-11 disaster.

The money and views of Rupert Murdoch also played a key role in promoting the neocon views, as well as rallying support by the general population, through his News Corporation, which owns Fox News Network, the New York Post, and Weekly Standard. This powerful and influential media empire did more to galvanize public support for the Iraqi invasion than one might imagine. This facilitated the Rumsfeld/Cheney policy as their plans to attack Iraq came to fruition. It would have been difficult for the neocons to usurp foreign policy from the restraints of Colin Powell’s State Department without the successful agitation of the Rupert Murdoch empire. Max Boot was satisfied, as he explained: “Neoconservatives believe in using American might to promote American ideals abroad.” This attitude is a far cry from the advice of the Founders, who advocated no entangling alliances and neutrality as the proper goal of American foreign policy.

Let there be no doubt, those in the neocon camp had been anxious to go to war against Iraq for a decade. They justified the use of force to accomplish their goals, even if it required preemptive war. If anyone doubts this assertion, they need only to read of their strategy in “A Clean Break: a New Strategy for Securing the Realm.” Although they felt morally justified in changing the government in Iraq, they knew that public support was important, and justification had to be given to pursue the war. Of course, a threat to us had to exist before the people and the Congress would go along with war. The majority of Americans became convinced of this threat, which, in actuality, never really existed. Now we have the ongoing debate over the location of weapons of mass destruction. Where was the danger? Was all this killing and spending necessary? How long will this nation building and dying go on? When will we become more concerned about the needs of our own citizens than the problems we sought in Iraq and Afghanistan? Who knows where we’ll go next—Iran, Syria or North Korea?

At the end of the Cold War, the neoconservatives realized a rearrangement of the world was occurring and that our superior economic and military power offered them a perfect opportunity to control the process of remaking the Middle East.

It was recognized that a new era was upon us, and the neocons welcomed Frances Fukuyama’s “end of history” declaration. To them, the debate was over. The West won; the Soviets lost. Old-fashioned communism was dead. Long live the new era of neoconservatism. The struggle may not be over, but the West won the intellectual fight, they reasoned. The only problem is that the neocons decided to define the philosophy of the victors. They have been amazingly successful in their efforts to control the debate over what Western values are and by what methods they will be spread throughout the world.

Communism surely lost a lot with the breakup of the Soviet Empire, but this can hardly be declared a victory for American liberty, as the Founders understood it. Neoconservatism is not the philosophy of free markets and a wise foreign policy. Instead, it represents big-government welfare at home and a program of using our military might to spread their version of American values throughout the world. Since neoconservatives dominate the way the U.S. government now operates, it behooves us all to understand their beliefs and goals. The breakup of the Soviet system may well have been an epic event but to say that the views of the neocons are the unchallenged victors and that all we need do is wait for their implementation is a capitulation to controlling the forces of history that many Americans are not yet ready to concede. There is surely no need to do so.

There is now a recognized philosophic connection between modern-day neoconservatives and Irving Kristol, Leo Strauss , and Machiavelli. This is important in understanding that today’s policies and the subsequent problems will be with us for years to come if these policies are not reversed.

Not only did Leo Strauss write favorably of Machiavelli, Michael Ledeen, a current leader of the neoconservative movement, did the same in 1999 in his book with the title, Machiavelli on Modern Leadership, and subtitled: Why Machiavelli’s iron rules are as timely and important today as five centuries ago. Ledeen is indeed an influential neocon theorist whose views get lots of attention today in Washington. His book on Machiavelli, interestingly enough, was passed out to Members of Congress attending a political strategy meeting shortly after its publication and at just about the time A Clean Break was issued.

In Ledeen’s most recent publication, The War Against the Terror Masters, he reiterates his beliefs outlined in this 1999 Machaivelli book. He specifically praises: “Creative destruction…both within our own society and abroad…(foreigners) seeing America undo traditional societies may fear us, for they do not wish to be undone.” Amazingly, Ledeen concludes: “They must attack us in order to survive, just as we must destroy them to advance our historic mission.”

If those words don’t scare you, nothing will. If they are not a clear warning, I don’t know what could be. It sounds like both sides of each disagreement in the world will be following the principle of preemptive war. The world is certainly a less safe place for it.

In Machiavelli on Modern Leadership, Ledeen praises a business leader for correctly understanding Machiavelli: “There are no absolute solutions. It all depends. What is right and what is wrong depends on what needs to be done and how.” This is a clear endorsement of situational ethics and is not coming from the traditional left. It reminds me of: “It depends on what the definition of the word ‘is’ is.”

Ledeen quotes Machiavelli approvingly on what makes a great leader. “A prince must have no other objectives or other thoughts or take anything for his craft, except war.” To Ledeen, this meant: “…the virtue of the warrior are those of great leaders of any successful organization.” Yet it’s obvious that war is not coincidental to neocon philosophy, but an integral part. The intellectuals justify it, and the politicians carry it out. There’s a precise reason to argue for war over peace according to Ledeen, for “…peace increases our peril by making discipline less urgent, encouraging some of our worst instincts, in depriving us of some of our best leaders.” Peace, he claims, is a dream and not even a pleasant one, for it would cause indolence and would undermine the power of the state. Although I concede the history of the world is a history of frequent war, to capitulate and give up even striving for peace—believing peace is not a benefit to mankind—is a frightening thought that condemns the world to perpetual war and justifies it as a benefit and necessity. These are dangerous ideas, from which no good can come.

The conflict of the ages has been between the state and the individual: central power versus liberty. The more restrained the state and the more emphasis on individual liberty, the greater has been the advancement of civilization and general prosperity. Just as man’s condition was not locked in place by the times and wars of old and improved with liberty and free markets, there’s no reason to believe a new stage for man might not be achieved by believing and working for conditions of peace. The inevitability and so-called need for preemptive war should never be intellectually justified as being a benefit. Such an attitude guarantees the backsliding of civilization. Neocons, unfortunately, claim that war is in man’s nature and that we can’t do much about it, so let’s use it to our advantage by promoting our goodness around the world through force of arms. That view is anathema to the cause of liberty and the preservation of the Constitution. If it is not loudly refuted, our future will be dire indeed.

Ledeen believes man is basically evil and cannot be left to his own desires. Therefore, he must have proper and strong leadership, just as Machiavelli argued. Only then can man achieve good, as Ledeen explains: “In order to achieve the most noble accomplishments, the leader may have to ‘enter into evil.’ This is the chilling insight that has made Machiavelli so feared, admired and challenging…we are rotten,” argues Ledeen. “It’s true that we can achieve greatness if, and only if, we are properly led.” In other words, man is so depraved that individuals are incapable of moral, ethical and spiritual greatness, and achieving excellence and virtue can only come from a powerful authoritarian leader. What depraved ideas are these to now be influencing our leaders in Washington? The question Ledeen doesn’t answer is: “Why do the political leaders not suffer from the same shortcomings and where do they obtain their monopoly on wisdom?”

Once this trust is placed in the hands of a powerful leader, this neocon argues that certain tools are permissible to use. For instance: “Lying is central to the survival of nations and to the success of great enterprises, because if our enemies can count on the reliability of everything you say, your vulnerability is enormously increased.” What about the effects of lying on one’s own people? Who cares if a leader can fool the enemy? Does calling it “strategic deception” make lying morally justifiable? Ledeen and Machiavelli argue that it does, as long as the survivability of the state is at stake. Preserving the state is their goal, even if the personal liberty of all individuals has to be suspended or canceled.

Ledeen makes it clear that war is necessary to establish national boundaries—because that’s the way it’s always been done. Who needs progress of the human race! He explains:

"Look at the map of the world: national boundaries have not been drawn by peaceful men leading lives of spiritual contemplation. National boundaries have been established by war, and national character has been shaped by struggle, most often bloody struggle."

Yes, but who is to lead the charge and decide which borders we are to fight for? What about borders 6,000 miles away unrelated to our own contiguous borders and our own national security? Stating a relative truism regarding the frequency of war throughout history should hardly be the moral justification for expanding the concept of war to settle man’s disputes. How can one call this progress?

Machiavelli, Ledeen and the neocons recognized a need to generate a religious zeal for promoting the state. This, he claims, is especially necessary when force is used to promote an agenda. It’s been true throughout history and remains true today, each side of major conflicts invokes God’s approval. Our side refers to a “crusade;” theirs to a “holy Jihad.” Too often wars boil down to their god against our God. It seems this principle is more a cynical effort to gain approval from the masses, especially those most likely to be killed for the sake of the war promoters on both sides who have power, prestige and wealth at stake.

Ledeen explains why God must always be on the side of advocates of war: “Without fear of God, no state can last long, for the dread of eternal damnation keeps men in line, causes them to honor their promises, and inspires them to risk their lives for the common good.” It seems dying for the common good has gained a higher moral status than eternal salvation of one’s soul. Ledeen adds:

"Without fear of punishment, men will not obey laws that force them to act contrary to their passions. Without fear of arms, the state cannot enforce the laws…to this end, Machiavelli wants leaders to make the state spectacular."

It’s of interest to note that some large Christian denominations have joined the neoconservatives in promoting preemptive war, while completely ignoring the Christian doctrine of a Just War. The neocons sought and openly welcomed their support.

I’d like someone to glean anything from what the Founders said or placed in the Constitution that agrees with this now-professed doctrine of a “spectacular” state promoted by those who now have so much influence on our policies here at home and abroad. Ledeen argues that this religious element, this fear of God, is needed for discipline of those who may be hesitant to sacrifice their lives for the good of the “spectacular state.”

He explains in eerie terms: “Dying for one’s country doesn’t come naturally. Modern armies, raised from the populace, must be inspired, motivated, indoctrinated. Religion is central to the military enterprise, for men are more likely to risk their lives if they believe they will be rewarded forever after for serving their country.” This is an admonition that might just as well have been given by Osama bin Laden, in rallying his troops to sacrifice their lives to kill the invading infidels, as by our intellectuals at the AEI, who greatly influence our foreign policy.

Neocons—anxious for the U.S. to use force to realign the boundaries and change regimes in the Middle East—clearly understand the benefit of a galvanizing and emotional event to rally the people to their cause. Without a special event, they realized the difficulty in selling their policy of preemptive war where our own military personnel would be killed. Whether it was the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin, or the Maine, all served their purpose in promoting a war that was sought by our leaders.

Ledeen writes of a fortuitous event (1999):

…of course, we can always get lucky. Stunning events from outside can providentially awaken the enterprise from its growing torpor, and demonstrate the need for reversal, as the devastating Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 so effectively aroused the U.S. from its soothing dreams of permanent neutrality.

Amazingly, Ledeen calls Pearl Harbor a “lucky” event. The Project for a New American Century, as recently as September 2000, likewise, foresaw the need for “a Pearl Harbor event” that would galvanize the American people to support their ambitious plans to ensure political and economic domination of the world, while strangling any potential “rival.”

Recognizing a “need” for a Pearl Harbor event, and referring to Pearl Harbor as being “lucky” are not identical to support and knowledge of such an event, but this sympathy for a galvanizing event, as 9-11 turned out to be, was used to promote an agenda that strict constitutionalists and devotees of the Founders of this nation find appalling is indeed disturbing. After 9-11, Rumsfeld and others argued for an immediate attack on Iraq, even though it was not implicated in the attacks.

The fact that neo-conservatives ridicule those who firmly believe that U.S. interests and world peace would best be served by a policy of neutrality and avoiding foreign entanglements should not go unchallenged. Not to do so is to condone their grandiose plans for American world hegemony.

The current attention given neocons is usually done in the context of foreign policy. But there’s more to what’s going on today than just the tremendous influence the neocons have on our new policy of preemptive war with a goal of empire. Our government is now being moved by several ideas that come together in what I call “neoconism.” The foreign policy is being openly debated, even if its implications are not fully understood by many who support it. Washington is now driven by old views brought together in a new package.

We know those who lead us—both in the administration and in Congress—show no appetite to challenge the tax or monetary systems that do so much damage to our economy. The IRS and the Federal Reserve are off limits for criticism or reform. There’s no resistance to spending, either domestic or foreign. Debt is not seen as a problem. The supply-siders won on this issue, and now many conservatives readily endorse deficit spending.

There’s no serious opposition to the expanding welfare state, with rapid growth of the education, agriculture and medical-care bureaucracy. Support for labor unions and protectionism are not uncommon. Civil liberties are easily sacrificed in the post 9-11 atmosphere prevailing in Washington. Privacy issues are of little concern, except for a few members of Congress. Foreign aid and internationalism—in spite of some healthy criticism of the UN and growing concerns for our national sovereignty—are championed on both sides of the aisle. Lip service is given to the free market and free trade, yet the entire economy is run by special-interest legislation favoring big business, big labor and, especially, big money.

Instead of the “end of history,” we are now experiencing the end of a vocal limited-government movement in our nation’s capital. While most conservatives no longer defend balanced budgets and reduced spending, most liberals have grown lazy in defending civil liberties and now are approving wars that we initiate. The so-called “third way” has arrived and, sadly, it has taken the worst of what the conservatives and liberals have to offer. The people are less well off for it, while liberty languishes as a result.

Neocons enthusiastically embrace the Department of Education and national testing. Both parties overwhelmingly support the huge commitment to a new prescription drug program. Their devotion to the new approach called “compassionate conservatism” has lured many conservatives into supporting programs for expanding the federal role in welfare and in church charities. The faith-based initiative is a neocon project, yet it only repackages and expands the liberal notion of welfare. The intellectuals who promoted these initiatives were neocons, but there’s nothing conservative about expanding the federal government’s role in welfare.

The supply-siders’ policy of low-marginal tax rates has been incorporated into neoconism, as well as their support for easy money and generous monetary inflation. Neoconservatives are disinterested in the gold standard and even ignore the supply-siders’ argument for a phony gold standard.

Is it any wonder that federal government spending is growing at a rate faster than in any time in the past 35 years?

Power, politics and privilege prevail over the rule of law, liberty, justice and peace. But it does not need to be that way. Neoconism has brought together many old ideas about how government should rule the people. It may have modernized its appeal and packaging, but authoritarian rule is authoritarian rule, regardless of the humanitarian overtones. A solution can only come after the current ideology driving our government policies is replaced with a more positive one. In a historical context, liberty is a modern idea and must once again regain the high moral ground for civilization to advance. Restating the old justifications for war, people control and a benevolent state will not suffice. It cannot eliminate the shortcomings that always occur when the state assumes authority over others and when the will of one nation is forced on another—whether or not it is done with good intentions.

I realize that all conservatives are not neoconservatives, and all neocons don’t necessarily agree on all points—which means that in spite of their tremendous influence, most Members of Congress and those in the administration do not necessarily take their marching orders from the AEI or Richard Perle. But to use this as a reason to ignore what neoconservative leaders believe, write about it and agitate for—with amazing success I might point out—would be at our own peril. This country still allows open discourse—though less everyday—and we who disagree should push the discussion and expose those who drive our policies. It is getting more difficult to get fair and balanced discussion on the issues, because it has become routine for the hegemons to label those who object to preemptive war and domestic surveillance as traitors, unpatriotic and un-American. The uniformity of support for our current foreign policy by major and cable-news networks should concern every American. We should all be thankful for CSPAN and the internet.

Michael Ledeen and other neoconservatives are already lobbying for war against Iran. Ledeen is pretty nasty to those who call for a calmer, reasoned approach by calling those who are not ready for war “cowards and appeasers of tyrants.” Because some urge a less militaristic approach to dealing with Iran, he claims they are betraying America’s best “traditions.” I wonder where he learned early American history! It’s obvious that Ledeen doesn’t consider the Founders and the Constitution part of our best traditions. We were hardly encouraged by the American revolutionaries to pursue an American empire. We were, however, urged to keep the Republic they so painstakingly designed.

If the neoconservatives retain control of the conservative, limited-government movement in Washington, the ideas, once championed by conservatives, of limiting the size and scope of government will be a long-forgotten dream.

The believers in liberty ought not deceive themselves. Who should be satisfied? Certainly not conservatives, for there is no conservative movement left. How could liberals be satisfied? They are pleased with the centralization of education and medical programs in Washington and support many of the administration’s proposals. But none should be pleased with the steady attack on the civil liberties of all American citizens and the now-accepted consensus that preemptive war—for almost any reason—is an acceptable policy for dealing with all the conflicts and problems of the world.

In spite of the deteriorating conditions in Washington—with loss of personal liberty, a weak economy, exploding deficits, and perpetual war, followed by nation building—there are still quite a number of us who would relish the opportunity to improve things, in one way or another. Certainly, a growing number of frustrated Americans, from both the right and the left, are getting anxious to see this Congress do a better job. But first, Congress must stop doing a bad job.

We’re at the point where we need a call to arms, both here in Washington and across the country. I’m not talking about firearms. Those of us who care need to raise both arms and face our palms out and begin waving and shouting: Stop! Enough is enough! It should include liberals, conservatives and independents. We’re all getting a bum rap from politicians who are pushed by polls and controlled by special-interest money.

One thing is certain, no matter how morally justified the programs and policies seem, the ability to finance all the guns and butter being promised is limited, and those limits are becoming more apparent every day.

Spending, borrowing and printing money cannot be the road to prosperity. It hasn’t worked in Japan, and it isn’t working here either. As a matter of fact, it’s never worked anytime throughout history. A point is always reached where government planning, spending and inflation run out of steam. Instead of these old tools reviving an economy, as they do in the early stages of economic interventionism, they eventually become the problem. Both sides of the political spectrum must one day realize that limitless government intrusion in the economy, in our personal lives and in the affairs of other nations cannot serve the best interests of America. This is not a conservative problem, nor is it a liberal problem—it’s a government intrusion problem that comes from both groups, albeit for different reasons. The problems emanate from both camps that champion different programs for different reasons. The solution will come when both groups realize that it’s not merely a single-party problem, or just a liberal or just a conservative problem.

Once enough of us decide we’ve had enough of all these so-called good things that the government is always promising—or more likely, when the country is broke and the government is unable to fulfill its promises to the people—we can start a serious discussion on the proper role for government in a free society. Unfortunately, it will be some time before Congress gets the message that the people are demanding true reform. This requires that those responsible for today’s problems are exposed and their philosophy of pervasive government intrusion is rejected.

Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy. A few have, and others will continue to do so, but too many—both in and out of government—close their eyes to the issue of personal liberty and ignore the fact that endless borrowing to finance endless demands cannot be sustained. True prosperity can only come from a healthy economy and sound money. That can only be achieved in a free society.

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By Cliff Kincaid - Jan 2, 2008

Many in the media are intrigued by Rep. Ron Paul's success in the presidential campaign but usually focus on how much money he is raising. In terms of issues, some think he is rising in the polls because of his opposition to the Iraq War. That may be a factor, but my research convinces me that he is doing well primarily because he has a traditional Republican message of returning to smaller and less expensive government. More than that, however, he is talking about the threat posed by global institutions.

The Secret of Ron Paul's Success

The media, which adore the U.N. and believe it is the last best hope of mankind, do not recognize the appeal of Ron Paul’s no-global-government message. Most reporters probably think it is rather silly. But it is becoming a major issue among the conservative Republican grassroots. It is so big that it could sink Senator John McCain, who is on record in support of U.S. participation in the U.N.’s notorious International Criminal Court (ICC).

The ICC could become a major issue, regardless of what happens in the presidential campaign, as the $6.4 billion left-wing MacArthur Foundation has indicated that it will spend tens or perhaps even hundreds of millions of dollars in a campaign to force U.S. acceptance of the ICC and “raise the profile of international justice issues during 2008.”

While the ICC looms as a major issue, conservative activists have been currently trying to defeat the U.N.’s Law of the Sea Treaty, which is now pending in the U.S. Senate. They found that Ron Paul had come out against it many years ago. He was way ahead of his time in confronting the dangers posed by international arrangements, treaties and institutions that sap U.S. sovereignty.

He introduced a bill to get us out of the U.N., which not only would have saved some of our sovereignty but billions of American tax dollars that ended up in the coffers of corrupt bureaucrats.

Mike Huckabee has tapped into conservative sentiment on this issue as well, such as when he told the “Values Voters” summit in Washington that he not only opposed the Law of the Sea Treaty but wanted to see federal judges impeached for using foreign law in their judicial decisions. The comments drew strong applause. After that speech, most of the Republican candidates started falling in line against the Law of the Sea Treaty. McCain, who once supported it, now suggested he was opposed but would have to study it.

Paul goes much further. His website includes an issues category labeled “American independence and Sovereignty.” Among other things, it declares, “So called free trade deals and world governmental organizations like the International Criminal Court (ICC), NAFTA, GATT, WTO, and CAFTA are a threat to our independence as a nation. They transfer power from our government to unelected foreign elites. The ICC wants to try our soldiers as war criminals. Both the WTO and CAFTA could force Americans to get a doctor’s prescription to take herbs and vitamins. Alternative treatments could be banned.”

Paul also denounces the U.N. for promoting a global tax on America, saying, “…if we are going to stop ongoing attempts of this world government body to tax us, we will need leadership from the White House.” Such a tax was proposed at the recent U.N. climate change conference, where the Bush Administration promised to help draft a new global warming treaty tougher and potentially more damaging to our economy than the first one that it rejected.

A fascinating article has just appeared in the San Francisco Chronicle on where the candidates stand on the U.N.’s International Criminal Court. In looking at Democrats and Republicans, it notes, “At one end of the spectrum is Mike Gravel, a former senator from Alaska and one of the Democrats who backs U.S. membership in the court. In a recent San Francisco appearance, he said he considers himself a ‘globalist’ and ‘a citizen of the human race, first and foremost. Only secondly do I consider myself an American.’ At the other end is Ron Paul, a Republican congressman from Texas, who said in 2002 that both the court and the United Nations ‘are inherently incompatible with national sovereignty. America must either remain a constitutional republic or submit to international law because it cannot do both.’”

“Unlike the rest of the Republican field,” reporter Bob Egelko said, “Sen. John McCain has said he would like to see the United States join the international court, although he would first require more protections for U.S. personnel.” The ICC would strip Americans of Bill of Rights protections if they were apprehended and put on trial for alleged international crimes. The article did not explain how McCain would change the institution, which is now in existence, in order to require those protections. Most of the rest of the world, led by the European Union, rejected any safeguards for U.S. citizens.

One of the most critical constitutional protections rejected by the ICC is trial by jury. Foreign judges preside over ICC cases. So it really cannot be “fixed” to accommodate American concerns.

The fact of McCain’s support for the anti-American ICC could prove fatal to his campaign, if it is widely publicized. It has gotten very little attention until now. However, I discovered a press release from the Citizens for Global Solutions (CGS) back in January of 2005 hailing McCain for his support of the ICC. While McCain was quoted as saying about the ICC, “I’m not satisfied that there are enough safeguards” for U.S. citizens, the CGS said that “his declaration at the World Economic Forum was the strongest indication to date that he would be in favor of the United States joining the ICC in the near future.”

One can understand why McCain wouldn’t want these comments publicized, as he seems to be gathering momentum in the presidential race, and why he wouldn’t want the CGS “endorsement” of his views given any publicity. The CGS is the new name of the World Federalist Association, a group that openly favors world government financed by global taxes. Democratic Party presidential candidate Hillary Clinton endorsed the group’s activities when she was First Lady.

That was on the occasion of the organization giving former CBS Evening News anchorman Walter Cronkite its global governance award. Cronkite used the event to promote the Law of the Sea Treaty, the International Criminal Court, and several other U.N.-backed measures.

It is interesting to note that Cronkite’s agenda is the same as that of Hillary and most national Democratic candidates. Will any of the national Republican presidential candidates other than Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee make a big issue out of it? By doing so, they will have to endure the ridicule of the national press. But it could help them capture the White House in the end.

Cliff Kincaid is the Editor of Accuracy in Media.

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I am trying to have an intelligent conversation about Ron Paul and his proposals, you have to stop spamming this thread with pasted stories and start explaining his vision.

Why do you think that getting rid of the income tax and applying a national sales tax is a good idea.

This will esentialy increase the tax on the poor and retired while reducing the tax on the rich.

Why does that make sense to Ron?
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