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Old 11-10-2008, 09:28 PM
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People like out of the box suggest that they(Out of the boxers) think from a higher point of understanding. He/they really is/are out of the circle.

Some edges need trimming.
The chosen will call it a cleansing. The out of the boxers will call it hell.

Judge ye not the Jews. They own your shoe shine ass.

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BA...stfu. You sold your soul . You are a puppet.
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Hey...where is the post where we argued over 'Hey little girl"?
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Old 11-12-2008, 02:12 AM
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Zionism is merely secular judaism. Both Judaic religion and zionist ideology have the same supremacist and parasitic nature.
No they don't.
Yes they do. The following books are written from the Christian perspective and are among the most interesting critical writings on Orthodox Judaism. You should most definitely read them.

- Johann Andreas Eisenmenger - The Traditions of...Johann Andreas Eisenmenger - The Traditions of... : Stehelin's 872 pages of selected English translation (first print in 1748) of Eisenmenger's 2001 pages thick work "Entdecktes Judenthum" (first print in 1701). The orriginal Eisenmenger book and its early reprints have been kept in rabbinical libraries as their own secret source of authentic Jewish beliefs. Nevertheless, both Eisenmenger's orriginal and Stehelin's translation are among the rarest books ever printed due to heavy censorship in the 18th century. The version currently sold at Amazon is the first reprint in more than two centuries.

- Michael Hoffman - Judaism Discovered: A Study of...Michael Hoffman - Judaism Discovered: A Study of... : a 1102 pages thick modern examination of Jewish scripture. Like Eisenmenger, Hoffman deconstructed the rabbinic texts line by line and came to similar conclusions.

I can also highly recommend Kevin MacDonald's infamous trilogy (A People That Shall Dwell AloneA People That Shall Dwell Alone , Separation and Its DiscontentsSeparation and Its Discontents , The Culture of CritiqueThe Culture of Critique ). These books give a scientific analysis of Jewish behavior throughout history and illustrate wonderfully how the supremacist attitude commonly attributed to zionists is not limited to zionists but prevalent in all Jewish sub-cultures. You find it among liberal Jews, communist Jews, orthodox Jews, etc.

Let's also not forget about Israel Shahak (Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of...Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of... ).....

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Old 11-12-2008, 10:09 AM
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Out of the box: You said:
"supremacist attitude commonly attributed to zionists is not limited to zionists but prevalent in all Jewish sub-cultures. You find it among liberal Jews, communist Jews, orthodox Jews, etc." end quote.
Don't Christians have the same supremacist attitude in that Christ is the only road to redemtion? Jesus claimed he was a Jew, so do you rationalize that all religion is a Jewish subculture? Muslims and Christians both believe in the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, so is this all not just opinionated suggestion from a line of interpretations that can be molded to fit any theory as to what the truth really is. Is not the truth for the beholder of such faiths to interpret from thier own hearts?
Judging Zionist,etc to be the leaders of the world is false.
Maybe they just prepare the way for a stranger to come along and open the minds of all, toward a better rational.
This basically is a conspiracy in that anyone can be sentenced in the minds of others due to lack of insight and personal conviction.
I do know that Christians believe in salvation, and that the TRUE CHRISTIANS keep silent on such topic since they do believe in Christs words. 'Judge ye not, for that is how you shall be juged.
Christ must have known that the JEWS would not tollerate such BS, thus they would accept the self judging attitude of CRUSADERS as nothing more than criminal and blasphemous toward God the Father.

Jews are the chosen family that will reside in paradise.
The truth is cpmpletely alien to even them. Remeber:
It is a messiah that is to set the record straight. Non christians simply believe that this is a false messiah, but that the hopes of the times were great...thus Christians were decieved by their own hearts.
Jews are the Children (family of god), no doubt about it.
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:16 AM
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We are yet to see the true messiah. MAny will call him the anti-christ since he will not absorb the Christain view.
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:30 PM
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Jesus was not the messiah(never saw him), and some ex slut aint the way either.
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Old 11-14-2008, 04:29 AM
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Out of the box: You said:
"supremacist attitude commonly attributed to zionists is not limited to zionists but prevalent in all Jewish sub-cultures. You find it among liberal Jews, communist Jews, orthodox Jews, etc." end quote.
Don't Christians have the same supremacist attitude in that Christ is the only road to redemtion?
The Jewish supremacist attitude is essentially racist. They believe they are physically, mentally and spiritually superior as an ethnic group. Christianity does not imply the idea that one ethnic group is better than the other but merely that their religion is the only true religion.

Having said that, I also object to Christian intolerance of other religions.

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Jesus claimed he was a Jew, so do you rationalize that all religion is a Jewish subculture? Muslims and Christians both believe in the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, so is this all not just opinionated suggestion from a line of interpretations that can be molded to fit any theory as to what the truth really is.
Not all religions are Jewish of origin, but Judaism, Christianity and Islam are. I object to each of them and don't see how either has anything to do with a healthy spiritual attitude towards life. Yet Hinduism, Shintoism, Asatru, Buddhism, Shamanism and other ancient Eurasian religions do provide a healthy spiritual outlook on life and are largely or entirely free from the dangerous fallacies that corrupted Abrahamic religions.

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Is not the truth for the beholder of such faiths to interpret from thier own hearts?
If you like to believe in fairy tales. I prefer not to indulge in the irrational ramblings of an ancient hatemonger but rather stick to the rational philosophy of eg. the Bhagavad-Gita (ancient Hindu scripture), the Eddas (ancient Germanic scripture), the Buddha, Kant, Heidegger, ...

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Judging Zionist,etc to be the leaders of the world is false.
They don't run the world. They merely run North-America and Western-Europe. Although they do have significant power in other parts of the world, they are not powerful enough to actually control those nations.

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Maybe they just prepare the way for a stranger to come along and open the minds of all, toward a better rational.
You're funny.

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Jews are the chosen family that will reside in paradise.
The truth is cpmpletely alien to even them. Remeber:
It is a messiah that is to set the record straight. Non christians simply believe that this is a false messiah, but that the hopes of the times were great...thus Christians were decieved by their own hearts.
Jews are the Children (family of god), no doubt about it.
I don't understand how anyone can honestly believe that rubbish.

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Here's what secular Judiasm and Zionism have in common:

Many Jewish Israelis feel that being Israeli (living among Jews, speaking Hebrew, in the Land of Israel), is in itself a sufficient expression of Judaism without any religious observances. This conforms to some classical secular-Zionist ideologies of Israeli-style civil religion.
That's because Judaism is not really a religion but rather a way of life. Jews try to life a life they see as most suitable to serve themselves and the Jewish community as a whole. Some believe that way is Chassidic Judaism and live an Orthodox life, whereas others become zionists, communists or liberals. Serving the Jewish people is what Judaism all about... and a significant part of these people don't give a damn about us gentiles as long as their Jewish brethren are fine.... which happens to be the main cause of antisemitism.
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:13 AM
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The point being that secular Judaism is not the same as Zionism.
I'm not saying that all secular Jews are zionists and that all zionists are secular Jews. I'm merely stating that zionism as an ideology is a secular equivalent of Judaism.
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