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Old 11-14-2008, 05:29 AM
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Out of the box: You said:
"supremacist attitude commonly attributed to zionists is not limited to zionists but prevalent in all Jewish sub-cultures. You find it among liberal Jews, communist Jews, orthodox Jews, etc." end quote.
Don't Christians have the same supremacist attitude in that Christ is the only road to redemtion?
The Jewish supremacist attitude is essentially racist. They believe they are physically, mentally and spiritually superior as an ethnic group. Christianity does not imply the idea that one ethnic group is better than the other but merely that their religion is the only true religion.

Having said that, I also object to Christian intolerance of other religions.

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Jesus claimed he was a Jew, so do you rationalize that all religion is a Jewish subculture? Muslims and Christians both believe in the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, so is this all not just opinionated suggestion from a line of interpretations that can be molded to fit any theory as to what the truth really is.
Not all religions are Jewish of origin, but Judaism, Christianity and Islam are. I object to each of them and don't see how either has anything to do with a healthy spiritual attitude towards life. Yet Hinduism, Shintoism, Asatru, Buddhism, Shamanism and other ancient Eurasian religions do provide a healthy spiritual outlook on life and are largely or entirely free from the dangerous fallacies that corrupted Abrahamic religions.

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Is not the truth for the beholder of such faiths to interpret from thier own hearts?
If you like to believe in fairy tales. I prefer not to indulge in the irrational ramblings of an ancient hatemonger but rather stick to the rational philosophy of eg. the Bhagavad-Gita (ancient Hindu scripture), the Eddas (ancient Germanic scripture), the Buddha, Kant, Heidegger, ...

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Judging Zionist,etc to be the leaders of the world is false.
They don't run the world. They merely run North-America and Western-Europe. Although they do have significant power in other parts of the world, they are not powerful enough to actually control those nations.

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Maybe they just prepare the way for a stranger to come along and open the minds of all, toward a better rational.
You're funny.

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Jews are the chosen family that will reside in paradise.
The truth is cpmpletely alien to even them. Remeber:
It is a messiah that is to set the record straight. Non christians simply believe that this is a false messiah, but that the hopes of the times were great...thus Christians were decieved by their own hearts.
Jews are the Children (family of god), no doubt about it.
I don't understand how anyone can honestly believe that rubbish.

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Here's what secular Judiasm and Zionism have in common:

Many Jewish Israelis feel that being Israeli (living among Jews, speaking Hebrew, in the Land of Israel), is in itself a sufficient expression of Judaism without any religious observances. This conforms to some classical secular-Zionist ideologies of Israeli-style civil religion.
That's because Judaism is not really a religion but rather a way of life. Jews try to life a life they see as most suitable to serve themselves and the Jewish community as a whole. Some believe that way is Chassidic Judaism and live an Orthodox life, whereas others become zionists, communists or liberals. Serving the Jewish people is what Judaism all about... and a significant part of these people don't give a damn about us gentiles as long as their Jewish brethren are fine.... which happens to be the main cause of antisemitism.

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Old 11-14-2008, 11:08 AM
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The point being that secular Judaism is not the same as Zionism.
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:13 AM
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The point being that secular Judaism is not the same as Zionism.
I'm not saying that all secular Jews are zionists and that all zionists are secular Jews. I'm merely stating that zionism as an ideology is a secular equivalent of Judaism.
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:37 PM
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I'm not saying that all secular Jews are zionists and that all zionists are secular Jews. I'm merely stating that zionism as an ideology is a secular equivalent of Judaism.
Now that I've proven you wrong, you're saying that.

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Old 11-18-2008, 12:49 AM
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Laughing till my heart stops....
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Old 11-18-2008, 04:12 AM
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Now that I've proven you wrong, you're saying that.
I never claimed otherwise. Stop putting words in my mouth.
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:09 PM
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I never claimed otherwise. Stop putting words in my mouth.
Yes you did.

Another contradiction?
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:50 AM
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Sic him girl.
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:52 PM
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Sic him girl.
Oh, boy.

Yeah.

I really blasted him, didn't I?

I think "sic him" is more appropriately used as a command for a dog and that I am not.
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:23 AM
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Why do they say it?
Because they are wrong. - It's like saying we never went to the moon because the flag was flapping.
Well, it's easier to believe than Reptilians...
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