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Old 11-28-2005, 10:18 PM
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Default A Comment From John In Hungary To Henry Makow.


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The question of what can be done by all of us to resist the Illuminati agenda is very important but I would like to tell you something I believe to be even more important: there are serious clues showing that the Illuminati agenda is in serious trouble.

In the year 2005, the Illuminati House is starting to crumble in America.

The Americans' opposition to the Irak war is spreading to the military, intelligence and political circles. The necessity of ending this unjust war begins to be generally admitted while the warmongering propaganda of the neo-cons is losing credibility. As the authorised version of the 9/11 "terrorist attack" is progressively discredited, even the "war against terrorism" dogma is disintegrating.

As a miraculous Christmas gift to the American people, the hidden infectious agents of the international "money masters" are pointed out and indicted, one by one, by a resurrecting national immune system.

Through the Iraki experience, the Anglo-Saxon ruling class has now the means to understand that the elitist Roman empire cannot be resurrected. As a probable result of this understanding, the cancelling of the wars in the Middle East will prevent the "money masters" from staging a world war to resurrect a planetary luciferian Babylon through the mutual destruction of China, Russia and America.

Here comes Vladimir Putin. As an alternative to a suicidal war, he is offering to America and Iran an honorable way to reconcile.

If this is accepted, the USA will have no more reason to occupy Irak as a strategical position in a war against Iran. Of course, this wouldn't give the control of the Iranian oil to the USA but it would avoid the risks of a new world war between America and a Chinese-Iranian-Russian coalition. The Anglo-Saxon "elites" certainly know that they could lose everything in a new world war, contrary to the "money masters" who could barricade themselves in a "neutral" European Union. Russia is also offering to Israel a viable alternative to the since long projected pipeline Mosoul-Haifa.

The Israeli leaders certainly understand that America may well stop doing the dirty job for them in the Middle East and that the dream of a "Greater Israel" is therefore broken. Is it the reason why Sharon quits a Likud which is unable to adapt to the new realities?

Yes, indeed, the Illuminati House is starting to crumble in America. But... besides political assassinations and/or a new 9/11, the last decisive card the luciferian "money masters" can still play is the manipulation of the next American presidential elections. If they can put their own creature in the White House, they still be able to trigger their agended Armageddon. Pulling also the strings of feminism, this creature could well have the seductive face of a famous politician woman... The devil, the woman and the man, will a very old story replay soon?
I beg to disagree. I might add I respect JOHNS opinion but there are several flaws.

1. Who says the "Illuminati House" is 'crumbling in America? It is clear, Bush and the power that he represents is a front/patsy for the Globalists to usher in the benevolent rulership of the so called "left".

After the "nationalist" Bush has PROVEN the danger of Unilateral Imperial Power and religious fundamentalism we shall see Hillary bring the level headed secular/humanist face of the dictatorship of "reason" with a reinvigorated and morally high grounded U.N behind her.

Have we "fascists" finally learned our lesson yet? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mark my words. Not a SINGLE bit of the Police State apparatus will be removed by the "nice" Liberals. NOT ONE PEICE! Of course it's not their fault and with the so called "neo-cons" having stirred up so much hatred it must be left in place. ;-)

Look, "they" are not stupid. "They" are playing the old P-R-S game again.

The European and American and Russian and Israeli and Australian and Canadian Elite are ONE! They may disagree but they ALL agree on ONE binding issue - the peasants must be brought to heel. All the so called name calling is PURE theater to keep the nationalistic tensions happening and the local peasants distracted and marching on the 'enemy' and not to the Palace Gates.

I have no doubt the middle managers argue and disagree. But the people that matter are ONE! They are "Illumed" and beyond borders and beyond silly tradition and petty argument. They are out to "manage" the planet and it's resources.

If Bush was smart and managed to somehow bring M.E leaders to the table by force of arms, much like Gadaffi, then where would be the excuse for Israel to start the process of taking over said M.E?

The more chaos and wanton destruction the better for the Globalists. The better for the extremists in Israel. What better way to justify your war of Babylonian conquest than to foster "anti-semitism" throughout the world and then to foster as much hatred to you by your neighbours and then with the shout of "never again the Holocaust" unleash your nuclear arsenal?

Ten years later the radiation has dropped and it's all yours baby with the added bonus of the U.N being invigorated and of course those NASTY fascists rounded up.

OMG! I hit the trifecta!

To be continued...

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Old 11-28-2005, 10:21 PM
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we're in for a ride. there's nothing we can do but pray to Jesus. :-P
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:23 PM
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Yeh THUMPER, but i'm shouting ALL the way down!

I pray and then I get angry and then I post and then I feel better. :-P

Besides, i'm worjking onb my script and need someone who is REAL good at structure and the laying out of English grammar inparticular. Know anyone?

I am an "ideas" man and think in pictures. I cannot write for shit and find when my Hollywood masterpeice needs to be written I go blank. Again, know anyone who can write well? :-P

BTW...how is "Raincouver"? My ex is their. Working in one of the main hospitals emergency departments. Say high to Fiona for me if ya break a leg!
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:36 PM
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tb,
as an engineer with a photographic memory, and the regular retreating into my own head to visualise a new concept, build, it, and spin it..then shout "bullshit" at the appropriate "authority, I feel your pain.

I've got a really good idea for a book...I can play it in my head...would look great.

Can I write it ?

Only in the "scientific method"
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Old 11-29-2005, 03:29 AM
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There is no doubt that much of the reason this forum exists is for keeping the sanity of our minds and making us feel a little less lonely...even if doesn't accomplish anything more, that's something. :-?
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Old 11-29-2005, 03:39 AM
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There is no doubt that much of the reason this forum exists is for keeping the sanity of our minds and making us feel a little less lonely...even if doesn't accomplish anything more, that's something. :-?
So true 8-)
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Old 11-29-2005, 03:48 AM
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Just to confirm a certain point of the original post,

Is this chap saying the Putin is offering a solution to the war, that will prevent the "NWO"'s plan for a third world war, or the US Prez plans to control the oil etc.

To stop the Bonesman, influencial as a "33rd thinging, from getting his way.

( if we can leave the thinging bit out, as I have agreed with Henry, not to discuss it)


Also, if you do want someone to help with the compilation of books, I can do it. Copyright, proof read, and technical writing is among a few of the many things I get up to in my dreary life.
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:37 AM
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tb,
as an engineer with a photographic memory, and the regular retreating into my own head to visualise a new concept, build, it, and spin it..then shout "bullshit" at the appropriate "authority, I feel your pain.

I've got a really good idea for a book...I can play it in my head...would look great.

Can I write it ?

Only in the "scientific method"
Yeh, theres one good book in all of us.

I prefer scripts as I can visualise the camera etc...

It's very interesting, peoples learning styles. I need the "big picture" first and then i fill in the gaps. I am not a "wrote learner". I need to know the goal and then the pieces join one by one.

Shame the idiot education system cant get it.

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Is this chap saying the Putin is offering a solution to the war, that will prevent the "NWO"'s plan for a third world war, or the US Prez plans to control the oil etc.
Appears so. People seem to believe that Putin and Co are onto the Zionist Oligarchs and has sent a few packing back to Israel.

I dont buy it.

I have no privelidged access into the minds of these people but the internet and the growing anti-globalist movement has gathered such strength that surely our Elite masters are having a rethink with appropriate theater?

The key, if "they" are to pull off a decisive war of terror that will finally push people into the arms of one world government, is a "high moral ground".

I'm just wondering which of these "fractured" elements of the NWO and their view of it, has any "moral ground" to stand on these days? After all, the internet inparticular is PACKED with info and sites like Rense are near the TOP of the most visited sites. Can they pull it off?

My problems are many and maybe thats because it is'nt so simple?

Is not the Bush family FAMED for their lackey status to the U.S arm of the European Banking Houses? Have they "revolted"?

So many questions, so little time.

Also, the notion that the U.S can invade ANYONE at this time has me SO pissed off! Time and again we hear of the U.S about to "invade" Iran or Syria or who ever. The U.S had had NO capacity to invade ANYONE since they set foot in Iraq. It is logistically impossible and yet TIME and AGAIN it is repeated adinfunatim on websites. Why push this? Stan Goff is the ONLY commentator I have read who has consistently debunked this.

If anything will happen it will be tactical nukes and airpower.

From the day Georgy Porgy got in he has been behaving in a way GAURANTEED to constellate the Left and smooth the way not for a "fascist" but "benevolent socialist" government with the police state powers of a hard core Commie one. Of course they ar'nt responsible for that...that "fascist" neo-con element is...they'll just keep it.

Also, explain to me Colin Powel? Helped the setup and jumped ship. His work was done...Blue Hat internationalist to the core. And Wolfowitz? Off he went too, straight to the World Bank...thanx for coming. And who's left sucking his thumb with his hand in the cookie jar?

Whatever the final road map...cant wait till it's over coz the suspense is killing me.

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Also, if you do want someone to help with the compilation of books, I can do it. Copyright, proof read, and technical writing is among a few of the many things I get up to in my dreary life.
Hmmmm...no kinky stuff mind you:-x Do I get to keep my soul :-P

Will get back.

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( if we can leave the thinging bit out, as I have agreed with Henry, not to discuss it)
Huh?
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:48 AM
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Appears so. People seem to believe that Putin and Co are onto the Zionist Oligarchs and has sent a few packing back to Israel.
The reason I ask is that a source a little closer, a russian site dedicated to the iraq war, seems to feel the Putin is 33rd also.

The link is for points to research and I do not pertain as to the truth or factual representation of the information on the site. I would hope that some of the contents is not gonna end being slung back at me in other threads!

Putin Himself is a 33rd Degree Freemason,The same as George Bush and Many Others.

http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/49019

The validity of skeptical just from this sentence as Bush is not 33rd, or even a ......

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( if we can leave the thinging bit out, as I have agreed with Henry, not to discuss it)
Huh?
I agreed with henry I would not discuss Freemasonry, or post in the Freemasonry section.
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:54 AM
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I agreed with henry I would not discuss Freemasonry, or post in the Freemasonry section.
Double huh?

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The reason I ask is that a source a little closer, a russian site dedicated to the iraq war, seems to feel the Putin is 33rd also.
I dont trust Putin.

I dont trust that site either.

I'm going for a souvlaki.
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