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Old 10-18-2008, 08:54 PM
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Well after further examination of this rebuttal to TVP....it seems that it doesn't accuartely describe what TVP is all about. It seems to have sorely missed the point. Same w/the clip that you presented in response to Zeitgeist...which was nothing more than a religious rebuttal that did not even speak to Zeitgeist at all.

& after a further exam of your history I think I now have a pretty good idea as to your M.O. & don't get me wrong....I am not being judgemental whatsoever. Whatever floats your boat as the saying goes.

Labeling Zeitgeist a hoax is quite interesting.....do you mean to say that much of what has recently occured in the finance mrkts is all in our imagination? If not, what do you say w/re to the fact that Zeitgeist spoke to this in advance....& now much of it is coming to fruition. A hoax....I dont think that's the right word.

At any rate....I hope any further discussion of either topics do not threaten you.....they are only presented w/the hopes to inform & perhaps spur discussions towards options in improving society as we know it. You may not be in agreement but I do feel we've been on the wrong path for quite sometime...& on many levels.

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uote=Anastasis;52322]you find this informative and may read it already but, i'll print it here again about the venus project a subject studied for several years now.[/quote]

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Old 10-19-2008, 10:23 AM
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Anastasis,

I wanted you to know that I have also done some more digging on the site for which you copy & pasted from (pointbite). I of course read the entire opinionated summury that you passed along.....my question to you is, did you also happen to read all the comments contained w/in that thread....or did you just read what you copy & pasted?

The reason of course I ask is b/c there was some very good/insightful replies to that piece you had copy & pasted....some very good rebuttals were made to that end....comments for which I was elluding to in my reply to you from last night. Seems much of the commentary from that article you sited is flawed since it doesn't accurately go forward w/the the proper premise of it all. It twists the entire idea so that the argument presented against it sounds more plausable.

At one point someone commented that it sounds as if some folks are threatened by these ideas.....for which I have a very difficult time comprehending....after all, why would someone feel so thretened by ideas which are cretaed to improve society as we know it?

Having said this, to this end I would ask this of those who are either threatened by these ideas or simply just disagree w/em one simple question, if these ideas do not seem plausable & or flawed, by all means, pls tell us what are some of your thoughts & suggs along these lines....the imporvement of life as we know it? it's fine to have your own opinions of course & I aint even asking you to justify your opinions....you shouldn't have to.....BUT, I would challenge you & anyone else to help come up w/other ideas, or even expand upon some of these ideals that have already been suggested.

After all, it's a constant process & collectively, we all should feel a part of this progression.....of course only if this is something that is of interest to you.

I thank you again for your thoughts & comments along these lines & look forward to your further input should you desire.

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hi raiderdad. pleasant to meet you so much. we having discussions last year as i recall that about the zeitgeist film, nevertheless and howeversomuch, you may walk the following critique with an open mind to find truth about the zeitgeist hoax.

<EMBED id=VideoPlayback style="WIDTH: 400px; HEIGHT: 326px" src=http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=7572663630528394775&hl=en&f s=true type=application/x-shockwave-flash allowScriptAccess="always" allowFullScreen="true"> </EMBED>
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:21 PM
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hi, i wasn't sure which points you were referring to. it might be easier if you simply ask me specific questions about zeitgeist film and i'll answer them more adequately, if i am able, and i am able, very able. please, do ask.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:57 PM
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Not sure where to begin?

We could start w/the Fed..then go to religion..or how about the real reason behind war?

I guess I should ask you.....why do you think it is a hoax? the links you provided did not speak to Zeitgeist being a hoax. All the link did was come off as if Zetigeist was some sorta threat to the beliefs of others...not sure why b/c it gave many very compelling facts in support of its' main argument which is, the powers that be are there to keep the masses suppressed...as is the case w/religion.

Have you yourself watched Zetigeist yet or have you only read the critiques?

Lastly, you did not answer any of my questions....if that was intentional then in your next reply there's no need to answer them if for some reason you do not feel comfortable in adressing them.
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:44 AM
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I coulda sworn there was a reply from Anastis but now for some reason I can not locate it? Did it perhaps get taken down for some reason? I was planning on replying to it today but now it seems to be gone....or perhaps it's burried somewhere's else? Still tryin to get used to these type of threads....I find them kinda hard to have to look up stuff....too many threads....oh well.....what ya gonna do?

Anyhow....if u r still out there Anastis.....I'll simply repeat....pls tell me what aspects of Zetigeist do you feel are/is a hoax?

it doesn't need to be any specific part...but if you could pls tell me exactly why you feel there's no validity to it I'd appreciate it....always tring to understand where others are coming from...& then have a healthy debate....if possible.

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Old 10-23-2008, 11:07 AM
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Sorry Raiderdad, Anastasis was actually a duplicate account from somone who had been banned for a few weeks from this site.

So, you aren't going crazy, I just deleted the posts because Leonardo/George_Bush/Abe_Lincoln/Anastasis/LordRotchild/etc are not supposed to be posting right now.
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Old 10-23-2008, 11:49 AM
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OK.....so Leo (the embeeded music poster if I recall) & Anastis are the same poster.....good ta know thx.

& since we're on the subject...here's my 2 cents (& not that it really matters mind you).....if embedding music really is that big a deal...at least to where someone gets banned..for whatever amt of time, perhaps there should either be a choice given to where if a poster so chooses, they can select to not have a music clip played at all...or simply not make this a forum option in the 1st place.

If the option is removed all together, the issue is moot.....however if the option is there & it bothers someone, they should at least have the option to not hear the clips....otherwise, I have to say, I am not in favor of banning someone simply b/c it bothers someone else. Crossing a slippery slope here w/the free speech thing....& after all, isn't free speech something for which those on a conspriacy thread should be coveting?....most especially on a thread such as this. I found that a disturbing move & one for which I would not have epxected from a sight such as this.

OK....that's my peace on the matter fwiw.
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Old 10-23-2008, 06:22 PM
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oh the tangled webs we weave....I suppose it all depends on how you inerpret the symantics.....bottom line...what happened was a form of censorship....& seemingly b/c only 1 poster had an issue w/it....& if memory serves...wasn't that you? Dont recall exactly...but the mere fact that you replied to this post of mine that was directed @ the MOD kinda tells me it was you.

Which then leads to another ?......are you the MOD who I replied to?

Hmmmmmm
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Lol Raiderdad, I have no problem with anyone posting music. I have a problem with A) him picking an embeddable player that just started playing when the thread was opened and B) him just embedding the songs without a player, so only a mod or an admin could stop them from playing.

Believe me, you do not have to talk to me about freespeech. I get many emails and pms from people here complaining about what other members say within the confines of this community. I have only banned one person since I've been here, and no it wasn't a form of censorship, it was Leonardo trolling the forums and stirring up trouble after he'd been asked nicely to cut it out.
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:11 PM
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OK then...so u r the MOD & not BA I take it?

Jus tryin ta get all the playah's straight here...lol

I wonder tho why is it that people dont have the kahoonas to simply speak their mind as oppsoed to going to the "Principal" behind their back like lil school kids? Why not simply voice your opinion as I did in a non-confrontational & democratic way?

From an outside perspective (as this seemed to all be goin down right as I had joined) it just all seemed kinda elementary & something that was being blown out of porportion...after all, banning someone for such an action that wasn't really doin any harm...speakers can be turned down can't they? +....is there really anyone here posting from the library? Well maybe I guess so as folks can be paranoid about posting on such a forum so I suppose they wanna be as anonymous as possible....I guess ya never know if big bro is makin a list & checkin it twice lol At any rate....do library computers have speakers anyway? lol

Lastly, w/re to banning....I would think that an action like that should be put up to a vote & if less than 3 or 4 folks chime in.....it should be considered a non issue..that is if this place works democraticly?

Whatever....& as I said it's jus my 2 cents on the matter & thus I'm done speakin my mind on the topic.

& if u r out there Leo....I'll bring ya cake on visiting day....lol

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