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Old 10-23-2008, 09:44 AM
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I coulda sworn there was a reply from Anastis but now for some reason I can not locate it? Did it perhaps get taken down for some reason? I was planning on replying to it today but now it seems to be gone....or perhaps it's burried somewhere's else? Still tryin to get used to these type of threads....I find them kinda hard to have to look up stuff....too many threads....oh well.....what ya gonna do?

Anyhow....if u r still out there Anastis.....I'll simply repeat....pls tell me what aspects of Zetigeist do you feel are/is a hoax?

it doesn't need to be any specific part...but if you could pls tell me exactly why you feel there's no validity to it I'd appreciate it....always tring to understand where others are coming from...& then have a healthy debate....if possible.

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Old 10-23-2008, 11:07 AM
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Sorry Raiderdad, Anastasis was actually a duplicate account from somone who had been banned for a few weeks from this site.

So, you aren't going crazy, I just deleted the posts because Leonardo/George_Bush/Abe_Lincoln/Anastasis/LordRotchild/etc are not supposed to be posting right now.
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Old 10-23-2008, 11:49 AM
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OK.....so Leo (the embeeded music poster if I recall) & Anastis are the same poster.....good ta know thx.

& since we're on the subject...here's my 2 cents (& not that it really matters mind you).....if embedding music really is that big a deal...at least to where someone gets banned..for whatever amt of time, perhaps there should either be a choice given to where if a poster so chooses, they can select to not have a music clip played at all...or simply not make this a forum option in the 1st place.

If the option is removed all together, the issue is moot.....however if the option is there & it bothers someone, they should at least have the option to not hear the clips....otherwise, I have to say, I am not in favor of banning someone simply b/c it bothers someone else. Crossing a slippery slope here w/the free speech thing....& after all, isn't free speech something for which those on a conspriacy thread should be coveting?....most especially on a thread such as this. I found that a disturbing move & one for which I would not have epxected from a sight such as this.

OK....that's my peace on the matter fwiw.
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Old 10-23-2008, 05:14 PM
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IMO, it has nothing to do with FREE SPEECH.

It has to do with rudeness.

Like I said, if you're in a library and someone is blasting their radio, they're asked to turn it off in politeness to the others and, if they refuse, they are asked to leave for disturbing the peace.

Such a simple solution.

Post music videos that provide the members and onlookers of this forum the option to either listen and/or not listen.

Something called freedom of choice.

That still does exist, doesn't it?

I'm all for Freedom of Speech, but he wasn't speaking.

He was posting embedded music videos.

Sure, we can turn off the volume on our computer, but why should we be forced to accommodate rudeness?

Seems to me that when we go to great lengths to protect FREEDOM of SPEECH at all costs, it infringes on our right to Freedom of Choice.

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Old 10-23-2008, 06:22 PM
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oh the tangled webs we weave....I suppose it all depends on how you inerpret the symantics.....bottom line...what happened was a form of censorship....& seemingly b/c only 1 poster had an issue w/it....& if memory serves...wasn't that you? Dont recall exactly...but the mere fact that you replied to this post of mine that was directed @ the MOD kinda tells me it was you.

Which then leads to another ?......are you the MOD who I replied to?

Hmmmmmm
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Old 10-23-2008, 08:54 PM
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Lol Raiderdad, I have no problem with anyone posting music. I have a problem with A) him picking an embeddable player that just started playing when the thread was opened and B) him just embedding the songs without a player, so only a mod or an admin could stop them from playing.

Believe me, you do not have to talk to me about freespeech. I get many emails and pms from people here complaining about what other members say within the confines of this community. I have only banned one person since I've been here, and no it wasn't a form of censorship, it was Leonardo trolling the forums and stirring up trouble after he'd been asked nicely to cut it out.
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:11 PM
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OK then...so u r the MOD & not BA I take it?

Jus tryin ta get all the playah's straight here...lol

I wonder tho why is it that people dont have the kahoonas to simply speak their mind as oppsoed to going to the "Principal" behind their back like lil school kids? Why not simply voice your opinion as I did in a non-confrontational & democratic way?

From an outside perspective (as this seemed to all be goin down right as I had joined) it just all seemed kinda elementary & something that was being blown out of porportion...after all, banning someone for such an action that wasn't really doin any harm...speakers can be turned down can't they? +....is there really anyone here posting from the library? Well maybe I guess so as folks can be paranoid about posting on such a forum so I suppose they wanna be as anonymous as possible....I guess ya never know if big bro is makin a list & checkin it twice lol At any rate....do library computers have speakers anyway? lol

Lastly, w/re to banning....I would think that an action like that should be put up to a vote & if less than 3 or 4 folks chime in.....it should be considered a non issue..that is if this place works democraticly?

Whatever....& as I said it's jus my 2 cents on the matter & thus I'm done speakin my mind on the topic.

& if u r out there Leo....I'll bring ya cake on visiting day....lol

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Old 10-24-2008, 09:13 AM
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No, this is not a democracy and there will be no vote concerning banning.

As the admin of this site it is my job to keep this place running smoothly. Leonardo is a troll, most of the time he is entertaining, just dropping into threads to bait people, etc. When trolldom reaches the point where I can't open a thread without hear Iron Maiden blasting out of my speakers then it needs to be dealt with. He has been banned many times on this forum by mods and admins of the past, which probably is the reason that he has so many dupe accounts.
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:33 AM
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OK JG....thx for the info...good ta know this aint a democracy...I'll be sure ta mind my P's 'n Q's round here & try not ta stir things up...no guarantees tho

OK....back into formation b4 I get a checkmark next to my name...I never was a good conformist

Which I suppose is why I found this place

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Old 10-27-2008, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE=Raiderdad;52447]oh the tangled webs we weave....I suppose it all d[depends on how you inerpret the symantics.....bottom line...what happened was a form of censorship....& seemingly b/c only 1 poster had an issue w/it....& if memory serves...wasn't that you? Dont recall exactly...but the mere fact that you replied to this post of mine that was directed @ the MOD kinda tells me it was you.

Which then leads to another ?......are you the MOD who I replied to?

Hmmmmmm[/quote]

Who is weaving a tangled web?

Must be you because I'm not.

Seems to me that you desire this place to be as it was when under Makow's ownership.

If so, then you must delight in spending time in a looney bin.

I suppose since you're all for a forum without oversight, the disgusting pornographic pictures that were posted some time ago, would remain under your moderation.

Seems to me also that you're more concerned about Leonardo being banned than posting on the site.

Is that because you were conversing with him under his guise as Anastasia? or whatever the name was?

I openly placed a complaint regarding the music videos that Leonardo was posting.

I have never requested that anyone be banned and all of my complaints are made via this forum and not through PMs to JustGroovy, our moderator.

Furthermore, there have been others on this forum who have openly requested Leonardo be banned and I'm sure PMs sent as well.

Because I replied to one of your posts by stating my opinion regarding the banning of Leonardo, which, by the way, is perfectly acceptable, does not in any way, shape or form imply that I am a moderator.

You're all for free speech, but appear to be bent out of shape because I voiced my opinion on the matter.

Hypocritical, don't you think?

I would think you would have known that JustGroovy is the moderator.

It is rather obvious.

I mean, you inquired about a response from another poster being deleted and she replied to it under CG Administration.

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