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Old 05-14-2005, 10:58 PM
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Hi,

This is my first post here so... :-o

Another reported 'coincidence' that I haven't seen mentioned in this amazing thread, that I think holds a lot of significance is this:

"National Security Advisor Rice and White House spokesman Fleischer lied in saying that nobody had ever conceived of planes being used in this manner"

[http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=rice+nobody+had+ever+conceived+of+p lanes+being+used+in+this+manner]

Before the attack (on March 4th 2001), the pilot episode of 'The Lone Gunmen', a spin off of the hit series 'The X-Files' recreated the scenario of a hijacked commercial airliner being flown into one of the WTC towers by remote control. The episode was actually shown later in Australia, 4 days before 9/11.

What makes it even more creepy, is it's not some terrorist or lone nut doing it in the episode, quote from TvTome - "As the death is investigated, the Gunmen become more and more entangled in a terrorist plot (Scenario 12-D), eventually facing off against a governmental power known as Overlord"

[http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-38/epid-14827/]

Also, of interest, is that one of the shows stars - Dean Haglund, was interviewed by Alex Jones:

"Haglund stated that after years of writing the X-files, the FBI and NASA would approach Chris Carter with plots for stories."

[http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/january2005/120105haglund.htm]

Obviously it's just another one of those uncanny coincidences that it was made by Rupert Murdochs 'Fox', a man who has links with the people who leased and insured the WTC towers.

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Old 05-14-2005, 11:05 PM
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The Ghost Plane Theory – :-o :-o :-o

Boeing 767-222 As Melted Butter – Flash Animation (<Stop> & Use <FF> to “single step”)
“Notice how the “right wing” flows into the building w/o damage right after it is completely immersed into the building, & how after the entire plane disappears into the building, at that very moment, there is nothing but shadows & a couple of puffs of smoke…”
http://911hoax.com/gBoeingButter.asp?intPage=8&PageNum=8

truebeliever, Ok, after you link into the page, if for some reason the “flash presentation” doesn’t show up & you still have a black screen, hit the <Refresh> button on your IE browser & then hopefully the presentation should appear. Then, hit the <Prev Track> button, all the way left, & that should stop & rewind the clip. Then, by hitting the <Fast Forward> button (second from the right), start counting frames, until you have reached the 44th frame. By frame “37” you should see a flash from the tip of the plane. Continue to frame “44.” At that frame you should notice how the “right-wing” has completely disappeared into the building, (ghost like), & there is nothing, not even a shadow of a “ghost” on that outside wall. Remember also that even though you keep saying you saw it w/ your own eyes, the premise of this ”theory” is the fact that these ”frames were previously edited” & perhaps ”pre-mixed” w/ a footing of the building by some video technician, & then later broadcast on that day (911). So, what we saw “could have been completely fabricated, in a studio-lab, way in advance”. Also the ability to perform a ”live video mix real-time” along w/ the broadcast is a technology that already exists & is in use everyday by the studios.
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Old 05-15-2005, 12:06 AM
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The Peak Oil Scam – :-o :-o :-o

Re: The end of oil is closer than you think ??? Think Again !!! – Post #9
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1216&forum=23&post_id=10373
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Old 05-15-2005, 12:34 AM
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Thanx JIMBO...i enjoy a good debate.

I use Mozilla Firefox by the way and I have to say without equivocation it 'pisses' all over Explorer.

Loads at 3 times the speed most times as well.

I've been using it for 2 years and love it. After all that! I had to use Exploreer to view the Flash Animation.

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First off, raise your hands if you've ever seen a Boeing 767 fly into a large steel structure?..none...o.k...read a report with pics on what happens to a 767 when it hits a hard structure at 400knots?..none o.k...

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At that frame you should notice how the “right-wing” has completely disappeared into the building, (ghost like), & there is nothing, not even a shadow of a “ghost” on that outside wall.
You are viewing an enlarged, poor quality Flash Animation. Taken originally on a basic hand held cam corder.

The object and the various "bits" of that object once it impacts, are moving at approximately 400knots. The camera is recording at 24 frames a second and is missing HEAPS of stuff.

Again...the wings ESPECIALLY, are thin and ONLY strong in the 'lateral' plane...in other words they 'bend' incredibly up and down with great strength but 'shatter' into confetti when impacted as they were.

As a little thought experiment picture the 767 sitting on the gound. Now "fire" an outside beam of the WTC at the 'outer' wing at 400knots...it would, and did, slice through it like butter. Effortlessly.

Have a look at these beams from these three different views...they ar'nt matchsticks and are solid steel.





The pod people et.al say it was ALL a holographic image and explosives inside the building...have a gander at the bent INWARDS steel beams. Must I continue? The Pod people are...tossers. Sorry. I mean no insult to you.

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Remember also that even though you keep saying you saw it w/ your own eyes, the premise of this ”theory” is the fact that these ”frames were previously edited” & perhaps ”pre-mixed” w/ a footing of the building by some video technician, & then later broadcast on that day (911). So, what we saw “could have been completely fabricated, in a studio-lab, way in advance”.
Actually my comment was actually more tounge in cheek. In the end thats all we have...the footage, and they could quite frankly do anything they like with it.

I just choose to go with the most reasonable explanation available to us at the time.

It's like the moon landing. I will not skip a beat if it turns out to be faked. But i think...on balance...the evidence is weak and has been thouroughly discredited in most quaters...except the news footage of them at the news conference where they all have expressions worthy of a condemned man on their faces.

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...how after the entire plane disappears into the building, at that very moment, there is nothing but shadows & a couple of puffs of smoke…”
Again...it may seem like a long time but it's 24 frames per second converted to 6 frames per second slow mo in a flash format...we are talking split seconds here. The WTC is BIG...it could hold the entire contents easily for that split second before it billows out...remember...this IS importent and has not been amplified enough...jet fuel is just very pure kerosine. The same you put in a kerosine heater but highly refined so to be spotlessly clean.

You can throw a match in jet fuel and it will simply go out as if you put it in water.

A jet engine works by "compressing" fuel and air at enormouse pressures and then "igniting" it...like one great big turbo/supercharger...if you put a highly volitile fuel in their it will pre-ignite and blow the engine up. I'd walk through a pool of Kerosine smoking a pipe for a thousand bucks! Well, maybe not, but i'd do it if my life depended on it quite sure of my safety...no need to tempt fate.

The flash at the nose of the aircraft is either the aircraft skin 'scraping' between two steel beams. Remember, two metal objects are impacting at 400knots. Thats almost the speed of a handgun round.

It may also be simply some part of the electronic avionics going off...it could be a million and one things but people keep insisting..."look, look pods and missiles"...fuck! Ridiculous. Honestly...ridiculous...based on the evidence offered.

As a side note...note the two pics here of the Pentagon impact...see the difference re: white hot flash of high explosive followed by left over fuel ignition. Compare it to pics of the WTC where there was NO explosive...High explosives generate intense heat (thousands of degrees) and pressure for a split second.



Heres a pic comparing a ALCM to a 767...how hard would it be to do one up a little ala: Northwoods document? Combined with high speed and low altitude? Who could tell and you might just survive it going over your head.



I dont want to suggest i'm %100 right but i have to confess the arguments for alot of this stuff is easily explained by a more 'reasonable' explanation.

However! I am only after the truth so please keep posting...i'm sure we can both learn something. In the end we can agree to disagree or agree.

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Old 05-15-2005, 12:48 AM
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G'Day PHI,

Thats an interesting name...where does it come from?
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Old 05-15-2005, 08:52 AM
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Commentary By Retired US Army Colonel Donn de Grand Pré – :-o :-o :-o

The Enemy Is Inside The Gates - Seeking Ultimate Destruction Of All National Sovereignty & Establishment Of A Global Government
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/engt.htm
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Old 05-15-2005, 09:47 AM
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Can We Save America ? :-o :-o :-o

America Can Be Saved – by Ted Lang – a political analyst and freelance writer.
http://www.rense.com/general65/saved.htm

An Act Of War – 911 – by Ted Lang
http://www.rense.com/general65/act.htm
http://www.etherzone.com/2005/lang051205.shtml

Pop Goes The Bush Mythology Bubble – P1: The 911 Commission – By Karl W. B. Schwarz
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/120404Schwarz/120404schwarz.html

Pop Goes The Bush Mythology Bubble – P2: 911 Commission & Bridas – By Karl W. B. Schwarz
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/121004Schwarz/121004schwarz.html

Pop Goes The Bush Mythology Bubble – P3: 911 Served A Multitude Of Purposes – By Karl W. B. Schwarz
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/121704Schwarz/121704schwarz.html

Pop Goes The Bush Mythology Bubble – P4: More Reasons To Keep From A Real 911 Investigation – By Karl W. B. Schwarz
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/011405Schwarz/011405schwarz.html

Pop Goes The Bush Mythology Bubble – P5: More 911 Discrepancies – By Karl W. B. Schwarz
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/020205Schwarz/020205schwarz.html

Pop Goes The Bush Mythology Bubble – P6: Led By Clowns, Liars, & Frauds – By Karl W. B. Schwarz
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/021205Schwarz/021205schwarz.html

"One-Way Ticket To Crawford, Texas" - by Karl W. B. Schwarz - Oil, The Dollar, & Current Wars - Power Point Presentation -- Must Read !!!
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Btw...just to put it down...the Pentagon fuel explosion does seem a little large for the left over fuel of a ALCM.

Hmmm...the truth....ever elusive.
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Illuminati “New World Order" Card Game ??? :-o :-o :-o


NWO Game – Power Card

Proof Of Illuminati 911 Attack Plan Depicted In A 1995 Card Game – "Illuminati New World Order" Game – Must Read !!!
“How did he know also the correct plan in the near future? Why do his cards predict the appearance of Antichrist and the Rapture as the last two events of the Illuminati Plan?”
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm


NWO Game – Card #6

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Star Wars Trilogy ??? :-o :-o :-o

'Star Wars' Raises Questions On US Policy - The Parallels Between Vietnam & Iraq Are Unbelievable
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=493&ncid=762&e=1&u=/ap/20050515/ap_en_mo/cannes_star_wars

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