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Old 01-02-2010, 07:39 AM
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Default Re: IT'S CALLED TORTURE and NOT INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES!


Sadly, that does seem to be the case. History is rife with nasty things happening.

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Old 01-02-2010, 08:51 AM
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are you referring to my message? Because I stated ALMOST all people are willing to do everything when they are told that way.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:40 PM
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Yes, even in the Milgram Experiment the percentage wasnt 100%.
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Old 01-03-2010, 04:52 AM
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Default Re: IT'S CALLED TORTURE and NOT INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES!

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Your statement that almost ALL people are capable of torturing another would STILL be wrong because almost ALL people are not capable of torturing another.

It takes a certain breed and this is the breed the that CIA employs.
I think you misunderstand me, Only under pressure from a authority most people are willing to torture, because they think it is right.

["P]eople have learned that when experts tell them something is all right, it probably is, even if it does not seem so. (In fact, it is worth noting that in this case the experimenter was indeed correct: it was all right to continue giving the 'shocks' - even though most of the subjects did not suspect the reason.)"[14] (excerpt from Wikipedia)

If you ask it out of the blue only the sickos that the CIA employs would do it.

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Old 01-04-2010, 04:34 AM
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Most people aren't placed under pressure from authority to torture and, even if they were, I highly doubt they would be convinced that it was right.

I dont mean right as in morally right, I mean right as in the better choice at the moment. ( sorry, English is not my native)

The CIA is the entity who employs people to torture other people for them and they employ people who are "sadistic" by nature. Period. These are the types of people they look for. These people don't have to be placed under pressure or convinced that it is right. They do it because it is in their nature.

I dont know if this people are sadistic by nature, more like blinded by ambition and 'love for the country'. I seen it happen to friends of me who enlisted in the army. They were full of joy, and after the training they were emotionless. The whole program is much like MKultra (be it in a far less cruel state), it still a kind of brainwashing.

I was tortured when a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch and those who tortured me had no regard for my life. They didn't have to be coerced by authority. Torturer's are "sadistic pigs" who delight in making and watching others suffer. It is in their nature. It is a part of their psychological
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Have you read Svali's article about MKultra and Project Monarch, She was just as ruthless as those CIA-torturers. And only now sees what was wrong with it.

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