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Old 06-07-2005, 06:59 PM
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peace,

I just called for some transparency and here i get these negative responses again! did you really understand what i wanted to say?

Did i ask you to TRUST the people or God ? God has given us the brains to sort out the wicked from the good, why not use this faculty?

A nickname is based on the assumption that ALL people are wicked untill proven otherwise, it's like when the corrupt governments arrest ALL the demonstrators, for maybe they are ALL terrorists and this protective measure is necessary to extingusih the fire BEFORE it begins!

You put your trust in a door lock, a nickname, a security system, muscular body guards and the truth is wherever you are death will catch up with you, even if you are in formidable castles!

I didn't say that you should ignore the alarms God sends to you, use your brain to distinguish the wicked from the good and in the case of the web, this should be based on the other's response and words, but to condemn everybody that's a prejudgement that is unjustified.

By the way, today it is difficult to hide your identity on the internet, unless you keep changing your IP like the terrorists do! and also 'not to pass judgment' is Satan's idea, God is the ultimate judge but he gave us a message (scriptures) so that we can judge, or how are you gonna get married without judging your bride!


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[4:78] Wherever you are, death will catch up with you, even if you live in formidable castles. When something good happens to them, they say, "This is from GOD," and when something bad afflicts them, they blame you. Say, "Everything comes from GOD." Why do these people misunderstand almost everything?
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[4:79] Anything good that happens to you is from GOD, and anything bad that happens to you is from you. We have sent you as a messenger to the people,* and GOD suffices as witness.

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[3:173] When the people say to them, "People have mobilized against you; you should fear them," this only strengthens their faith, and they say, "GOD suffices us; He is the best Protector."


Ahmad,

Have you ever heard the saying that "religion and politics don't mix?"

If not, now you have.

You are the perfect example of why religion should be separated from church and state as per our founding fathers.

Our President ought to keep his "private" conversations with GOD to himself.

Death is going to find all of us one way or another, but until that time, I'll continue to remain anonymous and protect myself as I see fit whether on the net or in the REAL world.

A nickname is not based on the assumption that ALL people are EVIL. It is based on the assumption that SOME people are evil.


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Old 06-08-2005, 12:36 AM
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Have you ever heard the saying that "religion and politics don't mix?"

Yes i know this Satanic slogan, the problem with today's world is they follow Extremes of right and left, so either they make a secular government (left) or a fundamentalist one (right) and both extremes are from Satan.

The only solution God provides is a balanced middle government that doesn't forget God in its decisions and doesn't use religion to control the people. Somewhere inbetween monopoly Capitalism and Communism, where neither the individual nor the society become gods.

The secular groups call for keeping God in our personal lives, which actually means marginalizing the idea of God so that Satan can govern freely. This is like asking us to have a dual personality, one acting according to God's absolute values (in private!) and the other acting according to the society's codes (e.g: maximum profit) which is Satan's way to make us follow his code, his religion instead of God's.


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A nickname is not based on the assumption that ALL people are EVIL. It is based on the assumption that SOME people are evil.
If only SOME people are evil, should they make you disappear from the face of the earth! wouldn't that be a victory to THEM ? what about the other SOME that is not evil, why do you deprive them of knowing the real you?
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Old 06-08-2005, 04:35 PM
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Ahmad,

A "satanic" slogan!!

You are the perfect example of why religion and politics should not be intertwined.

In all conversations regarding world events, you continue to DRAG GOD AND SATAN INTO THE CONVERSATION.

I don't think they deserve that much attention regarding the current state of affairs in our nation and world.

Likewise, they most probably don't appreciate the fact that you can't separate them from current/world events.



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"If only SOME people are evil, should they make you disappear from the face of the earth! wouldn't that be a victory to THEM ? what about the other SOME that is not evil, why do you deprive them of knowing the real you?"


WTF? YOU THINK THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE CHOOSE TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS ON THE WEB THAT THEY HAVE DISAPPEARED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH???

Certainly, you must be referring to all the people who are missing and have disappeared from the face of the earth!! Those whose pictures are on the back of milk cartons and otherwise. They, on the otherhand do have names and are not anonymous!!

As you can see, we are all anonymous behind our computer screens speaking to each other from all corners of the earth. I could tell you my name was GOD and what would make you believe me because you trust everyone???

So, you consider that anyone who uses an anonymous name on the internet has disappeared from the face of the earth and THEY have won!?!

Won what??

The other some (who are not evil) are being deprived of not knowing the real who?

A person is not their name. So, if I told you my name was SATAN, would that mean you now know the real me even though what I write and everything else you don't know about me is what defines my character and not my name?

So, now Ahmad, you know the REAL ME!! and I'm still;

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Old 06-08-2005, 05:59 PM
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In all conversations regarding world events, you continue to DRAG GOD AND SATAN INTO THE CONVERSATION!!!

I don't think they deserve that much attention regarding the current state of affairs in our nation and world.
peace,

It's like you are saying there is no spiritual battle going on, when there is nothing actually but this spiritual battle between evil and good.

Do you believe in God BA ?
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Old 06-08-2005, 07:13 PM
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In all conversations regarding world events, you continue to DRAG GOD AND SATAN INTO THE CONVERSATION.

I don't think they deserve that much attention regarding the current state of affairs in our nation and world.
peace,

It's like you are saying there is no spiritual battle going on, when there is nothing actually but this spiritual battle between evil and good.

Do you believe in God BA ?
Evil and good does not involve a spiritual battle.

There are evil people in the White House and I don't give a DAMN whether they are spiritual, Christians, Satanists or not!! I don't care who or what causes anyone to be evil!! It is of no importance to me to distinguish why they behave or act as they do!! To blame GOD or SATAN for their motives is to alleviate them of responsibility for their own actions.

You are using GOD and SATAN as scapegoats.

GOD does not direct my ship. I do.

There are evil people who are atheists and good people who are atheists. There are evil people who are Christians and there are evil people who are not.

It doesn't matter your religion or what or whom you believe in.

There is good and evil in the world. PERIOD.

In Peace,
BlueAngel

P. S. As I said before, religion and politics are two separate matters. Therefore, I will not engage you in your effort to converse with me regarding my private spiritual and/or religious beliefs.

When the well-being of people all over the world is the issue, we all MUST put our religious beliefs aside and look at the greater cause for all of humanity.

Religion is used politically to divide.

Divide and conquer.

You are being distracted.

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Old 06-08-2005, 07:16 PM
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Fear or fantasy!?! was the original question.

The answer is neither.

Just the exercising of my freedoms of speech, thought and expression.

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Old 07-05-2005, 04:19 AM
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You are the perfect example of why religion should be separated from church and state as per our founding fathers!!
The "wall of seperation between Church & state" was taken from a personal letter from Jefferson to another person (don't remember the name offhand). This was never meant to be used as a doctrine for interpretation of The Constitution. The 1st amendmendment states in plain english that any idiot ought to be able to understand "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof". Why is it so difficult for people to understand this? All it says is that Congress shall make no law establishing a state religion, or prohibiting anyone from practicing whatever their religion is.
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Old 07-05-2005, 04:46 AM
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You are the perfect example of why religion should be separated from church and state as per our founding fathers!!
The "wall of seperation between Church & state" was taken from a personal letter from Jefferson to another person (don't remember the name offhand). This was never meant to be used as a doctrine for interpretation of The Constitution. The 1st amendmendment states in plain english that any idiot ought to be able to understand "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof". Why is it so difficult for people to understand this? All it says is that Congress shall make no law establishing a state religion, or prohibiting anyone from practicing whatever their religion is.


As I stated above, "you are the perfect example of WHY religion should be separated from church and state."

"WHY" is the operative word here.

It depends on one's interpretation of what the founding father's meant:

If the separation debate is about nothing else, it is about history, in particular, what the founders of America believed about the role of religion in public life. Separationists believe that the founders intended to separate church and state by depriving the state of its power to either aid or hinder religion. Accomodationists believe that the state retains that power (with certain limitations), and so is constitutionally able to advance religion as a moral good.

My opinion is that GOD and Politics are two separate issues and should remain that way.

But, hey, that's just my opinion.

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Old 07-05-2005, 07:50 AM
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peace,

I believe that separating the church (in its positive sense) from the state is a grave mistake, it's like living a dual life, schizofrenia.

But afterall, separation between state & people is the real issue here, in countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia there is a noticeable gap between the controlling regime and the controlled.

What i want to say is that the State & the people were ONE, and the people & THEIR church should be also ONE.

It is a satanic idea i believe to assign different aspects of life to institutions, because in this way the people lose control of parts of THEIR lives, they become dependant on these institutional parents to take care of them, perhaps they need their time for more important things than managing their lives!.

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Old 07-05-2005, 08:48 AM
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This is what I have to say, Ahmad and the example can be taken from this thread.

When ONE decides to discuss the role of religion inside of politics, and with there being so MANY different belief systems throughout our world then the focus shifts from what our politicians/leaders/we, as a people, should be confronting in order to achieve the best possible life for each individual here on Planet Earth regardless of whether or not you or I believe in a GOD.

Our discussion here on this thread has been "distracted" to whether or not I believe in a GOD and that, my friend, is not going to benefit those who are dying in Africa from AIDS and starvation, those who are losing their freedoms to the Nazi government here in America and are infecting the rest of the world with their Octopus tentacles.

The President of the United States of America waged a war "unjustly" in the name of money, power and greed for the elitist cult who control most of us and informed the American public that GOD told him what he should do! If that is the case, well, then, his GOD certainly erred and I would prefer that the next President leave GOD out of politics.

One should be able to worship as they so desire, but government should not play upon the people's fears or religious beliefs in order to win seats as elected officials, and, unfortunately, in America, they do.

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