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Old 07-18-2005, 10:17 AM
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If you knew my real thoughts on the International Jew I would get caste as an anti-semite and considered of limited informational value.

I pity ALL peoples in the region. It will end in tears.

Australia should ride out the worst case scenario fairly well.

That is my egocentrically spoken position.

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Old 07-18-2005, 10:43 AM
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The recent carrier sinking was to plan out the next batch of terrorist plots. CVN-74 is supposedly destined for sinking off the coast of Indonesia later this year. Saw is somewhere on the internet.
Tactical nukes? San Fernando valley, delivered by twelve small planes again later this year. My sources of course are completely incredible but then again given what has happened in the last four years I am not surprised.
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Old 07-18-2005, 08:06 PM
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Yes, a cornered snake is dangerous.

"They" cannot go back. They must go forward but to where?

They should have a good cry. A critical mass has been reached. "They" are finished.

"They" are a nutter hostage taker SURROUNDED on all sides by a grass roots community ripping their half assed covert op's to bits.

The fact that they are so "half assed" concerns me sometimes as I believe Bush and the Neocons are part of a far more sinister plan by the European socialist arm of the NWO.

Our nutter hostage takers are doomed. How many they take with them is the worry.

Perhaps it is inevitable that with the next great evoloution of human consciousness there will have to be suffering and calamity.

Keep your heads up and your bums down.

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Tactical nukes? San Fernando valley, delivered by twelve small planes again later this year. My sources of course are completely incredible but then again given what has happened in the last four years I am not surprised.
I have no special crystal ball. Anything is possible. However, I feel "Tactical Nukes" on U.S soil is a cover for a more far away plot.

Why a Carrier sunk of Indo? Is it for a dive wreck or something?
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Old 07-24-2005, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: "Stan Goff". Ex-Special Forces Writes On Possibility Of Bush Using Tactical Nukes

That is quite easily some of the biggest BS I have ever seen. Who the hell would take an unproven quote written by someone who probably isn't special force as fact? Even if he is how does that quilify him to have supreme knowledge on US political decisions?
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:50 AM
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That is quite easily some of the biggest BS I have ever seen. Who the hell would take an unproven quote written by someone who probably isn't special force as fact? Even if he is how does that quilify him to have supreme knowledge on US political decisions?
Great points.

So, whats your take on things?

You seem to have a good grasp on facts and figures so it would be great to hear your analysis of current events.

Cheers.

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Old 07-25-2005, 01:50 AM
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Who the hell would take an unproven quote written by someone who probably isn't special force as fact?
I see you are one of those "smash and grab" posters who tends not to read the original post.

I have been consitent over the last 2 years on my position with the draft, further U.S "invasions" and the options available to them...ie: tactical nukes.

By simply pointing people to Goffs article I am re-iterating the point that Tactical Nukes are their only options as they will lose aircraft even with a limited bombing campaign.

Is that clear?

Now, onto your analysis.

I look forward to it.

Also. Do you have information that Stan Goff was not a former Green Beret Master Sergent? Please pass me on the information you possess on this rather remarkable new revalation.

P.S...is this some sort of Freudian "Analysis Envy"?
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Old 07-25-2005, 05:28 AM
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My theory. If people talk about some conspiracy before it happpens maybe it won't. Increasing awareness and refusing to give the dark side energy, credibility,resources, time, effort or whatever I see as a good thing. No I'm no expert, just a grassroots peon stuck in some asshole's chess game.
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Old 07-25-2005, 09:40 AM
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TB..

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By simply pointing people to Goffs article I am re-iterating the point that Tactical Nukes are their only options as they will lose aircraft even with a limited bombing campaign.
m8..Nukes are NOT there ONLY option..

Bio..that would make more sence to me.

It could easily make the Sheep move more in the direction you want..Nukes on the other hand could/would create much uprising..

I still doubt the Nuke flag..However, Nukes will be used Near Isreal ( It is eluded in the Bible )

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Old 07-26-2005, 01:32 AM
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My theory. If people talk about some conspiracy before it happpens maybe it won't.
I agree MINUTEMAN.

The Internet is no longer a passive/objective observer of events. It is NOW an official player which is why they must take it down soon.

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No I'm no expert, just a grassroots peon stuck in some asshole's chess game.
Me too! If I sound cocky and arrogant it is because i want to encourage people to realise they can "think" for themselves and work it out based on the time they wish to put in trying to understand things.

These sub humans are men, and being a man myself, they are NO stranger to me.

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m8..Nukes are NOT there ONLY option..
DEFINATELY there ONLY option of any consequence in Iran. Will have both practical and more subtle psychological effects.

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Bio..that would make more sence to me.
Yes. In Asia however. It will be used in Asia particularly in China where the Elites there are having huge problems with their "surplus" populations.

There are rumours getting around of mass killings their. It would'nt surprise me. A second great purge of the population is to come.

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It could easily make the Sheep move more in the direction you want..Nukes on the other hand could/would create much uprising..
That is the plan.

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I still doubt the Nuke flag..However, Nukes will be used Near Isreal
Iran/Iraq not close enough for ya?
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Old 07-28-2005, 09:48 PM
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I agree with LaRouche. I dont see nukes as the last resort of a madman however.

They have planned this from the beginning...to put the U.S in an untenable situation and then use this position as an excuse to use nukes.

So what if they use nuks in Iran? So what? Big deal.

Pick your poisen? Economic sanctions, D.U, cluster bombs...Iraq sure looks like a nuke hit it.

The point of nukes is that they are the weapon that PROVES we need an invigorated and powerful U.N that can enforce it's will on the world.

The mushroom cloud will be shown live...the commentators will speak in hushed tones...everyone will gulp...

I will throw popcorn at the screen (not all of it, i like popcorn) and DEMAND my money back! "Fucking Hollywood scriptwriters!"

And if we STILL hold back from COMPLETELY submitting to them...well, there'll be a few more mushroom clouds around 2011-2012.

Addit: Britain has recently built 2 big aircraft carriers? What for?

Britain and France are CO-OPERATING on Carrier design? Real enemies eh?


[img align=left]http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/images/cvf-thales-pic1-s.jpg[/img]

[img align=right]http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/images/cvfl_tn-001-s.jpg[/img]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/cvf-design.htm

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LaRouche Warns:
Cheney's `Guns of August' Threaten the World


This release was issued on July 27 by the LaRouche PAC political action committee.


Lyndon LaRouche, on this Wednesday afternoon, issued an international alert, covering the period of August 2005, which is the likely timeframe for Vice President Dick Cheney, with the full collusion of the circles of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, to unleash the recently exposed plans to stage a preemptive tactical nuclear strike against Iran. The danger of such a mad, Hitler-in-the-bunker action from the Cheney circles would be even further heightened, were the United States Congress to stick with its present schedule, and go into recess on July 30 until September 4. With Congress out of Washington, the Cheney-led White House would almost certainly unleash a "Guns of August" attack on Iran.

LaRouche based this assessment on a series of factors, reported to him over the recent days, beginning with the qualified report, from a former U.S. intelligence official, published in the American Conservative magazine, that Dick Cheney ordered the Strategic Command (STRATCOM) to prepare contingency plans for a conventional and tactical nuclear strike against hundreds of targets in Iran, in the event of a "new 9/11-style attack" on the United States. As EIR reported several months ago, the Bush Administration, under CONPLAN 8022, had already placed the relevant "mini-nukes" under the control of theater military commanders, as part of a new Global Strike doctrine, a doctrine originally conceived when Dick Cheney was Secretary of Defense under George H.W. Bush in the early 1990s.

The recent bombings in London have provided Tony Blair with his own "Reichstag fire" incident, and the full resources of the British "liberal imperial" faction can now be expected to weigh in behind the brutish Cheney circles in Washington.

The most compelling evidence of this "Guns of August" plan, LaRouche emphasized in discussions with colleagues, is the pattern of eyewitness reports of Dick Cheney's state of mind. Cheney is living out an American version of "Hitler in the bunker," lashing out at Republican Senators who have dared to resist his mad tirades, accusing anyone who fails to follow his orders—including senior members of the United States Senate—of being "traitors" and worse.

And finally, LaRouche identified a series of reports from highly qualified Congressional, military, and intelligence community sources, who have confirmed the essential features of the original American Conservative account of Cheney's Strangelove schemes for a preemptive nuclear strike on Iran. These sources have emphasized that these Iran plans are not merely military contingency studies, but represent the policy intentions of Cheney.

http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2005/lar_pac/050727guns_august.html
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