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Old 02-14-2005, 04:55 AM
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Oh dear...yawn, yawn...

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Old 02-14-2005, 05:56 AM
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Hey true!

I STILL live under Communism. The system in the country I live in is totally organized and manned by Communists. It's a one-party system. Sure, they make it look like democracy but plenty of domestic documentaries have been made about how the system actually IS NOT a democracy.

The above situation concerns not only politics but culture as well. People with the "wrong attitude" just don't get a foot in.
About 80% of all media personalities like journalists, artists, entertainers, news anchors and TV presenters are Communists who got their jobs and positions during the 50's, 60's and 70's - the worst time for educated, intelligent, talented and knowledgable people. They were put in place to serve and protect the overtly Socialist/covertly Communist government. They infiltrated all institutions and strata of society with the use of Gramsci's strategies.

It turns out my parents defected from one Communist country to another...

Maybe you've read this little book but I'll post the link anyway and put it in the Book List section as well.

The Soviet Art of Brainwashing: A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook on Psychopolitics
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7006/psychopolitics.html

"PSYCHOPOLITICS - the art and
science of asserting and maintain-
ing dominion over the thoughts and
loyalties of individuals, officers,
bureaus, and masses, and the ef-
fecting of the conquest of enemy
nations through "mental healing.""
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Old 02-14-2005, 06:58 AM
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I'll have a look at it.

What a shame the only people who like Communism/Socialism are the ones who've never lived under it.

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Old 02-14-2005, 07:14 PM
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Hey, we're getting back on topic...

In case anyone's still reading I'll put my view forth.

First, Draken, I agree with your view as I see it of Communism. However it is REALLY hard to convince people about Communism. I think it's the label, and a series of assumptions. I happen to think that Communism is the 'invisible gorilla' in the living room that we should all be talking about. It certainly is worth exploring why people can't see the gorilla.

OzzieCynic wrote: “At the moment communism is simply not a serious threat!”

I used to think that way as well. I thought I was seeing behind the veil of a pro-war Western media (which I was). Now, I realize that just because Team A is demonstrably corrupt and ‘hates’ or in this case used to hate Team B – does not mean that Team B is not also a negative force.

It’s almost a fact of life that the unexpected dangers are the worst ones. I feel I was duped by Gorbachev. Both Communism and Capitalism serve the same master, if unwittingly. This article: http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html took a while to sink in for me, but it makes sense of all the anomalies that I’ve noted.

As for getting beyond left/right I think I have. Communism is a label, it really is “Military Dictatorship, with enforced Patriotism”. There’s other labels like Democracy, which doesn’t seem to actually exist anywhere although it’s deemed the best system. The "Communist" label is remarkably untalked about in any media. So much so that it is conspicuous by it's absence. A remarkable achievement I suggest, where both left and right wing folk have given Communism a free ride - no longer a threat. Phew! An achievement that likely could only be brought about behind the scenes (hence the title of this site)

As Henry’s current article touches on, banking has been a perennial enemy of freedom, and of life for centuries. The two C’isms are working together, whether as in the Cold War as enemies, or today as rivals and antagonists. They are working towards war and economic collapse.

The video, now a DVD at www.themoneymasters.com/ was the first bit of conspiracy theory I was exposed to several years ago. But it’s only about 5% theory, it’s basically suppressed history and quotations about the evils of banking. They drive home the point that neither Communist nor Capitalist “leaders” have a problem with the current financial system. But they should, because it is an impossible system to keep up with, without empire or constant productivity improvements. The conclusion is that all governments are in bankers’ hands.

TrueBeliever wrote: “I prefer to call it Socialism for the rich and Capitalism for the poor”

Yes and didn’t one of the Rockefellers call “Competition a Sin”?
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Old 02-15-2005, 04:05 AM
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Well, THANK YOU!

Your brief comment is spot on!

People don't realise Communism and all its doctrines and strategies have totally infiltrated the West, without them noticing. Christopher Story says in his book "The European Collective" that the reason for this blindness lies in the Western way of thinking - pragmatism. Basically, his opinion is that the pragmatic mind is shortsighted and can't see more than a few years ahead. It's not familiar with conspiracy as a means to an end. The Eastern, Mongol mind on the other hand, is totally familiar with longterm strategies and conspiracies. There's a reason why Easterners (and Jews) are the best chess players in the world. They don't have a problem with planning ahead - 20-30 years ahead. Also, they know full well that the best way to defeat your foe is to attack him with a weapon that doesn't LOOK like a weapon.

Now think about another factor Story brings up, which is "criminalism". Basically, the Communist leaders have polluted, terrorized and forced the people into a mentality of "you have to cheat to survive". They've grown accustomed to crime as the only way to survive in a corrupt system. Now, that Communism has "collapsed" the West is actively inviting the "former" Communist states to join the EU. The West is arrogant and believes they won the Cold War and that Communism is defeated.

They obviously have not read Sun Tzu's "The Art of War".

Never before have such mass immigration taken place from the "former" Eastern Bloc states. And since Communism is "no longer a threat" the guard is down and nobody is checking who's ACTUALLY getting into the country.

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Communism is a label, it really is “Military Dictatorship, with enforced Patriotism”. There’s other labels like Democracy, which doesn’t seem to actually exist anywhere although it’s deemed the best system. The "Communist" label is remarkably untalked about in any media. So much so that it is conspicuous by it's absence. A remarkable achievement I suggest, where both left and right wing folk have given Communism a free ride - no longer a threat. Phew! An achievement that likely could only be brought about behind the scenes (hence the title of this site)
If there ever was a utopia it's DEMOCRACY.

Nowhere in the world exists a democracy which is uncorrupted. Actually, democracy invites any conspirators to conspire unchecked, since it's they can claim it's their "human right" to work for "their cause". Lobbyists are nothing more than agents - PSYCHOPOLITICIANS - of this or that ideology, using the immense freedom (chaos, actually) of a democratic system to, totally unhindered, subvert it and ultimately bring it down.

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just because Team A is demonstrably corrupt and ‘hates’ or in this case used to hate Team B – does not mean that Team B is not also a negative force.
People often don't know in which pidgeonhole they should put me, because when I say I'm anti-Communist then they say "oh, you're a Nazi then?" No, I say, it's the same rubbish: totalitarian terrorist dictatorship. Only difference: Communism=International Socialism; Nazism=NATIONAL Socialism.
But chances are they haven't lived under either so they are not able to recognize it's characteristics. So really, most people don't know what they're talking about; I mean: if you were a Communist in Hungary in the 60's and if you didn't ask any questions you probably had a very good life that looked and felt like you had a choice of parties, opinions etc. You were allowed to travel abroad, got invited to party functions where you were treated to all kinds of luxuries. As far as you're concerned, any dissident is in the best case stupid not to want that life, or in the worst case a dangerous subversive threatening your comfortable lifestyle and the system that's providing that lifestyle.

I've run out of ammo (temporarily!;-)) so I'll stop.

Communism has overtly taken over almost half the world: Russia and China, and covertly even more: Africa. Almost all governments in Africa are Socialist or Communist. If not, then there is a guerrilla faction of Socialists or Communists fighting for supremacy.

How can people NOT see it?
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Old 02-15-2005, 01:20 PM
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“How can people NOT see it?”

We don’t want to see it. The Cold War was enough of a nightmare. To think that it never really ended but took a devious twist and we are now on the losing side is too much to consider. If we are left wing, we comfort ourselves in saying that it is the right wing war hawks in the US that are raising international tensions with pre-emptive wars and NATO expansion. Whatever is left wing militarism is justified self-defense. If we are right wing, we know that Reagan’s military build up “won the Cold War” and so we are reassured that we are on the right path. All the Commies need is a whiff of good old freedom to make a buck and they’ll never look back. Each side deluded into not seeing the reality.

We can't see that the US helps Communist nations whether through technology transfers, job losses to China, or good old military provocation. The US is playing the doofus bad guy.
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:05 AM
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Actually, I think people don't see it because the media is of course in the hands of the Communist "useful idiots". They took control via Gramsci tactics of subversion and they are spreading lies and disinfo, along with covering up facts like the governments of most states in Africa are Socialist/Communist.

If other people - people who realise the threat of Communism - would be in control of the media of course they would see to it that people didn't miss facts like that.

What surprises me is that just because they change a few public figures at the top suddenly Communism has collapsed?!? What about all the other I don't know how many MILLION party members of the second and third echelon who have been thoroghly brainwashed and groomed to take over when the present generation leaves?
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:10 AM
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Draken:
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Actually, I think people don't see it because the media is of course in the hands of the Communist "useful idiots". They took control via Gramsci tactics of subversion and they are spreading lies and disinfo, along with covering up facts like the governments of most states in Africa are Socialist/Communist.
I believe that many people in Eastern Europe still do somewhat live under communism!.It is possible.

However the reality in Anglo western nations is far different! As i repeatedly keep stating ultra capitalism is more of threat in countries like Australia. One hundred percent Privatisation of public utilities in Australia is about to be realised for the first time in our History.

In country like Australia which as always traditionally had a common good some say suedo socialist mixed capitalist economy in the past, that is huge leap into the unknown as is the FTA Free Trade Agreement with the U.S.
There is anything but communism happening in Australia.

However I dont doubt your reports from eastern europe what would i know about eastern europe. If communism is on the rise there that is very interesting.I have seen lots of Eastern europe and Russia also turning to Neo Nazism also.
I Believe even Russia has various Neo Nazi groups and even a chapter of the KKK. So i would say by the sounds of things the social and economic fabric are very messed up over there right now allround!.
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Old 02-17-2005, 06:52 AM
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Yeah, Ozziecynic, I do talk about Eastern Europe as in Hungary, Bulgaria, Czech Rep., Poland but also Sweden, Norway, England, Holland, France. All contries in Europe got Socialist governments after WW2 until the present day. Everytime anything NEAR Right Wing tries to gain momentum it's shouted down with "anti-Semites!", "Nazis!" etc. which is of course bollocks.
It's all the Left Wingers getting nervous their little Internationalism/Globalism scam is going down the drain.

I don't know Australia that well, but check out your central bank and their policies concerning the so-called Free Trade.
As far as I know Australia still sings the praise of "The Queen" which means you're nowhere near independence from "The Crown" - and I don't mean the British Royal House... :lol:

BTW... Don't think you're safe from Communism in Australia; remember, it's INTERNATIONAL. They mean to take over the world, which unfortunately incudes Australia. Europe's mistake was to believe the "collapse" of Communism and assume the threat to be neutralized. The illusion of safety was Europe's fall.
Remember Sun Tzu's "The Art of War".
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Old 02-17-2005, 07:07 AM
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Draken and this, life in canada is communistic and who would believe me? Only someone who had also lived under communism. All the signs are there and people think they are free!

You are canadian, now drink your Canadian beer! int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: int: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :-?

From cradle to grave

Found this response letter tidbit on Henry's site and really like it. Thought I'd share with my fellow conspiracy nutters.



"From cradle to grave, Henry!! That is their motto.
We are brainwashed from cradle to grave and,
therefore, our reality is what they have created for
us. ...
We have not been taught to "reserve judgment." We
have been conditioned to JUDGE!!

God does not approve."



Best to keep an open mind and reserve judgement - that does not mean ignore reality and the truth. Discernment is key!
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