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Old 02-17-2005, 08:19 AM
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That's right mary.

As far as I'm concerned every society that is occupied with overconsumption, work as definition of existence, hedonism, entertainment and at the same time lacks transcendent heroism, and any and all spiritual, religious and divine aspects and metaphysics is Communist.

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Old 02-17-2005, 09:55 AM
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Cynic, there is probably something to compare between Canada and Australia related to the privatization issue. It's probably worth talking about, however in one of your posts you seem to not care about 'Armageddon' since it's phrophesised which seems a little defeatist.

Every world ends at some point, it certainly did for WWII Germany, for Ceasars's Rome I guess, etc. In biblical times they only knew their world, and major battles spelled the end of their world, as they knew it. Battles were fought on the hill of Megiddo as I understand, and the end "was near" for the Roman empire or whatever take you want to have on that.

I'm familiar with the privatization issue in Canada, it certainly seems to be at cross purposes to Communism - on the surface. I suggest however that losing labels makes the discussion easier. In 1988 or thereabouts Canada signed the Canada/US Free Trade deal. It was a treaty that allowed either side to buy up assets regardless of nationality. It had no power to affect US law.

There were and continue to be more trade disputes after the deal was signed than before it. The US doesn't like to be outcompeted, and flaunts the spirit of the agreement. The US wanted the agreement so it had guaranteed access to the continent's dwindling energy resources. Canada signed it hoping to get protection from punitive US trade practices. As the US continues to out-subsidize it's agriculture, our farmers are retiring and giving up. The only Canadian sectors protected by the deal - dairy, beer, and film production, have survived so far.

I have wondered whether the push for privatization is a cyclical one, maybe government ownership will be the next craze to keep us distracted. There is a revolving door in the West between the halls of government and industry. Every time a deal is made between the two there is an opportunity to scam the public. Get the gov't to build the stadium or toll-road then sell (at reduced value) to a corporation (bank financed deal). Did the corporation go bankrupt, unable to pay it's taxes, creditors and employees? Oh well, I guess the gov't better step in and guarantee another loan. Or pick up the pieces.

The point is, corrupt government allows corrupt practices. And we like it that way apparently. Our whole financial system is corrupt, and you won't hear a Communist (or Capitalist) complain about that. Either they don't know, or more likely that's not part of their programming so it's not an issue.

I think when the labels are dropped it's easier to see parallels between corrupt power brokers, no matter their team colours. A decade ago a Canadian state/province elected it's most overtly socialist leader to date. He was a protegé of Maurice Strong, the millionaire who is assumed to be a UN communist, and probably is. Bob Rae was elected to bring in public car insurance because the public was tired of getting fleeced. Rae backed down when elected but kept secret his reservation - that under the FTA treaty his government could be sued for lost profits. Rae is a Rhodes scholar like Clinton, and I guess just about as useful. They play a part to bring about change, in a flavour that is acceptable in their region.

If we are approaching a world wide economic crisis, and wars to go along with it, the governments want to be able to step in afterwards to pick up the pieces as they did in 1945. Change is stressful, so they're always working towards that. In the meantime privatization allows for maximum fraud and loss of money. It's also a good way to get left wing activists excited, who will some day lobby for more government control.
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Old 02-17-2005, 10:32 AM
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Apparently, the grass is no greener, it's a cumminist world, by far and wide. It is only a different shade of shit brown.

"Welcome back Kotter" to the "Mash"ed up world of the 'shroom from the 70's. They keep us in the dark and feed us bullshit. I remember that t-shirt.

"The only Canadian sectors protected by the deal - dairy, beer, and film production, have survived so far." this

So sad and sooooooooooo truuuuuuuue!

The dairy feeds us our regular dose of poison and hormones - see notmilk.com

The beer keeps everyone drunk and stupid, slutting it up and fighting. Alcohol - the great social lubricant of fools.

And the film industry produces the propaganda to tell us why canada is such a great place.

Hongcouver is rated number 2 city in the world according to local 'news'. I stayed their for six weeks and can appreciate the humour of Hongcouver- are their any white Canadian folks out there left? It's like moving to Hong Kong, Triads and all. Many are oriental in their facial features and outward appearance.
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:39 PM
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Hongcouver? Wow! I bet they all speak French too! Wouldn't that be somethin'? 8-)
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:29 PM
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Most the white people have moved to the interior, away from the city center, just like Toronto I guess.

I remember helping some Japanese tourists once, and they asked me where they might find some more "Canadians"! :lol: 8-)
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Old 02-18-2005, 08:07 AM
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That's right mary.

As far as I'm concerned every society that is occupied with overconsumption, work as definition of existence, hedonism, entertainment and at the same time lacks transcendent heroism, and any and all spiritual, religious and divine aspects and metaphysics is Communist.
I thought of another aspect of Communism: the morbid fascination with biological, physical bodily functions manifesting of course in the obsession with sex and sports. Analogically, it connects to the Stalinist propaganda posters that depicted young, strong workers, out on the fields harvesting, or engaging in sports, all happily working together for "glory" and Stalin and Communism.

Everywhere in Western mass media sports features prominently along with sex. You can see all and any kind of sport, related statistics, commentaries, tournaments, events of any kind, Olympics, World Cups, European Cups, National etc.

Needless to say, the physical obsession with sports and sex as entertainment is everywhere in the West. I consider that fact to be another negative sign of Communism's infiltration of, and assault on our Western civilization.

If as much effort was invested in encouraging young people to use their mental, psychic and spiritual capacities as in physical capacities society would probably cease to stagnate, or at least would not stagnate at such an incredible speed.

But of course, the usurpers of power - who totally lack any sacred spiritual dimension - don't want us to develop our mental, psychic and spiritual capacities. That would mean that becoming REALLY free - SPIRITUALLY free - would be a very real possibility.

Another thought I had lately was that if Christianity as the latest Western religion really is misused by the elites since 2000 years to control the masses; and if Christianity's hold - and established religion's hold in general - on the masses is slipping, partly because of subversion by the Illuminati but partly because of more and more people waking up from the illusion; is not mysticism and esoterism really a revival of, or a falling back on more genuine, inner, truthful ways of following a certain religion?

Esoterism is after all the inner aspect of ANY religion. It exists in Christiality, as well as in Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism etc.

If the exoteric aspect of a religion is likened to a tree and its branches, the esoteric aspect would be the sap that vivifies the tree. The tree and its branches is any given religion's outer form and doctrine, and the sap that vivifies it and runs through every cell is the esoteric, inner aspect of its mystic doctrine.

If the assumption (that was made on another thread) - that the further back we go in history, the closer we get to the civilizations that understood the "Big Mystery" and The Truth; the Divine Immanent/Transcendent Reality of The Supreme Being - is correct, then why should we fear esoterism and mysticism?
Being from an age closer to The Truth and the peoples who understood it better than us, should we not try to understand the knowledge that's there instead of ignoring it out of fear of using "occult", evil forces?

I'm not saying 'yes' or 'no' to any of the questions asked above; I'm just asking if we really should be scared of "esoteric", "mystic" knowledge or if that's in fact what the NWO people WANT us to be?


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Old 02-18-2005, 11:37 AM
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Draken wrote: "should we not try to understand the knowledge that's there instead of ignoring it out of fear of using "occult", evil forces?"

that issue might apply to someone like Edgar Cayce. By all accounts he spent his life helping people, and on occasion warned about using occult powers. Since his remarkable story became known he is said to have spawned the new age movement, which perhaps was not his intent.
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Old 02-19-2005, 08:45 AM
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As far as I'm concerned every society that is occupied with overconsumption, work as definition of existence, hedonism, entertainment and at the same time lacks transcendent heroism, and any and all spiritual, religious and divine aspects and metaphysics is Communist.
What kind of society/system, would you have in mind to Draken to replace the status quo in your corner of the world. Are you for an extreme form of Liberalism if so i cant see how this will remedy anything. We already have that right here now in Australia and it is a nihilistic hedonist deadend like the one you claim to be against above!.

BTW Where are you located Draken?.Where is Hypoborea Carpathian
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Old 02-19-2005, 09:10 AM
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It's probably worth talking about, however in one of your posts you seem to not care about 'Armageddon' since it's phrophesised which seems a little defeatist.
Since the Fall in Eden and the temptation for forbidden knowledge.Humanity is imperfect there fore that is why the world is going to be destroyed. Not a matter of defeatism there is nothing to be perfected in the temporal dimension.We are simply imperfect and must be punshied for our lack of submission to God!.

As for the communism subject! Are you deluded! Sure there maybe an excuse for draken over there in hyperborea Carpathian for believing in such a thing still. But for you in canada which is much like Australia in terms of its economic system i find plain dumb to call Laissez faire capitalism or Corporatism under the name of communism unless ofcause like so many others your a reactionary redneck righwinger of the uneducated kind. In that case we arent really on the same side as many others here are also finding out slowly!.:roll:
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Old 02-19-2005, 09:38 AM
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Ozzie,

CANADA IS LAISSER-FAIRE - on this point we agree.

Canada is also communistic by nature and unless you have lived here and perhaps also in a different country so as you may have a reference to compare against, you really don't know.

Life experience is the ultimate school of hard knocks where truth is at its most absolute rawest form.

We have five different varieties of local police. There is the HRM police. The RCMP. The "Community" RCMP. The military police. The lake police and the list goes on and on. I can only speak to the city police and all the other police branches can fcuk with me. Doesn't that sound odd?

All mainstream radio stations are in the same building which is also the same building that houses the monopolised television stations that exist in canada, outside of CBC - government owned. Doesn't that paint a ludicrous picture you would expect to find in communist China and not capitalist Canada?

The rock station, the country station, the pop station, I can go on..., all in one building? Seeing and experiencing Canada is a truly communistic experience, Ozzie. I have no reason to lie regarding this issue, or anything I post, for that matter.

That's the problem, people in Canada think they are free and do not understand just how many of their rights, as a human being, have been stolen away from them by organized crime - federal, provincial, and municipal political corruption. It's who you know and who you blow, all the way here. Communism dictates that the few at the top feed their greed while the surfs get their fair and equal ration - my ass.

It's laisser-faire, like you say. We, the people, the canadian population, allow the Canadian government to commit their crimes through turning a blind eye.

In Canada, if you are a mason, your ass is covered. If not, the law is a law unto itself and the goal posts are constantly changing. The media is in bed with the government and the CRTC is the long arm of the poopaganda machine. Does that sound like a democratic system to you?
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