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Old 07-25-2005, 08:21 PM
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Memories! You dipstick!

Jessica Simpson is looking fine.
Hell, that's the only reason I'm gonna go see that film in theaters. I see the scene where she says, "I think somethin' bounced up into ma undacarriage" over and over again.:-P

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Old 07-25-2005, 08:49 PM
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HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...

after the last 2 weeks I NEED the "Dukes A Hazzard".

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Old 07-25-2005, 08:56 PM
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yeehaw! :-P
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: Thankyou Steven Spinberg - Another Hollywood Psy Op Masterpeice!

War Of The Worlds is such a specific piece of Propaganda that it deserves a little more attention.

I just watched it again.

At the expense of appearing like a "pick pocket" who only see's "pockets", it is FULL of subtle and overt propaganda which is designed to promote war and maintain the average Americans enthusiasm for conflict.

Spielberg is trying to get across to Americans that the current battle against terrorism, is EXACTLY like WW2. The Muslims are the new Nazi's. "Islamo-fascist's" to be exact. Americans must not wait like they did in the last war. The movie is basically "Saving Private Ryan" Vs "Schindlers List". It is a simplistic piece of propaganda designed to keep Americans enthusiastic for war.

Here is a more in depth analysis with pics...

Voice of Morgan Freeman:

"That our world was being watched by intelligences greater than our own. That as men busied themselves about their various concerns, they observed and studied. The way a man with a microscope might observe the creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency men went to and fro about the globe confident of our Empire over this world. Yet across the gulf of space, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic regarded our planet with envious eyes. And slowly and surely drew their plans against us."

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Old 07-26-2005, 08:38 PM
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I liked the TV series better. It had more plot dialogue.
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War Of The Worlds is such a specific piece of Propaganda that it deserves a little more attention.

I just watched it again.

At the expense of appearing like a "pick pocket" who only see's "pockets", it is FULL of subtle and overt propaganda which is designed to promote war and maintain the average Americans enthusiasm for conflict.

Spielberg is trying to get across to Americans that the current battle against terrorism, is EXACTLY like WW2. The Muslims are the new Nazi's. "Islamo-fascist's" to be exact. Americans must not wait like they did in the last war. The movie is basically "Saving Private Ryan" Vs "Schindlers List". It is a simplistic piece of propaganda designed to keep Americans enthusiastic for war.

Here is a more in depth analysis with pics...

Voice of Morgan Freeman:

"That our world was being watched by intelligences greater than our own. That as men busied themselves about their various concerns, they observed and studied. The way a man with a microscope might observe the creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency men went to and fro about the globe confident of our Empire over this world. Yet across the gulf of space, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic regarded our planet with envious eyes. And slowly and surely drew their plans against us."

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[The opening sequence depicts life in the West. Particularly American life. Note the tall building shot from above. That is meant to remind you of the WTC. The message is..."Muslims are coldly calculating ways to end this way of life as they view the West with envious eyes." And what’s more, due to the West’s complacency they seal their own doom as they are not taking the threat seriously. The last shot of the Paris landmark has some significance.

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The next shot is zooming into a crane on a dock. Note the skyline. The water and the skyscrapers. You are NOT to forget New York! Cruise is "working class". The ENTIRE cast is "working class". There is not a suit and tie to be seen in the ENTIRE movie! Who fights the wars? Yeh, now you're getting it. As a side note...the little girl has that gay symbol, the multi colored rainbow as her sweater. We also see "Sponge Bob and Square Pants"...gay icon cartoon. Hmmmm...I shan’t go to far with that one. A mere coincidence I'm sure. Cruise and his daughter have a meal. Cruise gets angry that the food tastes like crap. It is "Hummus"...a particular ARAB food. Again...think about these SPECIFIC little tit bits he whaks in. In the last photo we see Cruise and his daughter looking up at the lightening storm that is heralding the arrival of the Alien's. Cruise makes light of the situation and say's..."hey it's just like the 4th of July, oh say can you see..." At one stage they are watching the lightening. The girl is scared. Cruise tries to comfort her by saying..."it's all right, lightning never strikes in the same place twice..." next second, BANG, it does. Spielberg is just reminding you silly Yanks that you are required to NOT relax and remain suitably in fear!

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The storm has passed. Cruise goes to investigate where the lightening struck. A crowd has gathered. Lotsa cops talking about "subways" with suitable "New Yawk" accents. Just in case you have somehow missed where the movie is set.

The ground begins to crack. People panic. Lots of scenes reminiscent of 9-11. A huge crack runs up the side of a Church. A Christian one I believe. The building splits in two. The "alien" smashes up through the ground from under this Church which reminds you of the church where they took the Pastor when he died in Tower 1 when Tower 2 collapsed. He coulda picked alot of buildings for this. Think it wasn't deliberate? Yeh, now you're getting it! Also note the 2 "maltese" type cross's on the front of the church. This type of cross ALWAYS appeares at the end of a "Weinstein" production - "The MAtrix" etc...also note the "mandala" - "secret of the golden flower" - "all seeing eye" inbetween those Maltese cross's.

We see deliberate shots of people taking pictures and one guy with his handy cam is focused on as the alien cuts loose with it's "lasers" and zaps him leaving us to view it through his camera lens...

The usual chaos erupts and we see people running and looking over their shoulders just like we saw on 9-11 as the dust cloud chased them down the street.

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Cruise makes it home. He is in shock. He slumps on the floor. His daughter says..."dad, what's that on you?" He's covered in fine white dust! I hope all Americans understand how Spielberg is FUCKING with you, and the memory of the trauma of that day. He is dirt! Sheer dirt! Like any Zionist scum he uses others trauma for his own ends. Others “suffering”, as propaganda for a cause that is NOT theirs. Spielberg works for others.

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They have escaped to his ex-wife's pad. All of a sudden a huge explosion rocks the house. Cruise steps outside. A large passenger plane has come down. In the context of the movie one may wonder why this was put in? It doesn't flow from anything. It just "happens". But that's because this movie is not meant to "flow". It is meant to be one traumatic reminder after another of 9-11. Perhaps specifically the aircraft that "lost" it's tail over a New York suburb just after 9-11. There is NO other reason for this scene. It is just "dumped" in front of you out of no where and then goes nowhere. It's an add. One long series of "adds" designed to sell you something. That's what "propaganda" is.

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They’ve left Cruises ex-wife's pad. They are on the side of the road while the little girl takes a pee. The son see’s the soldiers and wants to go with them to fight! Cruise forbids him! His son taunts Cruise along the lines of he hasn't the guts to fight. “I have to go!” the young teenager cries! Cruise forbids him. This scene is about setting kids against there parents. This is pathetically sick of Spielberg as he is encouraging young adolescents to go and die. As Hitler used to say…”we shall not educate the older ones but we will concentrate on the young”.

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They are on a ferry and an “alien” rises from the water looking like a suitable “all seeing eye”. It tips over the ferry and we are greeted with scenes straight out of “Titanic”…Oh the humanity! They struggle ashore. Clothes flutter down like Autumn leaves from the aliens ripping up bodies. This is straight out of a Holocaust flick.

We see long columns of refugees. These scenes are designed to take you straight back to World War 2. The “flashes” of gunfire on the horizon. The “stutter” of machine guns in the distance.

A battle is brewing and army equipment and soldiers flood to the front line. You have to have approval for the script to get equipment like this lent to you. In fact they use the real 10th Army mountain division as extras. This whole movie was written for the U.S Army as a recruiting tool. In fact the whole movie was a Pentagon production…literally.

The battle begins and Cruises young son is trying to get to the battle. Cruise is trying to stop him. He struggles with his father and says…”Dad! I have to see this!” Cruise throws him to the ground. The son pleads to his Father…”dad, please…let me go…” He wanders off to join the fight. Spielberg wants young American boys to die in Iraq. Hope your happy giving this arsehole money to brainwash your kids to war.

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Tim Robbins plays a nutter “survivalist” type. Spielberg now has a go at the “right wing conspiracy” people and Patriot movements. They are trapped in a cellar together. An “alien” all seeing eye device looks down the cellar for them. In the end Robbins loses it and Cruise has to kill him as he is a nutter. Strange how the people actually fighting the “all seeing eye” are the ones cast as the ones who need killing. Hmmmm…

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The little girl loses it and Cruise runs after her and is stalked by an “alien”. We note the “all seeing eye” again. We see the little girl cornered and captured. We see her in Red. Spielberg uses this method in “Schindlers List” and carry’s the theme into this movie. Eventually Cruise frees her and they make their way back to a city. We see a “patriotic statue” in the background as Cruise realizes the “aliens” are dying for some reason.

Cruise asks for directions. The soldiers ALL have heavy “New Yawk” accents. Keeping the crowd moving along. Again…to keep the 9-11 theme popping along. A machine appears and the soldiers fight it, bringing it down. They move over to investigate the downed machine.

Much like a “tank hatch”, the machine opens up and blood gushes out. That’s what the aliens live on. We see a hand flop out. The alien has a head VERY much like a German soldiers helmet. In fact this ENTIRE scene reminded me of a “Saving Private Ryan” scene where they take out the Tiger tank and the tank commander struggles out.

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Cruise and his daughter make it back to his ex-wife's parents place. Mom & Pop are there…break out the “apple pie”! His daughter runs to her mother. We see her in red VERY clearly now. This is supposed to be some sought of redemptive moment for the girl in RED from “Schindlers List”. Almost like Spielberg is saying…”look, if you act NOW and kill all these Islamofasists, you will redeem the girl in the red coat from Schindlers List who you failed 60 years ago.” I kid you not! This is GOOD propaganda! Here too, we see the prodigal son return! Cruises son has returned VICTORIOUS from battle! They embrace. All is well.

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Finale! The Earth is in ruins. Just like a scene from Europe 1945. However, from the ashes a new hope arises…a small “bud” will grow again from the tree of life. The “voice over” of Morgan Freeman comes on again and explains that the aliens could not survive in OUR world and a “bug” that WE were immune too killed THEM. Considering the attention given to “bio-specific” weapons…this does not bode well for the Arabs. Perhaps I’m reaching?

Steven…"Leni" sends her regards!
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: "The Redemption Of The Girl In Red" - War Of Worlds Take 2!

This latest of Speilbergs does not bode well for the future.

The theme is one of mass destruction and then, like a phoenix, the return of civilization from the ashes.

We are being prepared for WW3 sometime around 2011-12.

Before then more chaos including tactical nukes on Iran before the end of the year.

Only if we let them.
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Default Re: "The Redemption Of The Girl In Red" - War Of Worlds Take 2!

Check this out!

At the intro to WOW Morgan Freeman speaks.

At this set of words...

"With infinite complacency men went to and fro about the globe confident of our Empire over this world."

This pic appears at this exact moment...out of the blue when you consider all of the previos scenes are of the U.S...



That is the "The Arc de Triomphe" is it not?

Looks like it, and it's out of place in the context of the previous scenes.

Whats the significance of this?

"Commissioned by Napoléon in 1806 to celebrate his victory at the battle of Austerlitz and the glory of French armies, the arch was not finished until 1836 by Louis-Phillipe and cost ten million francs. The construction was entrusted to Chalgrin, who built a model of the arch on the real site in 1810 for Napoléon's wedding to Marie-Louise, daughter of the Austrian ambassador. The Emperor did not pass through the completed, real version until his funeral procession in 1840. Forty-five years later Victor Hugo's wake took place under the arch. Today you can see the tomb of the Unknown Soldier, killed in the First World War, and his flame, lit as a memorial to all those killed in action. The Arch is a site both of memories and current events and celebrations. The lists of the dead will move you. The cars that drive around the monument will terrify you! Standing in a direct line between the Louvre and the Grande Arche de la Défense, the monument links the past with the present and offers amazing views. A truly impressive landmark, 50 metres high and 45 metres wide, Paris would not be Paris without it!"

Also this...

Arc de Triomphe de l'Etoile - 75008
The world's largest triumphal arch, 49.5 m (162 ft) in height, was conceived in 1806 by Napoleon I as a tribute to his Grande Armée and its 128 victorious battles. Designed by Jean François Thérèse Chalgrin (1739-1811), the Arc was completed in 1836 during the reign of Louis Philippe. Surmounting the hill of Chaillot at the center of a star-shaped configuration of 12 radiating avenues, it is the climax of a vista seen the length of the Champs Elysées from the smaller Arc de Triomphe du Carrousel. Since 1920 it has sheltered the tomb of France's Unknown Soldier.


Any suggestions on what level exactly Speilberg means this obvious little "inside joke"?

It means something and I am thinking along the lines of the Illuminati and the French revoloution.

Is it just a take on the "sacrifice of soldiers"?

Note the Sun setting through it's arch.

Hmmmmm...
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great post very analytical. yes spinberg is a bilderberger and probobly a top nwo propagandist.
I am sure his career has more to do with that than anything else. he is one of lord rothc jewboy
Got any good links on Spinberg and the Bilderbergers.

Spinberger is the man i love to hate.

I have had my "all seeing eye" on him ever since that crap Private Ryan.

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Wo!

I'm having one of those peak experiences!

Looking into Spielberg and Bilderbergers...

Find this little gem...

Well, folly seemed in abundant supply at the Clinton Oct. 29 state dinner for China's latest communist leader.

"I think it's important to open up the communications," said Harvey Weinstein, co-chairman of Miramax Films. He doesn't speak Chinese -- yet, WP reported. "But I'm willing to learn," he said with a quick laugh.

An invitation to this dinner was one of the hottest of the Clinton administration, and a place on the guest list of 234 was a genuine prize. To underscore the importance of Jiang's visit, the White House invited former president Jimmy Carter, former first lady Lady Bird Johnson and five secretaries of state:

Madeleine Albright and her predecessors - Henry Kissinger, George Shultz, James Baker and Alexander Haig. Congressional leaders included House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott and Sen. Jesse Helms, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee."

But the real power came from the business world, the WP reported, with no fewer than 30 presidents, chairmen or CEOs, including Michael Eisner of Disney, Steven Jobs of Apple Computer, James Wolfensohn of the World Bank and Steven Spielberg of DreamWorks.

"I'm not here as a businessman," said the overly modest Spielberg. "In a sense, I feel like I'm 'Forrest Gump' eavesdropping on a moment in history."

Spielberg feeling like a Forrest Gump? Oh, please... Not another case of the Hollywood self-infatuation spreading like a Hong Kong chicken flu? The closest "Spoofberg" got to the front lines of any war was in the Hollywood studios.

The guest list was also heavy with powerful media names:

Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr., publisher of the New York Times; Peter Kann, publisher of the Wall Street Journal; Katharine Graham, chairman of the executive committee of The Washington Post Co; Tom Johnson, president of CNN; CBS anchor Dan Rather; NBC anchor Tom Brokaw; and ABC correspondent Diane Sawyer.


http://www.truthinmedia.org/truthinmedia/Bulletins/tim98-1-5.html

How deep does the rabbit hole go indeed!!!!!!!

I mention Weinstein in the context of the Matrix films and the "Maltese Cross" he ALWAYS puts at the end of them...those cross's are also on the church building that the Alien wrecks!!!!

Bah!!!!

Starting to sound like one of those people in the funny house i used to look after. Too much coffee? Or not.
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Default Re: Thankyou Steven Spinberg - Another Hollywood Psy Op Masterpeice!

The Arc du Triomphe is a symbol of the French resistance to the actions of Bush & Co., in my opinion (the complacency in the narration).

The fact that Cruise kills the survivalist is obviously a reference to the Christians who want to challenge the All Seeing Eye. In the end, who saves everybody ? Mother Gaia !!! The little girl says in the beggining of the movie that her body will eventually expell the splinter that is stuck in her hand. Same thing happens in the end. This is the main theme of the movie. New Age to the core.
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