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Old 07-23-2005, 03:30 AM
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Default Who Is To Blame For Zimbabwe?


Is Mugabe To Take ALL The Blame For Zimbabwe?

Mugabe fought for his "freedom" and others in the Rhodesian war of independance. A very dirty little "punch up".

"Freedom Fighters" were known to do things like this to "free" the blacks from white oppression in Rhodesia.





The Christian Science Monitor reports things like "freedom fighters" making the wife of a man they had just cut the lips, nose and chin from...fry it and eat it.

Whites were suitably outraged and continued to respond to the gathering crisis by resorting to intensive meetings between each other to work out how to put the black, uneducated thugs back into line...



Rhodesia was regarded as a limited success story. The white man ruled...the blacks knew their place and were even allowed a sustainable standard of living serving tea to their white masters at the local links.

They should have been grateful but instead got some silly idea into their heads that they may want to share in the countries wealth? Wah?

Soviet/socialist invective and support did not help calm things down. The flag waving ensured a "dirty little punch up".

In one of the few miracles in the region, blacks got to run their own country in a roundabout way...the white man generally controlled the finance and commerce...white farmers continued to produce food and commodities to bring money into the country and maintain a reasonable standard of living for all...i said "reasonable".

"Veterans" of the Rhodesian insurgency wanted a little reward for their efforts. Some land perhaps?

Zimbabwe and the U.K began to talk about moneys as a type of compensation and to give the peasants a bit of dirt to work on.

The U.K arm of the deal responded for 10 years by doing this...



Mugabe became pissed off...we saw some of the results...the decent white men decided to off Mugabe twice but failed. Predictably, Mugabe got pissed off...as you do.

He has since been petulently making life miserable for his own people.

White people are suitably outraged.

U.K Elites...quietly wash their hands Pontius Pilot style...before heading out to do this...



Suitably outraged that those black, "stupid" and "aggressive" natives need a sound thrashing back into line...which annoys them as it puts them off their swing and their handicaps go up.

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Old 07-24-2005, 08:21 PM
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Who is to blame for Zimbabwe?

Dont believe ALL that you read in the papers.

I thought we were a little smarter than that.
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Old 07-24-2005, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: Who Is To Blame For Zimbabwe?

Ask any black Zimbabwean over 40 they will all say life was better under Ian Smith.
You also forget the suffering of the whites. We lost our homeland and became refugee in our own houses. Ian Smith tryed for peace with ZANU and ZAPU at every opportunity.

Mugabe has always been like this it just took 20 years a million dead for you to figure it out!
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Old 07-25-2005, 01:31 AM
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Ask any black Zimbabwean over 40 they will all say life was better under Ian Smith.
Ask any slave and it was always better when one did'nt have to think or fight for ones self.

The situation in Africa was MORALLY and ETHICALLY intolerable.

That what was intolerable then sank into something worse...it seems the order of the day. Just ask the French in the 1800's or the Russians more recently.

The point of my post is that the recieved wisdom of the day is that Mugabe is a whacko dictator. He is! But how did it get to that? Was this ALL Mugabe? What of the white mans responsability in all this!

It is like attacking Hitler. It is easy to do but by simply slagging him off you never understand the behind the scenes dynamics that made Rhodesia move from "happy family" (as long as da niggaz new dere place) to current disaster.

I would have thought the point of my post was PERFECTLY clear. You would note the pics of what the "freedom fighters" brought to Rhodesia. As I said...a dirty little war.

I understand if you have lost everything. West Oz is FULL of South Africans etc...i went out with the daughter of a man who fought with Ian Smith during the Bush War.

Now there is chaos where there was once order. And how did this come to be?

We saw Margaret Thatchers son caught with a plane load of arms...what is going on?

Look deeper.

I'm sorry if you have lost everything. Now I guess you know what it was like for the black man? To feel a second class citizen in their own country. How must that feel?

Africa needed to be rectified. That the soloution has proven (S.A & Rhodesia) worse than the status quo needs to be understood.

There is NO reason why that the transition could not have been smooth enough to avoid all this.

Read the think tank documents and NSA discussion papers from the late 40's and early 50's on the need to keep Africa destabilized and the resources in anglo/u.s hands.

Read up on Cecil Rhodes especially.

I know white people have lost everything including loved ones. We know this.

It will not help rectify the situation when there are powerful people who DO NOT want Africa to succeed.

Mugabe was baited. And like the predictable dog he is he bit back.

Now ordinary whites and blacks pay the price. As usual. Always the ordinary people suffer from the games of the rich and powerful.

Tell me you can at least get past the obvious and ask yourself why Africa has been a basket case for so long and do not try to say Blacks are incapable of running their own lives.

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Old 07-25-2005, 08:48 PM
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NOHOPE

Who is to blame for Zimbabwe?

Dont believe ALL that you read in the papers.

I thought we were a little smarter than that.
point taken, thanx for correcting me. :-P I never really did read into that situation too much.
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