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Old 08-21-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: If Peak Oil is a myth, why is the US even dealing with the Saudis?


Eisenhower is said to have said..."the Middle East is the greatest economic prize of the war".

M.E oil is EXTREMELY easy to get...it bursts from the ground in 40ft columns...how hard do you think it is to extract it? It is currently $1.20 per barrel to produce Saudi Oil...$60+ to buy...who needs drugs with this profit margin.

Also, the high oil price has more to do with WILD speculation by Oil brokers than ANY sort of supply problems be they litteral oil production or refining capacity. Every time Ruppert opens his gob and sprouts on..."oil will be $100 per barrel before the end of the year"...the collective orgasmic gasp from "hoarders" speculating on said price is quite audible. Ruppert certainly has ALOT of supporters...some VERY qualified...and...ALL oil industry people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gee, cant think why that would be. The oil industry puts up whole page adds saying they are concerned about "oil supply" in the future and people say..."see! See! It is true. Even the oil industry admits it!" Admits what? That they will be making HUGE profits by talking up scarcity? Well...duh! People are fucking stupid to belive this shit.

In the end...sitting on oil reserves is more about CONTROL than profits. Currently I am in COMPLETE agreement with Dave McGowan who writes extensively on this subject and I urge you to read ALL his writings...

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr64.html

At the pure "profit level" of explanation...hoarding your own reserves close to you while exausting others makes perfect sense. But beyond this is a far more complex and multi layered explanation.

NOMAD is right when he points out that Sudi Princes are in fact "Jewish" (hard to believe I know but look it up) and were the COMPLETE and UTTER creation of the British after they kicked the Turks out in WW1.

Oil is a major currency stabiliser and open cheque book for the U.S. With huge profits, the Saudis invest it where? Wall Street. When you exchange the most common good in U.S dollars you enable massive monetary expansion without inflation...virtually a open cheque book...until people decide to trade in another currency...perhaps Saddams biggest mistake.

Oil shortages is just ONE of the methods that will be used to cower the peasants of the world into submission. Iraq is about CUTTING OFF oil supply rather than increasing it.

It is VITAL that the U.N have the moral high ground when the coming economic collapse comes and being able to blame oil supply problems, war and chaos caused by Bush and global warming etc... the U.N will be more able to exert influence on the local peasants to look towards centralised world government as their only saviour.

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Old 08-21-2005, 09:29 PM
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Okay, now please expand on "those uneduated JEWISH bedouins."
The RAND corporation still handles the bodygaurd training for the Saudi Royal family. Should anyone step out of line they will wake up in the am with a heart atack or perhaps die of thirst in the desert like one recalcitrent Prince.

The Saudi's do as they're told. They have NO influence over their own oil. They know what happens to recalcitrent natives...just ask Saddam.
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Old 08-22-2005, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: If Peak Oil is a myth, why is the US even dealing with the Saudis?

I see it exactly the same way, Truebeliever.
Shame about Michael Ruppert. Until his whoring with the energy companies re the Peak Oil Scam, he was one of the more respected sources on 9/11 and the shadow government.
But then the best lies are always wrapped up snugly in many layers of truth.
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Old 08-27-2005, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: If Peak Oil is a myth, why is the US even dealing with the Saudis?

Because it's not a myth for the US. We have peak oil, they don't.
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Old 08-27-2005, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: If Peak Oil is a myth, why is the US even dealing with the Saudis?

Because it's not a myth for the US. We have peak oil, they don't.
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Old 08-27-2005, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: If Peak Oil is a myth, why is the US even dealing with the Saudis?

MARK...U.S oil fields are full. They were capped at 2/3 years ago.

Refineries have been shut down with NO explanation given.

Read the links I gave and it's quite clear.

You are the victim of PURE propaganda.
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Old 08-27-2005, 06:02 PM
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freeman wrote:
I see it exactly the same way, Truebeliever.
Shame about Michael Ruppert. Until his whoring with the energy companies re the Peak Oil Scam, he was one of the more respected sources on 9/11 and the shadow government.
But then the best lies are always wrapped up snugly in many layers of truth.

I think you just spoke a "double negative!"

Shame about Michael Ruppert!!
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Old 08-27-2005, 07:34 PM
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MARK...U.S oil fields are full. They were capped at 2/3 years ago.
Yes, I have relatives in the wildcat oil business whose wells were all bought out from under them during the Carter admnistration through very "coercive" measures. All under the auspices of "energy conservation".
In short, no one knows how much oil still exists, but you have to look at this from the viewpoint of the ruling elites: If they can sell less oil and make as much or more profit while exerting the second prong of global control (their monopoly over money being the first), then why wouldn't you do it?
But as Truebeliever says, once again the bottom line is control, not profit. That is why this is a Satanic conspiracy, not a mere financial one, as Dr. Makow and many others who have investigated it have concluded.
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Old 08-27-2005, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: If Peak Oil is a myth, why is the US even dealing with the Saudis?

So they're cutting off the oil...that makes sense.
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Old 08-27-2005, 08:20 PM
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So they're cutting off the oil...that makes sense.
Yes, they already control the money supply.
Now if they can control the energy supply too and ration it out to the goy at the same pitiful level as they do money, their control is absolute -- or so they think.
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